James
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Jan 30, 2008 19:23:55 GMT -5
Post by James on Jan 30, 2008 19:23:55 GMT -5
Interesting, thanks Pig.
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Jan 30, 2008 20:56:14 GMT -5
Post by Speed Racer on Jan 30, 2008 20:56:14 GMT -5
do you play on any other websites besides pokerstars pig? jw because my friend who won 100k over december is trying to get me to play with online since we go to different schools I use to play my money games on Full Tilt and Bodog because those were the only places where I could deposit money due to restrictions to my bank. Bodog was nice but I have a Mac now and it isn't compatible with Mac's. Full Tilt is good too the problem with Full Tilt to PokerStars is that minimum deposit for PokerStars is $10 while FullTilt is $50. I was also recently temporarily banned from FullTilt as well so that throws in a wrench. I just started playing on Bodog recently. I like it. Easy depositing and it runs smooth for the most part.
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Jan 30, 2008 20:56:50 GMT -5
Post by Ebener 12 on Jan 30, 2008 20:56:50 GMT -5
I was thinking about putting money on Bodog just so I could bet on games and play poker at the same site, instead of different ones.
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Jan 30, 2008 20:58:00 GMT -5
Post by Speed Racer on Jan 30, 2008 20:58:00 GMT -5
I was thinking about putting money on Bodog just so I could bet on games and play poker at the same site, instead of different ones. Yeah, play introduced me to Bodog and I really like it. It's just pretty well run all around in my opinion. It makes flushing your money down the toilet nice and easy, haha.
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Jan 30, 2008 20:58:57 GMT -5
Post by Ebener 12 on Jan 30, 2008 20:58:57 GMT -5
Yeah he told me to talk to him about it before I sign up. I need to get on that soon.
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Jan 30, 2008 23:02:38 GMT -5
Post by Spencer on Jan 30, 2008 23:02:38 GMT -5
Spence, I'm sorry this didn't work out for you, because we know you really wanted him in the league from a GM talent standpoint. But the truth is, he was someone who many of us targeted as a reason for the re-start being a failure (at the time of our talks). I felt like his attitude and the way he presented issues completely undermined you at times, and it was infuriating to listen to. If he had a problem with something, rather than take it in stride, he'd reference what he would do in the NBN, how he likes to run things, etc etc. At times - especially in the beginning - it felt like you kind of gave into him (which was annoying), but that definitely wore off as the weeks went by. You giving in might not have been nearly as prominent as I thought it was during the re-start, but I was frustrated by some things both BBS-wise and personal-wise at the time. He had a little following in BBS from the GMs who were/are in the league, which was obvious. But, if anything shows that his behavior yesterday was a joke, it's the fact the people who think of him so highly didn't come to his rescue, at least not in the capacity that we came to yours. He thought he was better than you, and he thought his league was better than yours. To be fair, you contributed to that by asking him to join so many times. But, a less self-loving person would have taken your invitation for what it was - to try and get the best GM talent in the league - and not for another ego stroke. In the end, it's a sim league. I hate when people say things like "we're all nerds.. we're in sim leagues" because it is a stupid generalization, I'm very cool, but he took way too much pride and arrogance on the topic. Had he quit AFTER a thread like this, that would have made some sense. But, what did he quit for? Because he wasn't enjoying the league? Because he couldn't handle Martinez? That is completely pathetic. There was no incident whatsoever to provoke him to quit, other than him losing in the first round of the playoffs and apparently not recovering. He came in here with guns out, making posts about how people want him to fail, when in reality no one really gave a shit. If he had gotten off of his high horse he'd have seen that no one gives a shit in our league about that kind of stuff, especially when CJ of all people beats you. He was making tons of posts in preparation for winning a title (all with the same message of "not everyone can win with just Shaq.. and look, I have other good players too!") and then it didn't happen. So really, what did he prove here? What everyone was saying prior to him joining. Yes, he had the best record in the league. He had Shaq. That'll do it. He lost in the first round, and then quit ten games into the next season. He was a complete bitch throughout the entire time he was here as he complained about everything, and most importantly he was just horribly unfunny. Nova told me his wit isn't as bad as he showed on this thread yesterday but wow, his lines were pathetic. Is BBS better than NBN? Who really cares. I love our league, and if that prick runs NBN, then that says a lot. No matter what his NBN GMs in BBS want to say, they cannot deny that he was completely unprofessional, immature, and unfunny yesterday. I'm happy the little experiment is over and we can go back to normal. Oh, and does he respond to this? For someone who isn't in the league, he has difficulty not checking our unactive board. Ive always tried to respect the fact that many people love NBN, I didnt love it though. I was in it at perhaps its lowest point, but at the very least I could respect how much the long time NBN Gms loved it. Im still pretty pissed at how disrespectful Will was not only to the league, but to me. I had asked Will to join many times, but Ive asked many people to join many times. I mean every time we have an opening, I ask the same guys that havent been in BBS before. SO it wasnt as if he was the only guy I wanted in BBS. I wanted Tiger and Aar too, and I want A2J as well. I mean they are just good guys, who have good personalities and are good GMs. I still think Will is a good guy, I just think he got angry, and he's a proud guy. He didnt like how he was being treated and he lashed out. I think he couldve dealt with it better, especially considering "his league" uses my server, but hey, whatever. Im happy we've moved passed it, and Im sorry if any long time BBS GMs feel as though Ive treated them unfairly, or done something wrong. I really just wanted to try and make this league better. I wanted the most active, best Gms around.
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Jan 31, 2008 1:42:52 GMT -5
Post by Sheryl Yoast on Jan 31, 2008 1:42:52 GMT -5
I use to play my money games on Full Tilt and Bodog because those were the only places where I could deposit money due to restrictions to my bank. Bodog was nice but I have a Mac now and it isn't compatible with Mac's. Full Tilt is good too the problem with Full Tilt to PokerStars is that minimum deposit for PokerStars is $10 while FullTilt is $50. I was also recently temporarily banned from FullTilt as well so that throws in a wrench. I just started playing on Bodog recently. I like it. Easy depositing and it runs smooth for the most part. Easiest depositing on the internet IMO. I wish they made the cards a little bigger though.
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Dave
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Jan 31, 2008 1:52:21 GMT -5
Post by Dave on Jan 31, 2008 1:52:21 GMT -5
you didn't do anything wrong spence and I like a lot of the new GMs....I wish aar would be more active than he has been but I know he is a good GM from a few PMs we've exchanged. I think what you did with the restart was great and you've done a great deal to stay loyal but flush out the weak. I think it was hilarious that Will tried to take credit for our rules when we've implemented so many original rules over the years to make BBS very competitive while trying to keep parity. The rules have become so awesome thanks to all the great GMs who find the loopholes and exploit them and for you being a stingy bastard and stopping them. I don't know too many sims where people make it a point to be on the computer at 12 noon everyday in anticipation for a sim or when you miss a day you could potentially miss a round of playoffs.
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James
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Jan 31, 2008 4:00:09 GMT -5
Post by James on Jan 31, 2008 4:00:09 GMT -5
^^
You mean the Krup Rule (loop-hole rule).
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Outlawz
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Going back to basics
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Feb 4, 2008 23:27:56 GMT -5
Post by Outlawz on Feb 4, 2008 23:27:56 GMT -5
Wow.. I had been meaning to read this since i saw the thread but i did not expect to read some things said in this thread. Will has always been an egotistical praise me like a sim god kind of guy. One of the reasons i left was because Spence is just so much better as a commish and very unbiased and fair. But Will wants to take shots at the league and Spence? Why cus he couldnt take a challenge? Hey, guess what asshole guys in nbn or other leagues are the same way with new guys. It's just how it is. The only way to stop it is to put up or shut up. I still dont like half of these mofos but i love it because it just makes winning that much sweeter. Will is a very good gm and i will not that take away from him. But he's only built dynasties nbn that im aware of. Either purposely or not he definitely has used the making of draft files to his advantage. He knows who to trade for. The year in which he traded with andy to get clayton after the fact he said that one of either wallace or clayton could be possible busts was bs. Trading for Pinson when he was a defensive beast. I personally think too many people suck his nuts and dont step out the box to view cleary how much of an ego ridden guy he is. Say something wrong and u might get banned and fired. You want to talk about legacy? No doubt nbn AT ONE POINT was probably the most competitive and well run league out there. But the gm level has gone down and that was another reason i left. I love nbn its where i started and where i grew to love sims so not bashing it but merely stating facts that pertain to Mr high and mighty. But the legacy of nbn had been tarnished for a while now. Ginn and Lax quit because they thought will was cheating. Half the league saw insane blatantly cheat, A2J was suspected of the same thing when all his warriors players blew up, and scott simmed ahead. I'll take spence and his untarnished record over a legacy of cheating commishes. Thankfully play is running things so thats good for the league but dont bash bbs for the hell of it. You want to talk about rules? In what league do people get fired for not putting up wins? You did not come up with anything revolutionary so shut the fuck up. As far as gm's go i think its equal in terms of talented gm's. Draft files? Spences draft files are fun so i never had a problem with them. There are busts and surprises here and there but guess what? He wouldnt use that to his advantage thats for sure. Like i said nothing against nbn or the gm's. It's mainly directed at Will.
This is for the bbs guys.
Bbs is definitely "cliquey" and ya need to admit to that. Too many people come off as knowing it all. I dont post or care to post as much because it's not worth it. If spence brings a new gm let em do what they gotta do then talk shit. This is still just for fun so fuck you all lol.
Ok, i wrote enough. I've never been shy about speaking my mind so it is what it is. Just felt i had to say something after will came out talking crap about spence. Just totally uncalled for.
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Feb 4, 2008 23:30:39 GMT -5
Post by Spencer on Feb 4, 2008 23:30:39 GMT -5
Thanks. I think Ive heard from multiple guys that know Will from NBN, that what he did was uncalled for. Its nice to hear.
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Feb 4, 2008 23:36:13 GMT -5
Post by Rocky on Feb 4, 2008 23:36:13 GMT -5
I'm so happy he's gone.
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Dave
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Feb 4, 2008 23:47:51 GMT -5
Post by Dave on Feb 4, 2008 23:47:51 GMT -5
First round exit
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Feb 4, 2008 23:53:42 GMT -5
Post by DB on Feb 4, 2008 23:53:42 GMT -5
party people
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Feb 4, 2008 23:59:41 GMT -5
Post by cjmjones008 on Feb 4, 2008 23:59:41 GMT -5
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Post by nybombers3 on Feb 5, 2008 0:03:31 GMT -5
Post pad.
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Post by Sheryl Yoast on Feb 5, 2008 0:03:40 GMT -5
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Dave
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Post by Dave on Feb 5, 2008 0:07:49 GMT -5
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Post by superman2k9 on Feb 5, 2008 0:20:47 GMT -5
This league is CRAZY ACTIVE! 625 posts in a bad thread.
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Post by Rocky on Feb 5, 2008 0:55:57 GMT -5
Weird.
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Tigertecz
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Golden State Warriors
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Post by Tigertecz on Feb 5, 2008 5:28:30 GMT -5
SPALDING!
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Tigertecz
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Post by Tigertecz on Feb 5, 2008 5:29:28 GMT -5
No wait, WILSON!
Was his name Wilson or Spalding? Shit I can't remember. Fuck I can't even remember the name of the film now. That Tom Hanks one.
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James
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Post by James on Feb 5, 2008 7:03:58 GMT -5
Wilson you idiot.
Castaway.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Feb 5, 2008 7:17:58 GMT -5
my penis is surging
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Tigertecz
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Golden State Warriors
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Post by Tigertecz on Feb 5, 2008 8:47:36 GMT -5
Wilson you idiot. Castaway. I'm a basketball fan, Spalding's the first brand name that comes to mind for a ball! And yeah, Castaway, that's the shit. Boy was that a long movie to sit in a cinema for.
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