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Post by Apollo on Mar 14, 2009 15:25:33 GMT -5
Can this guy be any more of a baby-back bitch?
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Post by Apollo on Mar 14, 2009 15:26:44 GMT -5
Now he's put his house up for sale? What a freakin' baby.
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Post by Rocky on Mar 14, 2009 15:34:35 GMT -5
HAHAHA DID HE REALLY?
Wow, this guy is pathetic.
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Post by Apollo on Mar 14, 2009 15:37:16 GMT -5
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Post by DB on Mar 15, 2009 0:48:20 GMT -5
what a puss
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Post by Outlawz on Mar 15, 2009 20:26:29 GMT -5
LOL @ him putting his house up for sale.
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Post by dj on Mar 15, 2009 21:02:52 GMT -5
maybe he needs the cash
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Post by dj on Mar 15, 2009 22:47:23 GMT -5
Cutler Tells Team To Trade Him By Vic Lombardi CBS4 has learned that disgruntled Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler is no longer in Denver and is done negotiating with the team. Cutler will not be attending Monday's voluntary team workout. Sources tell CBS4 he has told the Broncos to trade him. Cuter and his agent met face to face with the Broncos Saturday where no progress was made between the quarterback and his new head coach. Cutler recently put his house on the market. We're told that the timing of the sale is merely coincidence. Cutler had been planning to sell the house for several months. CBS4 has also learned that tight end Tony Scheffler intends on skipping tomorrow's voluntary session. cbs4denver.com/broncos/cutler....2.958850.html
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Post by DB on Mar 15, 2009 23:03:15 GMT -5
come to the jets.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Mar 15, 2009 23:03:53 GMT -5
crazy shit... i could see the bucs making a run at him.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Mar 15, 2009 23:04:14 GMT -5
i doubt they move him though.
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Post by aar on Mar 15, 2009 23:06:07 GMT -5
"Love me, praise me, shower me with kisses" -J. Cutler
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Post by Apollo on Mar 15, 2009 23:09:10 GMT -5
I wouldn't have even put up with this much of his shit.
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Post by dj on Mar 15, 2009 23:52:29 GMT -5
gotta be more to it than what has been reported... Cutler spazzing this much just because his name was mentioned in trade talks?
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Post by Apollo on Mar 15, 2009 23:54:34 GMT -5
gotta be more to it then what has been reported... Cutler spazzing this much just because his name was mentioned in trade talks? Could you imagine if Skillz's players were like Jay Cutler?
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Post by dj on Mar 16, 2009 0:28:57 GMT -5
"I went in there with every intention of solving the issue, being a Bronco, moving forward as a Bronco," said Cutler. "We weren't in there but about 20 minutes, [McDaniels] did most of the talking and as far as I'm concerned, he made it clear he wants his own guy. He admitted he wanted Matt Cassel because he said he has raised him up from the ground as a quarterback. He said he wasn't sorry about it. He made it clear that he could still entertain trading me because, as he put it, he'll do whatever he feels is in the best interest of the organization.
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"At the end of the meeting, he wasn't like, 'Jay, I want you as our quarterback, you're our guy.' It felt like the opposite. He basically said that I needed to tell him if we can't work this out, to let him know. I thought he was antagonizing me and that was disappointing because I was ready to move on, committed as a Bronco. Really, I figured we'd hash things out, shake hands, laugh a little and move forward. What happened [Saturday] was the last thing I expected. If I didn't think it could be fixed, I never would have come back to Denver. It was painfully obvious to me and Bus [Cook, his agent] it's not something they want to fix."
Consequently, Cutler instructed Cook, who also attended the meeting, to formally request a trade. The quarterback said he left town late Sunday and would skip McDaniels' first team meeting on Monday as they begin their off-season program.
Broncos owner Pat Bowlen told the Denver Post on Sunday that he was disappointed with how Cutler has handled the situation. In a telephone interview with ESPN, McDaniels was reluctantly expansive on the story.
"I realy have wanted to avoided a he-said, she-said thing but it's only fair for us to present the Bronco side of the story rather than let things get taken out of context," said McDaniels. "There's been a pattern here for the past two weeks the way things [have been represented] in our communications. I don't think anythng that happened [Saturday] was out of the ordinary. At the end of the meeting, Jay said he had thought about things quite a bit and requested a few more hours to mull things over. He said he wanted to talk to Bus on how to proceed. He was gonna call me on my cell phone and that never happened. Instead, Bus called [GM] Brian [Xanders].
"Again, I think that's been a pattern. I couldn't get [Cutler] to talk to me for two weeks or to talk to Mr. Bowlen. Then when he came here this weekend, we couldn't get a one-on-one meeting, just me and him alone. He wanted Bus in there, so I had Brian sit in, too. And it was the four of us, there wasn't any yelling, none of that. I can't believe we get to a totally different [interpretation].
"It's an unfortunate set of circumstances that has cropped up, a potential distraction and we've done our best to limit that. The main message I want to get out is that we're excited to start our off-season program [Monday]. It's an exciting time for us."
Cutler won't be present at the team meeting.
"I certainly went back there, expecting I'd be there [Monday] but not now," said Cutler. "It's not mandatory. I'll attend every mandatory mini-camp and training camp but that's it. Really, it's best for me to move on. As coach said, he needs every eye in the meeting room to be on him and not me."
As McDaniels pointed out, Cutler had a completely different expectation when he left their private meeting on Saturday.
Cutler said, "You know, even after the meeting, I hung around town, kind of expecting him to call me and say, 'Hey, let's just me and you get away and have lunch or a cup of coffee' and mend things but that didn't happen. So, I get it, really, it's a business. I'm disappointed beause I love being a Bronco but I think it's run its course."
Cutler denied recent reports that he had asked to be traded when the Broncos fired offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates.
"Yes, I was upset when they let Jeremy go because Mr. Bowlen had assured me when Mike [Shanahan] was fired that the offense wouldn't change because [it] was the second-ranked offense in football," said Cutler. "But I didn't push for a trade then."
McDaniels and Cutler agreed on at least one element of the controversy, knocking down a Sunday report on NFL Network that the coach had criticized the quarterback's play in 2008.
"That just isn't true," said McDaniels. "Not a word has been said about that."
Cutler added, "Josh has never said anything negative to me about my play or anything else, for that matter."
McDaniels admitted that the team got involved in trade discussions for Cassel, who instead was dealt to the Kansas City Chiefs. However, he said any perception Cutler felt that the team could still trade him was misleading.
"That's what we have communicated ever since the deal with Cassel didn't happen," said McDaniels. "Other teams have called but we're not interested in getting draft picks for Jay. I never made a statement [Saturday] that 'you can be traded at any time.' They asked a question and I told them it was the time of year when people inquire about your team. Your job, as a head coach and general manager, is to listen and not bypass any opportunity to help your team improve. I think most people [in the NFL] feel the same way. You make smart, educated decisions that are best for your football team."
Cutler feels like McDaniels lost his credibility with him when he initially denied to the quarterback that the Broncos tried to acquire Cassel only to admit it later.
"Before this trade for Cassel thing ever came up, in the two weeks or so I had spent with McDaniels, he was basically telling me that he came to Denver because he wanted to coach me and that we needed to trust each other," said Cutler. "He's never been critical to me. But trust now? How can I trust him now?"
He also explained that his house being placed for sale on the market was "nothing more than a coincidence."
"I had already shown my house privately to some interested buyers a couple of months ago," said Cutler. "I've really been looking to buy 40 to 70 acres of land there."
As for ignoring phone calls from McDaniels and Bowlen, Cutler said, "Josh and I have exchanged text messages. We had a conference call. And if Pat wanted to speak to me, why didn't he come to the meeting on Saturday?"
Cook said that as an agent he was "totally in shock" that it has gotten so ugly.
"I would have bet my house going into Saturday's meeting that everyone would be shaking hands and smiling," said Cook. "I thought it was going to get worked out. But it was very clear to me that Jay Cutler is not their choice to be quarterback of that team."
Yet Cook admitted that when he called Xanders to request a trade on Saturday night, the team's general manager said it wasn't going to happen and that "Jay should show up Monday."
That wasn't going to happen, either.
Chris Mortensen is a senior NFL analyst for ESPN.
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Post by dj on Mar 16, 2009 8:15:23 GMT -5
I'm going to lead with the Cutler story, following two chats I had with Denver coach Josh McDaniels late Sunday night. I got the sense he can't believe it's come to this duel at the OK Corral. "I would probably be really good for Jay, and I know he would be really good for me,'' McDaniels told me over the phone from Denver. "I think that's the part that's shocking to me.'' That it probably will never happen, he means. It makes no sense. None. When the Broncos report for the start of their offseason program this morning at their plush complex south of town, Cutler will be a no-show. I reported recently that Cutler wanted to be traded after the Broncos lost both Mike Shanahan (fired) and offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates (went to USC as offensive coordinator), and that message was delivered to the Denver front office. Now I expect Cutler, through agent Bus Cook, to reiterate his demand ... and what's more, I expect the Broncos to seriously consider it. Owner Pat Bowlen said Sunday night, "we might lose'' Cutler, though he was not specific about how, or why, or when, and Cutler told Chris Mortensen of ESPN he has asked Cook to formally request a trade. Denver has to tread carefully here. McDaniels told me he is frustrated by Cutler's interpretation of a conference call and then an in-person meeting this weekend, and he still wants to talk with Cutler again face-to-face to see if they can iron out their differences. If McDaniels walks into his first meeting with his players this morning, and they think he's trying to kick Cutler to the curb, they're going to ask, "Why did Bowlen hire this idiot?'' But in the end, Denver will have to strongly consider trading Cutler. If you're a rookie coach, as McDaniels is, and you've got to set the right tone for the team, how can you have a quarterback who doesn't want to be there as your franchise leader? Parting with Cutler would be forcing the Broncos to start over at the game's most important position when they thought they had the position filled for the next decade. But Cutler, who is one of the best quarterback prospects to enter the NFL in years, can be moody, and if he never buys what McDaniels is selling, it could drag the team down. How we got to this point, in chronological order: McDaniels said he was not considering trading Cutler until he was contacted "by two teams'' at the Scouting Combine -- presumably Detroit and Tampa. They were pie-in-the-sky inquiries, though, and he didn't consider anything seriously, he said, until the day before the Feb. 27 beginning of free-agency, when he got a serious proposal for Cutler. "This was a non-issue until Thursday [Feb. 26],'' McDaniels said. "There was obviously a scenario where teams figured we'd be interested in Matt Cassel, because I'd coached him in New England. When someone calls, I'm going to consider it, because that's my job.'' Cutler believes the Broncos were much more interested in trading him and signing Cassel than they've said. I asked McDaniels if he'd been interested in Cassel before the contact by the two teams at the combine, going back to when he knew Cassel might be on the market and available in trade from the Patriots. "No, that's totally untrue,'' he said. McDaniels did pursue a deal with New England on the first day of free agency, but not intensely, he said, because he and Broncos general manager Brian Xanders were in the middle of doing six free-agent negotiations in the opening two days of free-agency. "I think we were too late to the dance,'' he said, meaning the Chiefs had already made the deal with New England -- a second-round pick for Cassel and linebacker Mike Vrabel. Denver would have given more, likely a first-round pick, but Patriots coach Bill Belichick had his deal done with the Chiefs. "Do I understand about Jay being hurt that we'd consider this?'' McDaniels said. "Sure. But I can tell you that it wasn't like there was any grand plan by us to trade Jay Cutler. That wasn't the case. But when we've told them [Cutler and Cook], I think it's fallen on deaf ears.'' I texted Cutler and got no response. In his comments to Mortensen earlier, he said his time in Denver "had run its course,'' the rift between him and McDaniels is "not something they want to fix,'' that McDaniels -- in their meeting Saturday -- "made it clear he could still entertain trading me,'' and said the coach "made it clear he wants his own guy.'' I texted McDaniels, and shortly before 1 a.m. Eastern on Monday, he called to react to Cutler's words. "Oh boy,'' he said, and sighed. "No, no, no. Nothing like that was conveyed.'' And he sighed again. "I think the hangup is, 'Well, you considered doing it once, would you ever consider it again?' It keeps coming out like I want my own guy. Thinking we want to trade him now is totally opposite what we've been trying to do here ... We've been trying like hell for two weeks to get a face-to-face meeting.'' What frustrates McDaniels is that the two sides met -- he thinks without acrimony -- and then word gets out that there was tension or vindictiveness in the meeting. "It's hard to believe we're sharing the same intentions and can have such different interpretations of the meeting,'' he said. "When we met [Saturday], my point was, 'We all know where this was, and now we all have to try to move forward.' After we met for a while, and went over a lot of the same ground we'd been over, Jay said to me, 'Can I have a few more hours to think?' I said, 'Yeah, give me a call on my cell phone.' He never called. Bus [Cook] called Brian [Xanders], but Jay didn't call me.'' I asked McDaniels if he feels he'll be forced to trade Cutler. "No,'' he said. "He's got three years left on his contract. We're not at the point where we're going to do it now ... [But] it's probably something we're going to have to talk about. We've been trying to communicate, and I still want to try, but if that's the direction we're headed, we're going to have to talk.'' There's such a gulf in the two versions of events. But it looks like, taking the long view, Cutler will be playing elsewhere unless he and McDaniels sit in a room together for two hours and come out married. That's not likely to happen. Maybe Cutler can't take the dissing he feels from McDaniels, or maybe he's fabricating the dissing to justify in his own mind going somewhere else. I don't know. But I do know this: If I had the choice of Denver, Tampa Bay, Detroit and the Jets, and the Denver coach has worked successfully with Tom Brady and Matt Cassel, I'd be thinking very hard about not burning a bridge that can't be reconstructed. sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ion/index.html
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Post by easy on Mar 16, 2009 8:18:53 GMT -5
Just send Cutler to the Bucs and be over and done with.
Thanks.
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Post by Rocky on Mar 16, 2009 9:37:45 GMT -5
I wouldn't want him.
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Post by easy on Mar 16, 2009 9:38:12 GMT -5
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Post by Speed Racer on Mar 16, 2009 11:20:55 GMT -5
Look, I'd be pissed if I were a so-called 'franchise quarterback' and they were trying to trade me for a shithead QB with one season of decent success. I don't blame him in the least bit for this. Is he a bitch? Sure, but I'd be a bitch in the same situation. Josh McDaniels did an AWFUL job of handling this whole situation - he lied to Jay Cutler various times. If anything, Josh McDaniels has been the bigger piece of shit throughout this whole process.
People can point to Cutlers record as a reason to shut the hell up, but it's not his fault in the least bit that they have had an absolutely atrocious defense.
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Post by Rocky on Mar 16, 2009 11:24:26 GMT -5
He couldn't be handling it worse.
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Post by Funky George! on Mar 16, 2009 11:27:24 GMT -5
I hate Cutler and think he's a huge dickhead, but I don't think he's even kind of wrong. New coach comes in and instead of trying to establish a relationship with the franchise QB, he goes behind his back and tries to trade him? It's a scummy, disloyal move and I'd want out, too.
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Post by Rocky on Mar 16, 2009 11:28:39 GMT -5
He's not wrong to think this. He's wrong to handle it the way he has. 100%.
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Post by Rocky on Mar 16, 2009 11:30:07 GMT -5
Say the right things and bitch behind the scenes. Putting your house on the market is maybe the most pathetic thing I've ever heard.
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