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Post by Rocky on Apr 2, 2009 22:11:42 GMT -5
And that's the beauty of the national football league!
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Post by Rocky on Apr 2, 2009 22:11:57 GMT -5
- Trent Dilfer
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Post by jahallstar on Apr 2, 2009 22:18:13 GMT -5
Cutler is not top 5 though. I would say the 8-14 range.
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Post by jahallstar on Apr 2, 2009 22:20:37 GMT -5
Anyway you look at it.
Cassell got one 2nd round pick. Cutler got 2 1sts, a 3rd and a starter. Why the hell didn't the Bears go after Cassell?
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Post by dj on Apr 2, 2009 22:38:19 GMT -5
One thing bugged me about Cutler... he threw for a lot of yardage but never really seemed to come up with the big throw/play when it really counted, especially against good teams. Even with a good offensive line and good receivers. Hopefully he's more George than Elway the rest of his career. Good bye Jay.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 3, 2009 0:13:48 GMT -5
Cutler is overrated. Plus hes pretty obviously a douche. GL to the Bears though. Jim McMahon was a douche too.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Apr 3, 2009 1:19:49 GMT -5
Cutler is overrated. Plus hes pretty obviously a douche. GL to the Bears though. Jim McMahon was a douche too. you are an idiot if you think Cutler is overrated. He's the sole reason why that Denver wasn't alot worse than they are. When the Defense actually held opponents to 21 points or less Cutler was 16-1 and his only loss was an overtime loss to Favre and his packers on like some crazy 72 yard bomb. Cuter is the real deal and Chicago better find the pieces to surround him. Great great pick-up for Chicago, they got the D, never had the QB now they do.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Apr 3, 2009 1:21:13 GMT -5
TOP 5 QB? what the hell?? have you watched him play? he's a stud. i'd have no problems ranking him next to brees, rivers, eli, mcnabb, ben...he's firmly in the second tier of qbs. i don't know how you could disagree with that, prick or not. I agree with this statement. Cutler is an awesome QB.
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Post by Speed Racer on Apr 3, 2009 1:21:36 GMT -5
Cutler blows.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Apr 3, 2009 1:26:04 GMT -5
Sorry Play...aar is right. No way he was worth that much. Cutler played the worst defenses in the league last year. He had the #16 QB rating ( can't get more average than that) and he is going into next season as the leading active QB when it comes to INTs in the previous season. And guess what....Brandon Marshall will not be there for Cutler to throw to. Ohh yeah...and he's a f'n whining baby. Went for to much? Probably, but let's be real. When's the last time in recent memory there were 10-12 teams trying to trade for one big-time player? Someone needed to step up the ante... this is what it was going to take to get Cutler and the Bears had the balls to pull the trigger. People want to call Cutler overrated but guess what.. the majority of the time he was playing from behind and that's where the INTs and the "Average" QB Rating come from. You put any QB in that situation as Cutler and see if he doesn't perform the same.. and like I stated earlier.. when the defense holds their opponents to 21 points or less Cutler is 16-1... so explain that.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 3, 2009 1:29:58 GMT -5
Sorry Play...aar is right. No way he was worth that much. Cutler played the worst defenses in the league last year. He had the #16 QB rating ( can't get more average than that) and he is going into next season as the leading active QB when it comes to INTs in the previous season. And guess what....Brandon Marshall will not be there for Cutler to throw to. Ohh yeah...and he's a f'n whining baby. Went for to much? Probably, but let's be real. When's the last time in recent memory there were 10-12 teams trying to trade for one big-time player? Someone needed to step up the ante... this is what it was going to take to get Cutler and the Bears had the balls to pull the trigger. I guess its been about a month since 10-12 teams(including Denver) wanted Cassell. It has been awhile.
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Post by Matt on Apr 3, 2009 3:08:18 GMT -5
Great trade the the Bears. Cutler is a stud, a pro-bowler, very young, and yet to reach his prime. Hopefully they draft/sign some good hands around him. If so the Bears will be a big threat in the NFC. B4 Cutler they already had a great D and solid running game.
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Post by Play on Apr 3, 2009 4:11:24 GMT -5
Sorry Play...aar is right. No way he was worth that much. Cutler played the worst defenses in the league last year. He had the #16 QB rating ( can't get more average than that) and he is going into next season as the leading active QB when it comes to INTs in the previous season. And guess what....Brandon Marshall will not be there for Cutler to throw to. Ohh yeah...and he's a f'n whining baby. It sucks that the redskins didn't get him bl jah.
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Post by AllStar0608 on Apr 3, 2009 5:51:05 GMT -5
Sorry Play...aar is right. No way he was worth that much. Cutler played the worst defenses in the league last year. He had the #16 QB rating ( can't get more average than that) and he is going into next season as the leading active QB when it comes to INTs in the previous season. And guess what....Brandon Marshall will not be there for Cutler to throw to. Ohh yeah...and he's a f'n whining baby. It sucks that the redskins didn't get him bl jah. even dan snyder wouldnt give up that many picks
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Post by AllStar0608 on Apr 3, 2009 5:52:34 GMT -5
Cutler can be a top 3 qb or not in the top 20 in any given game ya he has some consistency issues. i rank him in the 8-12 range. he is good and young. he wont be asked to do as much in chicago as he did in denver which will help him. he sure as fuck wasnt worth 2 1sts and a 3rd though.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Apr 3, 2009 6:19:31 GMT -5
Went for to much? Probably, but let's be real. When's the last time in recent memory there were 10-12 teams trying to trade for one big-time player? Someone needed to step up the ante... this is what it was going to take to get Cutler and the Bears had the balls to pull the trigger. I guess its been about a month since 10-12 teams(including Denver) wanted Cassell. It has been awhile. Let's be real though are we going to compare Cassell to Cutler? Also many people think Belichek was just doing a favor by giving Cassell away "for free".
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Post by jahallstar on Apr 3, 2009 6:23:03 GMT -5
Sorry Play...aar is right. No way he was worth that much. Cutler played the worst defenses in the league last year. He had the #16 QB rating ( can't get more average than that) and he is going into next season as the leading active QB when it comes to INTs in the previous season. And guess what....Brandon Marshall will not be there for Cutler to throw to. Ohh yeah...and he's a f'n whining baby. It sucks that the redskins didn't get him bl jah. In no way shape or form would I have been happy if we just did #13 for him strait up. The Broncos did a masterful job of making it look like he had more suiters than he really did.
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Post by dj on Apr 3, 2009 6:42:32 GMT -5
Sorry Play...aar is right. No way he was worth that much. Cutler played the worst defenses in the league last year. He had the #16 QB rating ( can't get more average than that) and he is going into next season as the leading active QB when it comes to INTs in the previous season. And guess what....Brandon Marshall will not be there for Cutler to throw to. Ohh yeah...and he's a f'n whining baby. when the defense holds their opponents to 21 points or less Cutler is 16-1... so explain that. This statistic is similar for lots of Qb's. Ie - Kyle Orton was 6-1 last season when the opposition scored 21pts or less.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Apr 3, 2009 8:15:28 GMT -5
when the defense holds their opponents to 21 points or less Cutler is 16-1... so explain that. This statistic is similar for lots of Qb's. Ie - Kyle Orton was 6-1 last season when the opposition scored 21pts or less. Did you just pull that stat out of your ass? LOL I can name two losses alone last season against the Titans and Panthers.. so let's say 6-2... it's definetly not 16-1... and that one loss was in OT on a hail mary type bomb. We all know Chicago had the D and to compare Orton to Cutler is just plain stupid but coming from you it doesn't surprise me.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Apr 3, 2009 8:54:23 GMT -5
Cutler is a very good and will probably be a great qb in another year or two. He isn't a fit for the Bears at this point imo. He turns the ball over way too much and is too inconsistent for them. A lot of their better players are on the downside of their career.
Also, I watched Favre for years go into Soldier on insanely windy days and try to thread the ball into a lot of places he had no chance to because of the wind. Cutler does the same type of things and will be playing at Soldier a lot more than one time a season.
Longterm this is probably a great trade for the Bears. I don't like it nearly as much for the next two or three seasons though.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 3, 2009 11:41:51 GMT -5
Ive just read so much negative stuff about his personality, Im of the opinion a good QB has to be a leader too. Not sure he is.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Apr 3, 2009 11:42:58 GMT -5
Ive just read so much negative stuff about his personality, Im of the opinion a good QB has to be a leader too. Not sure he is. I've heard that yeah he's very very emotion driven but in my opinion that's a good thing for a QB not neccesarily a bad thing... plus a lot of the guys in the Denver lockerroom like Cutler it's not like anyone hates him.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 3, 2009 11:43:42 GMT -5
Ive just read so much negative stuff about his personality, Im of the opinion a good QB has to be a leader too. Not sure he is. I've heard that yeah he's very very emotion driven but in my opinion that's a good thing for a QB not neccesarily a bad thing... plus a lot of the guys in the Denver lockerroom like Cutler it's not like anyone hates him. I read a snip it that Denver thought he was a negative in the locker room.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 3, 2009 11:44:01 GMT -5
IDK, he put up impressive stats. Time will tell.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Apr 3, 2009 11:45:58 GMT -5
I've heard that yeah he's very very emotion driven but in my opinion that's a good thing for a QB not neccesarily a bad thing... plus a lot of the guys in the Denver lockerroom like Cutler it's not like anyone hates him. I read a snip it that Denver thought he was a negative in the locker room. Urlacher, at least publicly, seems to be fine with Cutler and said (I forget the guys name but he's a LB for the Bears) that this guy knew Cutler personally and therefore Urlacher wasn't worried about Cutler being a distraction and when the leader of a team gives you his approval I think that's huge.
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