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Post by Dave on Apr 19, 2009 9:47:43 GMT -5
Spurs Send: David Abernathy, Deion Mashburn, and Bradley Kinkirk
Bulls Send: Alastair De Groot
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Post by Play on Apr 19, 2009 9:50:08 GMT -5
Strange deal for Andy...Love it for the Spurs
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Post by aar on Apr 19, 2009 9:51:22 GMT -5
Solid for both
Abernathy looks really good
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Post by nybombers3 on Apr 19, 2009 9:55:34 GMT -5
I agree.
Kinkirk's going to be a stud C. He can block shots, rebound and score. He turns the ball over, sure, but that's because he's trying to give the other team a chance. He's a stud bro. He's also slowing improving his FT shooting. Don't let that F+ fool you. He's at least a D at outside scoring.
Mashburn is a scoring machine. He can score from anyone on the court besides 17 ft out. That's ok though. He easily has the best contract in the league. He's so damn sexy, he'll win 6MOTY with ease even though he's been a starter. The league is changing the rules for him.
As for Abernathy, I got 4 words for ya. CARS. DOT. COM. BITCHES.
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Post by Skillz on Apr 19, 2009 9:58:21 GMT -5
like it for andy
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Post by nybombers3 on Apr 19, 2009 9:58:42 GMT -5
Strange deal for Andy...Love it for the Spurs What's strange about it? My current team isn't winning it all. I picked up a very nice PG in Abernathy who I really wanted in the draft. Kinkirk is a pretty solid C himself (and he's a rookie). Mash gives me more depth.
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Post by Play on Apr 19, 2009 10:03:04 GMT -5
Strange deal for Andy...Love it for the Spurs What's strange about it? My current team isn't winning it all. I picked up a very nice PG in Abernathy who I really wanted in the draft. Kinkirk is a pretty solid C himself (and he's a rookie). Mash gives me more depth. stfu bitch.
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Post by Funky George! on Apr 19, 2009 10:03:44 GMT -5
Love it for the Bulls. I don't like De Groot at all.
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Post by nybombers3 on Apr 19, 2009 10:04:29 GMT -5
What's strange about it? My current team isn't winning it all. I picked up a very nice PG in Abernathy who I really wanted in the draft. Kinkirk is a pretty solid C himself (and he's a rookie). Mash gives me more depth. stfu bitch. BLOW ME FUCKER
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Post by Dave on Apr 19, 2009 10:11:27 GMT -5
Love it for the Bulls. I don't like De Groot at all. I don't see whats not to like. His inside went up this past TC, his FT% has gone up drastically, he has very good hands for a big man, he has one RC left, and he's 1 of 4 players in the league who are under 30 and block more than 3 shots a game. He's locked up long term for a reasonable rate. He's good now with a chance to get a little better.
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Post by Funky George! on Apr 19, 2009 10:14:52 GMT -5
Love it for the Bulls. I don't like De Groot at all. I don't see whats not to like. His inside went up this past TC, his FT% has gone up drastically, he has very good hands for a big man, he has one RC left, and he's 1 of 4 players in the league who are under 30 and block more than 3 shots a game. He's locked up long term for a reasonable rate. He's good now with a chance to get a little better. His shotblocking has gone down, his rebounding has gone down (and is mediocre anyway). He doesn't shoot above 40% and doesn't score anyway so his inside might as well be C. He's a good shotblocker but there isn't anything else he does well.
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Post by Speed Racer on Apr 19, 2009 10:18:14 GMT -5
I don't like De Groot either. Definitely think he's overpaid. Like it for Andy.
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Post by Dave on Apr 19, 2009 10:21:25 GMT -5
I don't see whats not to like. His inside went up this past TC, his FT% has gone up drastically, he has very good hands for a big man, he has one RC left, and he's 1 of 4 players in the league who are under 30 and block more than 3 shots a game. He's locked up long term for a reasonable rate. He's good now with a chance to get a little better. His shotblocking has gone down, his rebounding has gone down (and is mediocre anyway). He doesn't shoot above 40% and doesn't score anyway so his inside might as well be C. He's a good shotblocker but there isn't anything else he does well. His shot blocking has gone down from 3.7 to 3.3. I'm confident to say thats pretty much the same and we're in midseason. Also he's never been a scoring option ever in his career. So who knows maybe he can score if given the opportunity.
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Post by Skillz on Apr 19, 2009 10:23:04 GMT -5
De Groot kinda sucks besides for his shot blocking
he's never scored more than 22 points in his career
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Post by Dave on Apr 19, 2009 10:24:25 GMT -5
De Groot kinda sucks besides for his shot blocking he's never scored more than 22 points in his career He is no Dennis Meyer thats for sure.
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Post by nybombers3 on Apr 19, 2009 10:28:29 GMT -5
Where's Spencer?
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Post by Spencer on Apr 19, 2009 10:47:10 GMT -5
Im right here.
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Post by nybombers3 on Apr 19, 2009 10:48:19 GMT -5
Nice.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 19, 2009 10:56:57 GMT -5
Andy, you need a cut.
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Post by nybombers3 on Apr 19, 2009 10:58:25 GMT -5
Hickson
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Post by Spencer on Apr 19, 2009 11:00:12 GMT -5
trade in
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Post by noves on Apr 19, 2009 11:03:39 GMT -5
Like it for Andy, but not bad for Dave either.
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Post by Funky George! on Apr 19, 2009 12:09:42 GMT -5
Dave has been extremely proactive in trying to fix the Spurs and that's all anyone can ask. I don't think anyone doubts he's going to do a good job.
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Post by Skillz on Apr 19, 2009 12:14:28 GMT -5
lol allstar shutup
you suck, the spurs are already in much better shape than they ever were under you
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Post by Dave on Apr 19, 2009 12:35:48 GMT -5
I think Abernathy is a nice player but far from extraordinary. I don't think he has much room to improve. I think Kinkirk is a stiff and a ball hog. I liked Mashburn but I'd rather have a solid guy in the post who can block shots. De Groot can be an anchor there for a long time.
Lavoie is better than anyone I would have gotten in free agency and the Rebel's pick wasn't anything of value.
I'm not trying to improve this team to win this year but hopefully I can be competitive next season or season after that. I'm hoping Deng doesn't retire this way I can have a nice expiring for next season...if you look at my roster I have plenty of guys who will expire next season and thats when I plan on making my move. I'm trying to build something up from nothing. Keeping a boat load of role players on the roster was going to get me where late lotto every year?
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