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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Apr 27, 2009 9:43:36 GMT -5
I want to know Tampa Bays draft grade.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Apr 27, 2009 9:44:36 GMT -5
from mcshay
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
2009 draft class
Best pick: DT Roy Miller, Texas (Third round, No. 81 overall)
Worst pick: QB Josh Freeman, Kansas State (First round, No. 17 overall)
Bottom line: This will be a good situation for Freeman, who has tremendous upside and will be given the opportunity to watch and learn from the sidelines behind Byron Leftwich and company. Still, the Bucs purged their roster in the offseason and have a multitude of needs, and instead of addressing one in the mid-first round, they traded up two spots to reach even more for a QB with high bust potential. Time will tell, but I'm not sure the risk is worth the potential reward for this rebuilding franchise. I really like Miller in the third, however, and defensive coordinator Jim Bates is trying to get bigger and stronger. It's not the old Tampa 2 and both Miller and DE Kyle Moore project better for what Bates is looking for in his new defense.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Apr 27, 2009 9:46:34 GMT -5
I'm guessing that is what you meant. I haven't seen any actual draft grade articles yet but I haven't really looked
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Apr 27, 2009 9:47:44 GMT -5
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Post by cjmjones008 on Apr 27, 2009 9:50:09 GMT -5
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: GRADE: B
The Bucs could've stayed where they were and still gotten Josh Freeman, so I don't understand the decision to trade up for him. He has a lot of upside, but he's a risk/reward type of player because he isn't as polished as some of the other top quarterbacks in this draft. The Bucs made some very solid picks throughout the draft, including defensive end Kyle Moore in the fourth round and wide receiver Sammie Stroughter in the final round.
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Post by Ebener 12 on Apr 27, 2009 9:51:18 GMT -5
Hey, can you show me Jags too? Thanks alot.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Apr 27, 2009 10:09:21 GMT -5
Jacksonville Jaguars: GRADE: C+
I understand the Jaguars felt that offensive line was a need, but I felt picking Eben Britton that early in the second round was a reach, but not nearly as big of a reach as cornerback Derek Cox in the third round. The selections of Mike Thomas and Jarrett Dillard in the fourth and fifth rounds were good ones and I really like the seventh-round selections of Rashad Jennings and Tiquan Underwood. Honestly, the late-round selections are what saved the Jaguars' grade.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Apr 27, 2009 10:11:03 GMT -5
See Ebener, I'm telling you Underwood is going to surprise alot of people ,lol.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Apr 27, 2009 10:25:11 GMT -5
After watcing Mike Teel for the last 3 years. I have no clue why anyone would want him
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Apr 27, 2009 10:27:33 GMT -5
mike teel is fucking awful.. he's the main reason why Rutgers didn't advance further than what they did a couple of years back when we had Ray Rice and Leonard.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Apr 27, 2009 10:32:35 GMT -5
Mike Teel is the reason I never worried about WVU losing to Rutgers. I don't know how they couldn't have picked up someone better along the way. The freshman Rutgers got has to be better
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Post by Sheryl Yoast on Apr 27, 2009 10:55:12 GMT -5
Raiders grade please.
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Post by Rocky on Apr 27, 2009 10:57:53 GMT -5
Do you really want to see it?
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Post by Spencer on Apr 27, 2009 11:13:03 GMT -5
Oakland Raiders: GRADE D
Oakland's draft was a head-scratcher. The Raiders took wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey at No. 7 even though Michael Crabtree and Jeremy Maclin were still on the board, but the biggest reach of their draft and of the entire draft was the second-round selection of safety Michael Mitchell. This kid was thought to be a seventh-round pick at best and possibly an undrafted free agent, and the Raiders pulled the ultimate reach by taking him in the second round.
I just want to say that my issues with those two picks have nothing to do with those players. Congrats to them for getting picked and obviously having the talent to make it to the NFL. My issue is that these weren't good value picks for the organization. The Raiders could have gotten more value from the No. 7 pick and definitely more value from the No. 47 pick, and that's why I believe they made a mistake. The only reason Oakland didn't receive an F is because they did get some players.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 27, 2009 11:13:19 GMT -5
San Francisco 49ers: GRADE: B+
Obviously the 49ers hit the jackpot with wide receiver Michael Crabtree falling to them at No. 10. Running back Glen Coffee gives the 49ers a nice one-two punch with Frank Gore. Getting inside linebacker Scott McKillop in the fifth round was a steal. Bear Pascoe is one of the best blocking tight ends in the draft, and the two LSU kids (Curtis Taylor and Ricky Jean-Francois) were great pickups in the seventh round.
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Post by Sheryl Yoast on Apr 27, 2009 12:02:46 GMT -5
Oakland Raiders: GRADE D Oakland's draft was a head-scratcher. The Raiders took wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey at No. 7 even though Michael Crabtree and Jeremy Maclin were still on the board, but the biggest reach of their draft and of the entire draft was the second-round selection of safety Michael Mitchell. This kid was thought to be a seventh-round pick at best and possibly an undrafted free agent, and the Raiders pulled the ultimate reach by taking him in the second round. I just want to say that my issues with those two picks have nothing to do with those players. Congrats to them for getting picked and obviously having the talent to make it to the NFL. My issue is that these weren't good value picks for the organization. The Raiders could have gotten more value from the No. 7 pick and definitely more value from the No. 47 pick, and that's why I believe they made a mistake. The only reason Oakland didn't receive an F is because they did get some players. Really doing more information on Mitchell I really don't mind the pick. Chicago was apparently going to take him at 49. He's 6'1 216, hard hitting and is fast. Defintiley has some tools to work with |
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Apr 27, 2009 12:04:49 GMT -5
he's another Huff, have fun.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 27, 2009 12:26:06 GMT -5
I love the Niners draft. I was a little disappointed in Coffee but he looks decent. I really like Mckillop. Seems like a pefect fit as a special teamer and eventual replacement for Spikes. Pascoe seems like a perfect fit as a blocking tight end for us and with VD that should improve our run game. I also like the intrigue of the two LSU players.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Apr 27, 2009 12:28:15 GMT -5
I just think Crabtree is a ridiculous pick-up. He might not be the best WR in this draft when we look back at it, but I think he's going to be a can't miss guy.
He can be another Keenan McCardell and that's not a bad thing at all.
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Post by Rocky on Apr 27, 2009 12:33:49 GMT -5
I just think Crabtree is a ridiculous pick-up. He might not be the best WR in this draft when we look back at it, but I think he's going to be a can't miss guy. He can be another Keenan McCardell and that's not a bad thing at all. Yeah, Crabtree is such a beast. That was so sick for the Niners. |
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Post by Speed Racer on Apr 27, 2009 12:46:40 GMT -5
I love the Niners draft. I was a little disappointed in Coffee but he looks decent. I really like Mckillop. Seems like a pefect fit as a special teamer and eventual replacement for Spikes. Pascoe seems like a perfect fit as a blocking tight end for us and with VD that should improve our run game. I also like the intrigue of the two LSU players. Scott McKillop is really, really good. |
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Apr 27, 2009 12:47:27 GMT -5
being from Pitt doesn't have anything to do with it does it?
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Post by Speed Racer on Apr 27, 2009 12:50:24 GMT -5
being from Pitt doesn't have anything to do with it does it? Well, it certainly means I have a little more knowledge about him, but no, I think he'll be a really good player. He's a really hard-worker and developed an all-around game that nobody saw coming. Initially, McKillop seemed to be a guy with limited upside but a player with football smarts and sharp instincts. He ended up developing his game thoroughly. He improved in pass coverage, became a much, much better pass-rusher, and sharpened his amazing ability to make tackles. I'd say he is a better player than H.B. Blades who has had some success in the NFL. |
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Post by Spencer on Apr 27, 2009 12:59:35 GMT -5
being from Pitt doesn't have anything to do with it does it? Well, it certainly means I have a little more knowledge about him, but no, I think he'll be a really good player. He's a really hard-worker and developed an all-around game that nobody saw coming. Initially, McKillop seemed to be a guy with limited upside but a player with football smarts and sharp instincts. He ended up developing his game thoroughly. He improved in pass coverage, became a much, much better pass-rusher, and sharpened his amazing ability to make tackles. I'd say he is a better player than H.B. Blades who has had some success in the NFL. He seems to be in the mold of tons of linebackers from Niners past. Derek Smith, Mike Walter. Riki Ellison, Hacksaw Reynolds. Hard workers who know the game. Limited athletically, but with Willis playing next to you him we just need him to be the plugger. |
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Apr 27, 2009 13:06:36 GMT -5
A- for the Jets. Wish we would've had more mid round selections.
I really like the Rashad Jennings pick for Jacksonville. Underwood had some ridiculous games in college.
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