Manny suspended 50 games.

[jahallstar]

Yup...who's next?

[DB]

damn and it goes on and on.

[DB]

www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-manny-ramirez8-2009may08,0,6324894.story

[jahallstar]

They are saying it was not steroids or anything.

[GMGreggor]

May 7, 2009 10:59:50 GMT -5 jahallstar said:

They are saying it was not steroids or anything.

They arent saying that at all.

Anymore doubt tho this should'nt be known as the steroid era with astericks for records?

[Sheryl Yoast]

May 7, 2009 21:16:44 GMT -5 GMGreggor said:

May 7, 2009 10:59:50 GMT -5 jahallstar said:

They are saying it was not steroids or anything.

They arent saying that at all.

Anymore doubt tho this should'nt be known as the steroid era with astericks for records?

Umm they definitely are.

[Sheryl Yoast]

I still am going to the bar tonight to celebrate this great day for Giants fans.

[GMGreggor]

A high-ranking sports doping authority said HCG could legitimately be prescribed for a man who does not naturally produce enough testosterone, but BALCO founder and convicted steroid dealer Victor Conte said it is often used to replenish testosterone levels at the end of a cycle of steroid treatments

He was coming off a steroid use cycle. What's hard to understand here?

[GMGreggor]

sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=4150444

[jahallstar]

Greg that is called speculation. There is no proof of steroids.

[GMGreggor]

Jah, it is not speculation he tested positive for that drug.
It is not speculation that drug is used in conjunction with steroids.

[jahallstar]

Yeah it is. lol

If you were to say.

It is not speculation that drug CAN BE used in conjunction with steroids.

Then you would be correct.

[Funky George!]

May 8, 2009 10:34:00 GMT -5 jahallstar said:

Yeah it is. lol

If you were to say.

It is not speculation that drug CAN BE used in conjunction with steroids.

Then you would be correct.

It's a fact that the drug is used in conjunction with steroid use. It's speculation to say that Manny used the drug in conjunction with steroid use.

But it really isn't speculation. He obviously got caught, and it sucks.

[GMGreggor]

Yep

In legal terminology he did'nt use steroids maybe, but I think you have to be pretty naive to believe he was'nt. I'm not prosecuting him for steroid use. I'm just stating the obvious.

[jahallstar]

It is hard to say. 3-4 years ago sure of course it would be pretty obvious. He has been tested many many times over the past few years and there were no signs of steroids though.

[Rocky]

It blows.

[GMGreggor]

May 8, 2009 11:14:18 GMT -5 jahallstar said:

It is hard to say. 3-4 years ago sure of course it would be pretty obvious. He has been tested many many times over the past few years and there were no signs of steroids though.

Jah,most criminals are'nt caught on their very first offence.
You know that,

[jahallstar]

I figured a drug test is supposed to be fairly accurate.

[GMGreggor]

May 8, 2009 11:22:21 GMT -5 jahallstar said:

I figured a drug test is supposed to be fairly accurate.

Professional atheletes,the ones using anyway use masking agents and load during the offseasons when they are'nt tested and know exactly what they can do and when they can do it.

TBH the ones that get caught are the careless ones.
It's like computer viruses. The perpetrators are generally always one step ahead of the anti-virus guys.

[jahallstar]

Then why have power numbers gone done since testing began?

[Pacman]

Mlb is a joke.

Mlb = wwe

[GMGreggor]

May 8, 2009 13:39:18 GMT -5 jahallstar said:

Then why have power numbers gone done since testing began?

Relative to?

They are'nt busting out 70 a yr anymore no but they are still much higher than in pre steroid era history.