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Post by Apollo on May 18, 2009 8:38:50 GMT -5
Stern will still assure there will be a CLE/LA Finals Easy to say after your team just got eliminated. Game 6 officiating was horrible. I've said it since the playoffs began.
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Post by GMGreggor on May 18, 2009 8:56:10 GMT -5
And this is why I'm not a huge NBA fan. As long as I can remember there has always been the suspicions of bias by the league and the officiating. And quite honestly not necessarily unfounded. If you beat the chosen teams,you have to beat them and the officiating. Which calls into play...
Is it really a legitimate sporting event where both parties have an equal shot to win?
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on May 18, 2009 9:08:08 GMT -5
I don't buy the whole "Stern is going to make it happen" or whatever bullshit. The better team is always going to win, pure and simple. Denver has a shot at beating LA, absolutely. I think they got the size to neutralize Gasol and Bynum. What I don't see is them having anyone to stop Kobe. If Kobe is Kobe Denver will have a tough time.
I mean the season series is 3-1 to the Lakers. Granted the first game was when Iverson was still on the team but the Lakers have given the Nuggets trouble all-season. I think it'll go 6 games, Lakers.
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Post by Matt on May 18, 2009 23:10:17 GMT -5
NBA Officiating is criticized more than any other sport, and rightfully so. NBA calls control every aspect of the game. But If stern was going to make it happen, would the spurs be a dynasty? That was horrible for ratings. If stern was going to make it happen the Suns would of gotten past them
The one thing I hate about NBA officiating is that in one series (or game) they will let both teams play hard and wont call a damn thing, yet another series (or game) every pussy small play is called a foul. It seems like teams with tough physical defenses don't get called for shit because the refs get used to that type of play, but when softer teams don't get the same respect. The Celtics are a perfect example. Regardless of who they play, the C's seem to be allowed to get away with fouls because of their physical team makeup. Does anyone else agree with that?
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Post by aar on May 18, 2009 23:11:31 GMT -5
I'm betting on the Nuggets, they will lose because of that
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Post by Spencer on May 18, 2009 23:18:00 GMT -5
NBA Officiating is criticized more than any other sport, and rightfully so. NBA calls control every aspect of the game. But If stern was going to make it happen, would the spurs be a dynasty? That was horrible for ratings. If stern was going to make it happen the Suns would of gotten past them The one thing I hate about NBA officiating is that in one series (or game) they will let both teams play hard and wont call a damn thing, yet another series (or game) every pussy small play is called a foul. It seems like teams with tough physical defenses don't get called for shit because the refs get used to that type of play, but when softer teams don't get the same respect. The Celtics are a perfect example. Regardless of who they play, the C's seem to be allowed to get away with fouls because of their physical team makeup. Does anyone else agree with that? The Pistons were a good example of this. I still think Kobe gets way too many calls.
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Post by Ebener 12 on May 18, 2009 23:20:11 GMT -5
I really like the Nuggets with the whole Billups homecoming situation. Good story, gave me a reason to "root" for someone I guess...
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Post by Phoenix Phil on May 18, 2009 23:36:01 GMT -5
NBA Officiating is criticized more than any other sport, and rightfully so. NBA calls control every aspect of the game. But If stern was going to make it happen, would the spurs be a dynasty? That was horrible for ratings. If stern was going to make it happen the Suns would of gotten past them The one thing I hate about NBA officiating is that in one series (or game) they will let both teams play hard and wont call a damn thing, yet another series (or game) every pussy small play is called a foul. It seems like teams with tough physical defenses don't get called for shit because the refs get used to that type of play, but when softer teams don't get the same respect. The Celtics are a perfect example. Regardless of who they play, the C's seem to be allowed to get away with fouls because of their physical team makeup. Does anyone else agree with that? The Pistons were a good example of this. I still think Kobe gets way too many calls. he does
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Post by Matt on May 18, 2009 23:41:59 GMT -5
True but not even close to Wade. I think Pierce got more calls than Kobe this year as well.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on May 19, 2009 8:07:14 GMT -5
The Pistons were a good example of this. I still think Kobe gets way too many calls. he does Stars, in any sport, will always get the calls. And then the floppers "Divac, Manus, etc" won't get the same calls because they've been known to flop
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Post by GMGreggor on May 19, 2009 8:23:14 GMT -5
Agrees, I'm not saying Stern tells the refs to let one team win. I think the lg though as a whole has a star system much more pronounced than any other lg.
A foul should be a foul regardless of who's commiting it or receiving it. Pierce was getting calls the other day where he was just flopping. Kobe gets a ton,Wade,Shaq for all his bitching about being fouled, if the game was called by the book would've fouled out by halftime every game if he did'nt adjust. Bird got calls,Magic,MJ like none other. It's nothing new, but has more of an impact on the game than other sports. Just my view. If one team gets to the line 20 more times than the other because of star calls that's 20 points the other team has to make up. Not that it cant be done, the Pistons did it against the Lakers in what 05? But it isnt an even sporting event like that.
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Post by Apollo on May 19, 2009 17:38:58 GMT -5
I don't buy the whole "Stern is going to make it happen" or whatever bullshit. The better team is always going to win, pure and simple. Denver has a shot at beating LA, absolutely. I think they got the size to neutralize Gasol and Bynum. What I don't see is them having anyone to stop Kobe. If Kobe is Kobe Denver will have a tough time. I mean the season series is 3-1 to the Lakers. Granted the first game was when Iverson was still on the team but the Lakers have given the Nuggets trouble all-season. I think it'll go 6 games, Lakers. Lakers also won the season series against the Rockets 4-0,then got taken to 7 games by them, including losing two games to a Yao-less team. The season series means nothing.
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Post by OJ the Juiceman on May 20, 2009 0:20:42 GMT -5
Anthony Carter
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Post by Matt on May 20, 2009 1:01:14 GMT -5
lol
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Post by Matt on May 20, 2009 3:19:48 GMT -5
1-0
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on May 20, 2009 8:18:53 GMT -5
I don't buy the whole "Stern is going to make it happen" or whatever bullshit. The better team is always going to win, pure and simple. Denver has a shot at beating LA, absolutely. I think they got the size to neutralize Gasol and Bynum. What I don't see is them having anyone to stop Kobe. If Kobe is Kobe Denver will have a tough time. I mean the season series is 3-1 to the Lakers. Granted the first game was when Iverson was still on the team but the Lakers have given the Nuggets trouble all-season. I think it'll go 6 games, Lakers. Lakers also won the season series against the Rockets 4-0,then got taken to 7 games by them, including losing two games to a Yao-less team. The season series means nothing. actually it does, if you go look at percentages teams that have swept the season series usually win the playoff series over 85% of the time.
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Post by Ebener 12 on May 20, 2009 15:40:49 GMT -5
I remember when the NBA used to be awesome to watch, early 90's. Shit it's just too bad.
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Post by Matt on May 20, 2009 17:13:21 GMT -5
I remember when the NBA used to be awesome to watch, early 90's. Shit it's just too bad. When you were like 4? Ya, Kobe and Bron is really boring.
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Post by Speed Racer on May 20, 2009 17:32:34 GMT -5
The product the NBA is putting out right now is just fairly garbage. The refs are far and away the worst in professional sports. They are ruining the game right now and that's just sad.
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Post by OJ the Juiceman on May 20, 2009 17:35:49 GMT -5
lol @ Ebener pining for the old days when he was still a toddler
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Post by Matt on May 20, 2009 17:49:57 GMT -5
The product the NBA is putting out right now is just fairly garbage. The refs are far and away the worst in professional sports. They are ruining the game right now and that's just sad. Highly agree about the Reffs but I still love the NBA. I think Stern has actually done a great job overall, but how he has changed how there gunna call the game sux. Maniac, If the WIZ were a contender no way in hell would be saying this. The NBA is garbage to you because your team sux, and your biggest rival might win it all.
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Post by Speed Racer on May 20, 2009 18:35:14 GMT -5
The product the NBA is putting out right now is just fairly garbage. The refs are far and away the worst in professional sports. They are ruining the game right now and that's just sad. Highly agree about the Reffs but I still love the NBA. I think Stern has actually done a great job overall, but how he has changed how there gunna call the game sux. Maniac, If the WIZ were a contender no way in hell would be saying this. The NBA is garbage to you because your team sux, and your biggest rival might win it all. No, that's not at all why I think the NBA sucks right now. The product just isn't as entertaining as it used to be.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on May 20, 2009 19:15:55 GMT -5
Concerning the refs and their inconsistencies, I think Greg put it perfectly. Star treatment is way more significant and visible in the NBA than it is in any other league.
That said, the product the NBA is putting out is the best it has been in years, probably since Jordan... can't see how anybody would argue that.
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Post by cjmjones008 on May 20, 2009 20:33:09 GMT -5
the nhl has passed the nba this year for me
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Post by Spencer on May 20, 2009 20:36:27 GMT -5
The NBA overall is fine. Still my favorite to watch, especially playoffs.
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