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Post by travesy3 on Oct 19, 2009 9:42:39 GMT -5
Once Morrison is completely over as a face in the main event would be a good time to turn him heel. Or turn him heel by making him want to end Undertaker's streak. But of course if he was in a feud with the Undertaker I guarantee it would be one of those stupid "respect" type of feuds.
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Post by sti11in5ane on Oct 19, 2009 9:42:45 GMT -5
they missed the boat on turning Cena heel a couple years back when he came to Raw and I think Batista was champ at the time. They shoulda done it then he would have been a power house.
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 19, 2009 9:43:25 GMT -5
Yeah I heard a new corporation might be in the works on SD! with Vince, it would be awesome like back in the day he hated Stone Cold as champ, he could say Punk is the 'ideal champ'. The stable would be like Punk (champ), Escobar, McKintyre or w/e his name is (possible tag team champs) and Vikki + Vince + maybe another person or two like Kane or someone idk..... that would be awesome though the WWE needs more stables and I like wrestling 10x more when Vince is on my TV and is a heel. I don't know any of those wrestlers lol.
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 19, 2009 9:44:02 GMT -5
they missed the boat on turning Cena heel a couple years back when he came to Raw and I think Batista was champ at the time. They shoulda done it then he would have been a power house. I remember Cena as such a tool and that although he was meant to be a face, most fans hated him lol.
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Post by travesy3 on Oct 19, 2009 9:44:13 GMT -5
Ya Tiger those guys are a lot of new guys looking to get pushed lol.
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Post by sti11in5ane on Oct 19, 2009 9:44:46 GMT -5
Morrison needs to stay face, didn't get over all that well as a heel, I felt miz carried them as far as heat went. Morrison can def go in the ring though.
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Post by travesy3 on Oct 19, 2009 9:44:52 GMT -5
If they wait another 2-3 years to turn Cena heel it would be even more epic though, how long has he been a face for? It will be like when Hogan turned heel in WCW the crowd will be heartbroken.
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Post by travesy3 on Oct 19, 2009 9:45:37 GMT -5
Ya I know I am saying once Morrison is over more as a face, completely over with the crowd then turn Cena heel.
I think MVP could put together a good feud with Cena, he is underrated in the ring too IMO.
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 19, 2009 9:45:53 GMT -5
WWE just needs more stables in general IMO, the best stars are built from tag teams/stables... fuck look at Morrison and Miz lol both are the IC and US champs and were one of the only duos who got actual mic time. WWE needs to go back and watch how they did their promos and shit from 98-01, I don't care about the swearing and gore but their approach to booking is just horrid now, at least Raw is improving (barely). 98-01 was the Attitude era though right? Nobody can be the DX of that era, not even HBK and Triple H now, surely they're too old? Also, back then the WWE/F had the Rock and Austin as major draws... who does the WWE have now that can draw in the same sort of ratings?
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Post by travesy3 on Oct 19, 2009 9:46:14 GMT -5
Ya Cena is a face now, but most WWE fans over 13 hate him because he is corny and annoying. His promos are cringe worthy.
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 19, 2009 9:46:43 GMT -5
Wasn't the Miz on Tough Enough or something like that? LOL
I remember Morrison as a member of MNM or something like that with the chick who did the splits to get in ring.
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 19, 2009 9:47:51 GMT -5
Ya Cena is a face now, but most WWE fans over 13 hate him because he is corny and annoying. His promos are cringe worthy. He wrestling is cringe-worthy... well it was when I last watched wrestling... has he improved? From the time I stopped watching the only guy I thought the company could legitimately use as a draw was Randy Orton. I hope they haven't fucked him up.
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Post by travesy3 on Oct 19, 2009 9:47:54 GMT -5
Ya I'm not saying they need to be vulger or re-create the attitude era. But their booking was so much more creative then... now everything is so predictable especially the matches....
Everytime someone does their finisher the match is over, you can always guess when the end is there even in PPV's (with the exception of a few matches this year).
Nothing ever happens anymore, only like 2 heels in the WWE can draw heat anymore things just need to be shaken up, all the feuds are stale and overdone, they don't create stars like they used to and everything is a gimmick now.
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Post by travesy3 on Oct 19, 2009 9:49:23 GMT -5
Well Cena is the biggest draw in terms of people cheering for him and buying his shit, because the era is now the PG Era (lol) so all the kids buy his shit. Jeff Hardy was probably the most over face in the business until he left, Orton, CM Punk and Jericho are the best heels and Miz catches solid heat too as a mid-carder.
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 19, 2009 9:49:40 GMT -5
In fact, the best part of wrestling storlines was always the factions. DX, Nation, Corporation even Evolution... they all signal some sort of good entertainment, especially if they have rivals to go at it with. Hell, I remember even when Benoit, Guerrero, Saturn and Dean Malenko joined WWE as a faction. Raven's Flock back in WCW... man lots of great storylines to be had with factions.
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Post by travesy3 on Oct 19, 2009 9:50:26 GMT -5
I complain about a lot and I am making the product look like shit lol, but I still find it entertaining and would rather watch it than baseball or the Maple Laffs right now. Once basketball stars I will probably cut down on watching it unless it starts to get spiced up.
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Post by Pacman on Oct 19, 2009 9:51:02 GMT -5
Lol I remember ravens flock..
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 19, 2009 9:51:53 GMT -5
Well Cena is the biggest draw in terms of people cheering for him and buying his shit, because the era is now the PG Era (lol) so all the kids buy his shit. Jeff Hardy was probably the most over face in the business until he left, Orton, CM Punk and Jericho are the best heels and Miz catches solid heat too as a mid-carder. I used to hate Jeff Hardy and thought it was pretty stupid to break him and Matt up from their early days and let them go solo. They were shitty solo characters. Matt Hardy Version 1?! WTF was that about?! Lita ftw! Didn't even know Jeff Hardy was back in WWE, thought he was on drugs or something and they banned him back in the day, no? Hardy Boys vs Edge and Christian... those were the days lol.
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Post by travesy3 on Oct 19, 2009 9:52:06 GMT -5
Ya exactly factions/stables were awesome back in the day... now a days no one ever gets fucked over. How can you draw heat if all the matches are cleanly won and lost lol. The biggest stars are built through factions with the exception of guys like Stone Cold, hell even Rock and Triple H came from factions, and HBK came from a tag team.
The WWE is just so dumb right now and it is annoying how it is the same old shit most the time, especially on Raw, Smackdown is really good right now.
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 19, 2009 9:52:55 GMT -5
Lol I remember ravens flock.. Raven was sick. Saturn was too! Rings of Saturn ftw! Shame WWE had to fuck up his character with that stupid Mop. They turned him into Al Head... sigh.
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Post by travesy3 on Oct 19, 2009 9:53:53 GMT -5
Ya Hardy was the only guy who got cheered by kids and adults, Cena only gets cheered by kids and women.
He has gotten 2 strieks on the drug policy, then his contract ran out and he wanted to take a break. 2 days later he was arrested for possession and distrubition of all sorts of prescription drugs and shit lol.
They offered him the biggest and best deal in the entire WWE to stay, all he had to do was TV events, 4 days a month no house events but he turned it down.... Vince was probably pissed and had cops search his house and arrest his ass.
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Post by travesy3 on Oct 19, 2009 9:54:35 GMT -5
Hardy was sick though, he actually put on great matches... he may not have been a great 'wrestler' but he was an awesome performer. No one on the roster would take the risks and bumps that he did.
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Post by sti11in5ane on Oct 19, 2009 9:54:59 GMT -5
you right about MVP being underrated, int he ring, he is a student of Chris Benoit his ring work got 10x better after Benoit trained him.
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 19, 2009 9:55:12 GMT -5
Ya exactly factions/stables were awesome back in the day... now a days no one ever gets fucked over. How can you draw heat if all the matches are cleanly won and lost lol. The biggest stars are built through factions with the exception of guys like Stone Cold, hell even Rock and Triple H came from factions, and HBK came from a tag team. The WWE is just so dumb right now and it is annoying how it is the same old shit most the time, especially on Raw, Smackdown is really good right now. Maybe it's just the core fan base of WWE? It was most successful in the early 00's late 90's when WCW was thriving off the nWo angle then WWF retaliated with DX etc, but now the people that loved that era have grown up and kinda moved on. This generation has a lot to live up to I guess and it's hard to attract new fans.
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Post by sti11in5ane on Oct 19, 2009 9:55:41 GMT -5
Hardy was sick though, he actually put on great matches... he may not have been a great 'wrestler' but he was an awesome performer. No one on the roster would take the risks and bumps that he did. he was a good SPOT wrestler, he lived for the big spots is all. But very entertaining to bad the guy is fucked up worse then Scott Hall
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