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Post by Sheryl Yoast on Feb 17, 2008 19:20:42 GMT -5
How in this crazy world which we live in would about 7 or 8 BBS gms only not survive in NBN? What the hell are you talking about? This is not american gladiators, you make no fucking sense in any logic through out this thread. For instance, if you can "survive" in NBN, I am pretty sure that Mark, Aaron, Myself, Pig, Hernando, Scott, Galo, even martinez survive in NBN. (If i forgot anyone, my bad). It does not make sense to me that you are saying all these bbs gms are horrible gms. Really? No offense to you Dan or any of those GMs, but I don't think so. (btw I menioned Galo and Hernando as probablies). I can't even survive there. That is 7 BBS Championships between those 8 gm's.
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Post by Spencer on Feb 17, 2008 19:21:26 GMT -5
Im so sick of peoples fascination with "tanking". Guess what, just because you dont like it doesnt mean it isnt a valid way to win long term. We have a rule called The Contract year" and its sole purpose is to eliminate Gms that cant win. Im sick of the bickering over how people go about putting a good team together.
I can understand the frustration if a team plays a crap DC and losses with talent.
But if a team trades away everyone, and just sucks, then I have no problem with it.
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Post by Spencer on Feb 17, 2008 19:29:26 GMT -5
I can udnerstand you saying, hey, I think its the wron way to go about it. But it isnt cheating, and it isnt circumventing rules, so whats the problem? This is the kinda stuff where it seems like it could just be let go. It isnt a personal thing, its just a difference of opinions.
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Post by Dave on Feb 17, 2008 19:54:10 GMT -5
I think tanking is when you continually lose when you could win more. Whether that be from making bad DC's or not going after free agents that could help your team when you have cap.
If your team sucks and you lose. Then thats where you are at and you are rebuilding. If a team decides to trade away its players for picks you might say he is tanking but I think the GM is choosing that he wants to rebuild.
I do think there is a difference from rebuilding and tanking and those would be my understandings of the difference between the two.
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Post by Outlawz on Feb 17, 2008 23:40:37 GMT -5
Ok, so based on your logic anyone whose in the lotto is tanking? So i guess everyone in the league tanks. Please solidify your argument with better points. I was supposed to land the 5th pick. My team was not horrible. I got lucky.. Ok? That's part of the game. Check my teams in bbs 1 and 2 all built through trades. So again work on getting actual facts then pullin shit out your ass. I didnt draft kobe, parker, darko, Curry, or ricky davis. But your right i only built one of the greatest teams ever by just drafting guys. It's a fact that it's easier to win in the beggining i just feel it's more rewarding to win later on. It's my opinion. I can't have my own opinion? That bet only applied if you and Martinez were in it. I mean you can read right? I like this bet better. You down or not? You know whats laughable? When you dont have your own pick and you let someone else land a top pick. Your a top gm, champ. A top pick? Hardly. I won 36 games in a stacked conference with my 2nd best player injured the whole season. It's funny that you ask if I can read...look at the bold. You write well. Anyway, I don't really feel like addressing anything you said because it's all bullshit. Did you tank at the beginning of the last BBS? Yes or no question, and the answer's yes, and did draft top picks through tanking. I don't care about what Martinez says. If you don't win 50, you quit. Im tired of the bs. Just get off my dick. First off you aint no one if Martinez aint in it then the bet means nothing to me. If im such a bad gm then i should just quit. I dont like Will didn't like how he quit but i can clearly understand why there's little bitches like you around. Build a constant winner then come talk to me if not just shut the fuck up. If im so bad then start a poll and if people want me out i'll quit. This is why i stopped posting and why i'll probably not earn any more rc's. Too many annoying guys like you who think they know something and haven't proven shit. I really dont care anymore. Take my bet or not or start a poll. It's getting annoyin already.
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Post by Sheryl Yoast on Feb 17, 2008 23:46:08 GMT -5
Outlawz is the tits.
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Post by Funky George! on Feb 18, 2008 0:14:23 GMT -5
A top pick? Hardly. I won 36 games in a stacked conference with my 2nd best player injured the whole season. It's funny that you ask if I can read...look at the bold. You write well. Anyway, I don't really feel like addressing anything you said because it's all bullshit. Did you tank at the beginning of the last BBS? Yes or no question, and the answer's yes, and did draft top picks through tanking. I don't care about what Martinez says. If you don't win 50, you quit. Im tired of the bs. Just get off my dick. First off you aint no one if Martinez aint in it then the bet means nothing to me. If im such a bad gm then i should just quit. I dont like Will didn't like how he quit but i can clearly understand why there's little bitches like you around. Build a constant winner then come talk to me if not just shut the fuck up. If im so bad then start a poll and if people want me out i'll quit. This is why i stopped posting and why i'll probably not earn any more rc's. Too many annoying guys like you who think they know something and haven't proven shit. I really dont care anymore. Take my bet or not or start a poll. It's getting annoyin already. Take your bet? We had a bet. Just stick to it. Don't call me a no one as your excuse to not take a bet. Stop with the tough guy personna. I don't like the method of not competing for a few seasons in order to get good draft picks. I don't think there's any validity to it. I'm not going to address any of your tough guy lingo, because it's the internet, so really, it's completely pathetic. Either take the bet or don't, stop with the antics.
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Post by Dave on Feb 18, 2008 0:17:38 GMT -5
Im tired of the bs. Just get off my dick. First off you aint no one if Martinez aint in it then the bet means nothing to me. If im such a bad gm then i should just quit. I dont like Will didn't like how he quit but i can clearly understand why there's little bitches like you around. Build a constant winner then come talk to me if not just shut the fuck up. If im so bad then start a poll and if people want me out i'll quit. This is why i stopped posting and why i'll probably not earn any more rc's. Too many annoying guys like you who think they know something and haven't proven shit. I really dont care anymore. Take my bet or not or start a poll. It's getting annoyin already. Take your bet? We had a bet. Just stick to it. Don't call me a no one as your excuse to not take a bet. Stop with the tough guy personna. I don't like the method of not competing for a few seasons in order to get good draft picks. I don't think there's any validity to it. I'm not going to address any of your tough guy lingo, because it's the internet, so really, it's completely pathetic. Either take the bet or don't, stop with the antics. At least thats better than not competing for a few season and still sucking because they traded away all their draft picks trying to contend and failing at it
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Post by Funky George! on Feb 18, 2008 0:20:21 GMT -5
Take your bet? We had a bet. Just stick to it. Don't call me a no one as your excuse to not take a bet. Stop with the tough guy personna. I don't like the method of not competing for a few seasons in order to get good draft picks. I don't think there's any validity to it. I'm not going to address any of your tough guy lingo, because it's the internet, so really, it's completely pathetic. Either take the bet or don't, stop with the antics. At least thats better than not competing for a few season and still sucking because they traded away all their draft picks trying to contend and failing at it This happened to me?
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Post by Outlawz on Feb 18, 2008 0:53:36 GMT -5
You are nobody. Your an internet entity. Im not going with that bet because i want you and martinez gone so no point. We could bet money anything you want. 5 seasons, 10 season, 15 seasons. I will always be better than you. I aint trying to be a tough guy persona. If not we'll leave it at that.
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Post by Funky George! on Feb 18, 2008 0:57:06 GMT -5
You are nobody. Your an internet entity. Im not going with that bet because i want you and martinez gone so no point. We could bet money anything you want. 5 seasons, 10 season, 15 seasons. I will always be better than you. I aint trying to be a tough guy persona. If not we'll leave it at that. Makes no sense at all, but cool. Thanks for calling me an entity. Pretty sure I've been better than you the last two seasons--but oh, wait, I forgot, that doesn't count, because you're tanking. My bad.
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Post by Rocky on Feb 18, 2008 0:57:32 GMT -5
You are nobody. Your an internet entity. Im not going with that bet because i want you and martinez gone so no point. We could bet money anything you want. 5 seasons, 10 season, 15 seasons. I will always be better than you. I aint trying to be a tough guy persona. If not we'll leave it at that. I just want to quote this beause I never want to see the term "internet entity" lost. What the fuck does that even mean
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Post by Rocky on Feb 18, 2008 0:59:52 GMT -5
By the way, bet 5 seasons. That's easy.
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Post by Outlawz on Feb 18, 2008 1:01:47 GMT -5
What else can you can call someone i've never met and that i dont care for? All ya can get in it. Put money down. Im down.
Laughable that you would even bring up the last 2 seasons. Did you even have your own pick this season?
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Post by Outlawz on Feb 18, 2008 1:05:08 GMT -5
Anyone else that wanna get in this. Fuck it. I want a reason to leave. Heres ya chance.
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Post by Dave on Feb 18, 2008 1:08:12 GMT -5
What else can you can call someone i've never met and that i dont care for? All ya can get in it. Put money down. Im down. Laughable that you would even bring up the last 2 seasons. Did you even have your own pick this season? I've been all for putting money down for a long time that would be awesome and a great way to give back to spence. I had everything down to a science from player incentives like all stars and dunk champs etc. That would also make free agency a hell of a lot more fun.
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Post by Rocky on Feb 18, 2008 1:10:35 GMT -5
What else can you can call someone i've never met and that i dont care for? All ya can get in it. Put money down. Im down. Laughable that you would even bring up the last 2 seasons. Did you even have your own pick this season? It's not "internet entity". That seriously makes no sense at all.
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Post by Funky George! on Feb 18, 2008 1:14:08 GMT -5
What else can you can call someone i've never met and that i dont care for? All ya can get in it. Put money down. Im down. Laughable that you would even bring up the last 2 seasons. Did you even have your own pick this season? See, it's laughable, because you've been so busy not giving a shit and waiting for great players to fall into your lap. Try to defend that. I didn't have my pick because I don't want to be a hypocrite iike Krupinski. Win or lose, I can't be accused of acting one way because I have my first. Do I have firsts from other teams? Yes. Would I have made the playoffs if Zeljko was healthy? I guarantee it. I was red hot until he went down. You were busy waiting on a top draft pick, but yeah, four seasons from now when Wade and Chandler are studs, I'm sure it will validate you as a GM.
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Post by Dave on Feb 18, 2008 1:41:09 GMT -5
What else can you can call someone i've never met and that i dont care for? All ya can get in it. Put money down. Im down. Laughable that you would even bring up the last 2 seasons. Did you even have your own pick this season? See, it's laughable, because you've been so busy not giving a shit and waiting for great players to fall into your lap. Try to defend that. I didn't have my pick because I don't want to be a hypocrite iike Krupinski. Win or lose, I can't be accused of acting one way because I have my first. Do I have firsts from other teams? Yes. Would I have made the playoffs if Zeljko was healthy? I guarantee it. I was red hot until he went down. You were busy waiting on a top draft pick, but yeah, four seasons from now when Wade and Chandler are studs, I'm sure it will validate you as a GM. I think a good GM would have played Marc Jackson instead of not even changing their DC when they traded for him. Maybe then you could have made the playoffs
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Post by James on Feb 18, 2008 1:59:16 GMT -5
This whole argument is terrible, Outlawz, please ignore Aaron.
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Post by Spencer on Feb 18, 2008 3:03:54 GMT -5
This is why, right here, some people hate BBS. And it really annoys me.
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Post by dj on Feb 18, 2008 3:10:29 GMT -5
This is why, right here, some people hate BBS. And it really annoys me. some people hate bbs?
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Post by Dave on Feb 18, 2008 3:15:36 GMT -5
i agreed and gotten along with with dj, outlawz, and james today....what is going on?
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Post by Funky George! on Feb 18, 2008 9:21:48 GMT -5
This whole argument is terrible, Outlawz, please ignore Aaron. I love this. I get accused of being on a high horse for making jokes, and James goes around making statements like this.
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Post by Funky George! on Feb 18, 2008 9:23:56 GMT -5
See, it's laughable, because you've been so busy not giving a shit and waiting for great players to fall into your lap. Try to defend that. I didn't have my pick because I don't want to be a hypocrite iike Krupinski. Win or lose, I can't be accused of acting one way because I have my first. Do I have firsts from other teams? Yes. Would I have made the playoffs if Zeljko was healthy? I guarantee it. I was red hot until he went down. You were busy waiting on a top draft pick, but yeah, four seasons from now when Wade and Chandler are studs, I'm sure it will validate you as a GM. I think a good GM would have played Marc Jackson instead of not even changing their DC when they traded for him. Maybe then you could have made the playoffs Think you just won 14 games and gave away every decent player you had for a draft pick after attacking every team that lost games. Kind of a change in tone and attitude. I'm sure had you not done this, I'd hear differently from you. I'm also sure if I had voted for your article, I'd hear differently from you. Right?
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