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Post by Rocky on Mar 10, 2008 16:26:31 GMT -5
Was pretty conservative with my offers should have been a little more agresive. Nets are looking good. Luck or not still a good team. I guess I'm going to be in a similar situation to the ones you've been in, Outlawz. People tainted your success by saying tank/lotto luck, and now I've got three big guns in FA. But just like you (who argued that you didn't win purely off of the guys you picked, you made key trades), I got Kobe, and don't have Manu or AK on my roster anymore. I plan on dealing Rip for help as well. Also, had I not dealt off Manu and AK, I wouldn't have had the cap space to max Rip. Great work by NJ, Mark, they're just jealous. |
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Post by aar on Mar 10, 2008 16:36:11 GMT -5
I love how people are saying my deals are horrible.
Look at my roster!
My two oldest players are Wally and Terry at age 26 and the team is laced with future stars
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Post by DB on Mar 10, 2008 16:36:40 GMT -5
I wish i overpaid, next year will be better.
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Post by Rocky on Mar 10, 2008 16:36:48 GMT -5
Pau is definitely good. Aside from that, I think you have a very biased perspective on your team's future.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Mar 10, 2008 16:43:08 GMT -5
I planned on maxing Q-Rich anyhow, so I figured that I'd throw a few more max offers out there. Odom bit on the max offer, so I end up getting two big name FAs. Q-Rich proved his worth this year, is 23 and still has "A" potential. He'll be 29 when his contract ends, which is no big deal Q-Rich is going to be pretty much unmovable... at least your happy with him though |
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Post by Funky George! on Mar 10, 2008 16:57:56 GMT -5
If you think Mark landing Rip is luck, think again.
Put it like this this:
Mark deals for Kobe AND gains cap space. That's an ubelievable move for any franchise. Means you add a top talent and get more flexible.
Then Mark, with one of the highest win ratings in FA, gets Rip because of his cap space and high win rating. There's no luck in that. It's shrewd.
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Post by noves on Mar 10, 2008 16:58:58 GMT -5
3 firsts pyrzbilla is all yours Suck a dick. |
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Post by Ducky on Mar 10, 2008 16:59:14 GMT -5
If you think Mark landing Rip is luck, think again. Put it like this this: Mark deals for Kobe AND gains cap space. That's an ubelievable move for any franchise. Means you add a top talent and get more flexible. Then Mark, with one of the highest win ratings in FA, gets Rip because of his cap space and high win rating. There's no luck in that. It's shrewd. He's actually right ^ Mark deserves an A+. |
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Post by noves on Mar 10, 2008 17:05:20 GMT -5
Yeah, Mark definitely made a very smart move with that deal.
I'm just saying, getting basically 3 of the top FA's to ever hit the market is pretty lucky.
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Post by Ebener 12 on Mar 10, 2008 17:21:34 GMT -5
I agree with Mark, none of these teams will be crippled, the max contract isn't monumental right now.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Mar 10, 2008 17:21:46 GMT -5
If you think Mark landing Rip is luck, think again. Put it like this this: Mark deals for Kobe AND gains cap space. That's an ubelievable move for any franchise. Means you add a top talent and get more flexible. Then Mark, with one of the highest win ratings in FA, gets Rip because of his cap space and high win rating. There's no luck in that. It's shrewd. I guess you can't put too much stock into Rip's 99 loyalty rating. I've always questioned the important of those ratings... seem pretty much worthless. |
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Post by Funky George! on Mar 10, 2008 17:22:45 GMT -5
If you think Mark landing Rip is luck, think again. Put it like this this: Mark deals for Kobe AND gains cap space. That's an ubelievable move for any franchise. Means you add a top talent and get more flexible. Then Mark, with one of the highest win ratings in FA, gets Rip because of his cap space and high win rating. There's no luck in that. It's shrewd. I guess you can't put too much stock into Rip's 99 loyalty rating. I've always questioned the important of those ratings... seem pretty much worthless. High winning, high greed, high loyalty will result probably in the highest offer from the highest team. Did you match Mark's offer? If you did then it would surprise me that he left. |
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Post by Ebener 12 on Mar 10, 2008 17:23:37 GMT -5
I think the creator of FBB said that those numbers are almost completely meaningless.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Mar 10, 2008 17:23:45 GMT -5
My offer was slightly better... 10.5% increases to his 10.0%.
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Post by Ebener 12 on Mar 10, 2008 17:24:17 GMT -5
Well did you offer 7 years?
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Post by Dave on Mar 10, 2008 17:25:36 GMT -5
3 firsts pyrzbilla is all yours Suck a dick. want him back? |
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Post by Funky George! on Mar 10, 2008 17:25:37 GMT -5
My offer was slightly better... 10.5% increases to his 10.0%. Wow, well then, whatever, good for Mark. |
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Post by Dave on Mar 10, 2008 17:26:48 GMT -5
Odom's 81 loyalty and low greed didn't result in a last chance offer from him which I expected.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Mar 10, 2008 17:27:00 GMT -5
I think the creator of FBB said that those numbers are almost completely meaningless. I seem to remember reading that as well. I've seen this type of thing happen in FBB so I'm not totally surprised. |
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Mar 10, 2008 17:36:00 GMT -5
Well did you offer 7 years? nope... that probably would've sealed the deal but i didn't want to offer 20 mill, which is pretty much 1/4th of the maximum team salary (hard cap is 84 million), to a 30 year old 2nd option-type player in the 7th year of his deal. |
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Mar 10, 2008 17:37:04 GMT -5
Well did you offer 7 years? nope... that probably would've sealed the deal but i didn't want to offer 20 mill, which is pretty much 1/4th of the maximum team salary (hard cap is 84 million), to a 30 year old 2nd option-type player in the 7th year of his deal. |
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Post by aar on Mar 10, 2008 17:37:43 GMT -5
I planned on maxing Q-Rich anyhow, so I figured that I'd throw a few more max offers out there. Odom bit on the max offer, so I end up getting two big name FAs. Q-Rich proved his worth this year, is 23 and still has "A" potential. He'll be 29 when his contract ends, which is no big deal Q-Rich is going to be pretty much unmovable... at least your happy with him though Moving a 21/7 23 year old with A potential - IMPOSSIBLE! If his name was Dwyane Wade and he was in his 4th year, nobody would say a word. People have got to remember that when a guy has "A" potential at age 23 and is averaging 21/7 that the fact his name is Quentin Richardson doesn't matter |
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Post by Ebener 12 on Mar 10, 2008 17:38:16 GMT -5
I think that was a huge and pretty dumb mistake (no offense). 23 teams had max cap space, and I would bet nearly every one of them maxed Rip, and with only 0.5% difference in an annual raise, it's basically the same and letting him walk. If your going to invest that much in a guy like Rip who has great value, then why not secure him with the 7th year that no one can offer?
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Post by Funky George! on Mar 10, 2008 17:41:09 GMT -5
Q-Rich is going to be pretty much unmovable... at least your happy with him though Moving a 21/7 23 year old with A potential - IMPOSSIBLE! If his name was Dwyane Wade and he was in his 4th year, nobody would say a word. People have got to remember that when a guy has "A" potential at age 23 and is averaging 21/7 that the fact his name is Quentin Richardson doesn't matter If he has good TCs, he'll be worth it. Right now he has C- handles and C defense. |
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Post by Rocky on Mar 10, 2008 17:43:43 GMT -5
The Rip stuff scares me, because I can't lose Kobe/Baron. Whatever, 7 years, max everything, should get it done.
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