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Post by Dave on Mar 13, 2008 19:53:28 GMT -5
We usually talk about this but no one started it up
Amare's outside went up with increased midrange jumpshot
Reggie Evans rebounding went up with strength increase
Hughes, Haslem, and Navarro remained the same.
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Post by Tigertecz on Mar 13, 2008 19:56:28 GMT -5
Most people already know about Redd's, but here it is for those who don't: Michael Redd SG 24 6'6'' 218 C+ A- C B+ C B Michael Redd SG 24 6'6'' 218 B- A- C A- C B Nice isn't it?  |
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Post by Dave on Mar 13, 2008 19:57:24 GMT -5
what did you upgrade him in?
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Post by nybombers3 on Mar 13, 2008 19:57:58 GMT -5
Redd sucks.
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Post by James on Mar 13, 2008 19:58:08 GMT -5
I'd say strength.
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Post by Sheryl Yoast on Mar 13, 2008 19:58:17 GMT -5
Ill tell you went up. My middle finger went up for the bullshit RC's. They never help. I swear to god everytime I use an RC Spence takes off 3 points. There not taking reward camp at your pub Spence.
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Post by Tigertecz on Mar 13, 2008 19:58:38 GMT -5
what did you upgrade him in? Strength. I wanted his inside scoring to go up, along with his defense, and I couldn't decide between inside scoring and stealing, so I just went with strength as it affects both ratings in different ways. |
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Post by Tigertecz on Mar 13, 2008 19:59:26 GMT -5
Zo > Diesel. GG, I win. Suck a nut. kthxbye |
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Post by Dave on Mar 13, 2008 20:00:09 GMT -5
That sick Tiger......Redd looks a lot better now evening our your deal which sent Shard because he looks beastly
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Mar 13, 2008 20:00:15 GMT -5
Redd looks nice...
I thought you actually gave up too much in that Shard/Boykins/Redd deal but Redd has improved alot since that period. Hopefully for your sake that translates into a better numbers for him.
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Post by noves on Mar 13, 2008 20:01:08 GMT -5
No changes ratings wise for my 3 guys.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Mar 13, 2008 20:01:50 GMT -5
btw, off-topic but when did posting for this season begin?
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Post by Tigertecz on Mar 13, 2008 20:03:43 GMT -5
Redd looks nice... I thought you actually gave up too much in that Shard/Boykins/Redd deal but Redd has improved alot since that period. Hopefully for your sake that translates into a better numbers for him. I gave up Shard (who decreased his outside the previous TC, so now that it's back up to a B+ just means he's recovering it, and that outside shot is a borderline B/B+) and a couple of my firsts, which I expect to be low. I don't see how that was a lot to be honest. And, at the time, I got a top five PG out of it. Sure, Boykins isn't as good now, but he doesn't turn the ball over much and does the fundamentals well enough for me. With Zo though, I don't think I need super scorers at the other positions, just surround him with talented players who can score when necessary, defend well, and not turn the ball over. I think I have that at the moment. One thing I think I'm missing is a shotblocking big at C. That would complement Zo's game even more. |
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Post by James on Mar 13, 2008 20:03:51 GMT -5
No changes ratings wise for my 3 guys. |
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Post by Dave on Mar 13, 2008 20:04:15 GMT -5
Well there are a few ways looking at RC's
1. The rating goes up and you really know where that player's rating is at borderline between what it was and is now
2. The rating didn't go up so he is either really weak in that rating and you solidified him or he is very strong and borderline to the next rating.
Obviously pending on what you upgrade there are a lot of variables as sometimes multiple ratings go into the grades we see.
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Post by Dave on Mar 13, 2008 20:07:22 GMT -5
Redd looks nice... I thought you actually gave up too much in that Shard/Boykins/Redd deal but Redd has improved alot since that period. Hopefully for your sake that translates into a better numbers for him. I gave up Shard (who decreased his outside the previous TC, so now that it's back up to a B+ just means he's recovering it, and that outside shot is a borderline B/B+) and a couple of my firsts, which I expect to be low. I don't see how that was a lot to be honest. And, at the time, I got a top five PG out of it. Sure, Boykins isn't as good now, but he doesn't turn the ball over much and does the fundamentals well enough for me. With Zo though, I don't think I need super scorers at the other positions, just surround him with talented players who can score when necessary, defend well, and not turn the ball over. I think I have that at the moment. One thing I think I'm missing is a shotblocking big at C. That would complement Zo's game even more. Boykins is so good because he is super quick. I think the same can be said or Juan Dixon. Speed changes handle, defense, and rebounding. I think better handles = better scoring too. |
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Post by noves on Mar 13, 2008 20:08:40 GMT -5
Yup, I'm still happy. I gave them upgrades where I felt they needed them at this juncture.
West's already a very solid player, so with 2 more RC's + more TC's, he could end up being a very nice player.
Barbosa's up in the air.
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Post by Funky George! on Mar 13, 2008 20:09:09 GMT -5
Redd looks nice... I thought you actually gave up too much in that Shard/Boykins/Redd deal but Redd has improved alot since that period. Hopefully for your sake that translates into a better numbers for him. I gave up Shard (who decreased his outside the previous TC, so now that it's back up to a B+ just means he's recovering it, and that outside shot is a borderline B/B+) and a couple of my firsts, which I expect to be low. I don't see how that was a lot to be honest. And, at the time, I got a top five PG out of it. Sure, Boykins isn't as good now, but he doesn't turn the ball over much and does the fundamentals well enough for me. With Zo though, I don't think I need super scorers at the other positions, just surround him with talented players who can score when necessary, defend well, and not turn the ball over. I think I have that at the moment. One thing I think I'm missing is a shotblocking big at C. That would complement Zo's game even more. Tiger, before you go after Shard and rip into his game, you might want to go check out his ratings. That fringe B outside shot? It's A-. He's much better than Redd. For Redd's ratings, he's completely unproductive. |
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Post by Funky George! on Mar 13, 2008 20:10:07 GMT -5
I gave up Shard (who decreased his outside the previous TC, so now that it's back up to a B+ just means he's recovering it, and that outside shot is a borderline B/B+) and a couple of my firsts, which I expect to be low. I don't see how that was a lot to be honest. And, at the time, I got a top five PG out of it. Sure, Boykins isn't as good now, but he doesn't turn the ball over much and does the fundamentals well enough for me. With Zo though, I don't think I need super scorers at the other positions, just surround him with talented players who can score when necessary, defend well, and not turn the ball over. I think I have that at the moment. One thing I think I'm missing is a shotblocking big at C. That would complement Zo's game even more. Boykins is so good because he is super quick. I think the same can be said or Juan Dixon. Speed changes handle, defense, and rebounding. I think better handles = better scoring too. Lots of guys have high speed and are turnover machines. Make no mistake, he's got very good handling ratings, not just speed. |
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Mar 13, 2008 20:10:53 GMT -5
Redd looks nice... I thought you actually gave up too much in that Shard/Boykins/Redd deal but Redd has improved alot since that period. Hopefully for your sake that translates into a better numbers for him. I gave up Shard (who decreased his outside the previous TC, so now that it's back up to a B+ just means he's recovering it, and that outside shot is a borderline B/B+) and a couple of my firsts, which I expect to be low. I don't see how that was a lot to be honest. And, at the time, I got a top five PG out of it. Sure, Boykins isn't as good now, but he doesn't turn the ball over much and does the fundamentals well enough for me. With Zo though, I don't think I need super scorers at the other positions, just surround him with talented players who can score when necessary, defend well, and not turn the ball over. I think I have that at the moment. One thing I think I'm missing is a shotblocking big at C. That would complement Zo's game even more. Well at the time, Shard was looking like a great prospect. On the contrary Redd had pretty much been a failure leading up that point. Boykins was nice but at the time I didn't know you'd deal for Zo (you can go back to the thread as a reference) so I was a little less uncertain about the value of the picks then you were. Also, I disagree that Boykins was a top 5 PG. The AST/TO ratio was nice but regardless they were still a 37 win team in the weaker conference. Marbury led Minnesota to 47 wins in the league's 2nd second season in the tougher conference (at the time) without much more talent yet he was probably the 4th or 5th best PG at best. |
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Post by Dave on Mar 13, 2008 20:11:07 GMT -5
who do you think has blazing speed like Boykins? I have to imagine Boykins and Dixon are 99 in speed
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Mar 13, 2008 20:12:14 GMT -5
Boykins is so good because he is super quick. I think the same can be said or Juan Dixon. Speed changes handle, defense, and rebounding. I think better handles = better scoring too. Lots of guys have high speed and are turnover machines. Make no mistake, he's got very good handling ratings, not just speed. I agree with that... you don't average nearly 9 apg strictly on speed. |
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Post by Dave on Mar 13, 2008 20:12:27 GMT -5
Kidd, Payton, Nash, Marbury, Williams, BD, Bibby, Dre Miller are all better than Boykins
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Post by Funky George! on Mar 13, 2008 20:16:49 GMT -5
Kidd, Payton, Nash, Marbury, Williams, BD, Bibby, Dre Miller are all better than Boykins Boykins was top five efficiency, and third team All-League. But the B- defense is a big setback. Still, he was as productive as anyone. |
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Mar 13, 2008 20:18:51 GMT -5
JO was third team All-League over Webber... i can't take those awards too seriously
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