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Post by duceisinmyheart on Mar 15, 2008 10:45:48 GMT -5
to not allowing any loopholes but your allowing a gm in the league to post and make deals for another gms team? unreal. i dont care about leaving forever now anymore
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Post by Spencer on Mar 15, 2008 10:49:34 GMT -5
If both GMs agree, what should I do about it? Tell Dave not to post them himself? I cant tell all GMs that they have to ignore Dave. Sometimes people get ideas from other GMs.
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Post by Funky George! on Mar 15, 2008 10:59:33 GMT -5
Spence, it was bullshit. It was complete fucking bullshit, and the deal should be voided no matter what becaus of that. If a GM wants to cheat and orchistrate a deal for two other teams behind the scenes, but if he has the balls to post it? That's bullshit. I have no idea how Dave felt that was appropriate or ethical as far trading in BBS goes, but I really don't understand why it went through. Nothing against you, but that move by Dave was fucking absurd, and I really think it shouldn't be approved.
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Post by Funky George! on Mar 15, 2008 11:01:27 GMT -5
Is Dave doing all this to spite Martinez? Is that what's going on? If that is actually the case, I'm going to quit if these deals go through. One competitive loser begins violating league rules to be spiteful, makes deal for other teams, and they go through? Seriously? Wow.
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Post by Funky George! on Mar 15, 2008 11:06:21 GMT -5
And then Dave threatens me to just wait until I'm in my contract year (not gonna happen, you tanking piece of shit). So what he's gonna take control of another team and try to send me out? K, JohnnyJungle the egomaniac can now GM more than one team? Does he think this is like a Yahoo fantasy league and he has two accounts?
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Post by noves on Mar 15, 2008 11:07:32 GMT -5
Spence, it was bullshit. It was complete fucking bullshit, and the deal should be voided no matter what becaus of that. If a GM wants to cheat and orchistrate a deal for two other teams behind the scenes, but if he has the balls to post it? That's bullshit. I have no idea how Dave felt that was appropriate or ethical as far trading in BBS goes, but I really don't understand why it went through. Nothing against you, but that move by Dave was fucking absurd, and I really think it shouldn't be approved. Completely agree. That's absolute bullshit, and I really think those deals should not have gone in.
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Post by Skillz on Mar 15, 2008 11:09:17 GMT -5
this should be interesting...
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Post by Spencer on Mar 15, 2008 11:11:07 GMT -5
If people dont want to listen to Dave, they dont have to.
The deals should be voided? Both GMs agreed.
If this wasnt Dave it wouldnt matter.
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Post by Spencer on Mar 15, 2008 11:14:00 GMT -5
If people want to quit over this, no offense, feel free. I don't have a problem with what happened, and like I said, if it was someone other then Dave there wouldn't even be a post about it.
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Post by noves on Mar 15, 2008 11:14:21 GMT -5
If Dave wants to help them work out deals, that's fine, but having him post them is my primary issue. I think that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in sims.
I'm not saying they should be voided, but IMO, Dave should at least be punished for it, maybe in form of losing RC's(I know he will laugh at this), I dunno, but something should be done because it is not at all right.
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Post by Spencer on Mar 15, 2008 11:15:59 GMT -5
If Dave wants to help them work out deals, that's fine, but having him post them is my primary issue. I think that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in sims. I'm not saying they should be voided, but IMO, Dave should at least be punished for it in form of losing RC's(I know he will laugh at this), because it is not at all right. I Pmd Dave to not post the deals. Although it doesn't matter. I mean hes obviously gonna be talking to GMs and trying to get them to make trades. I think some people in this sim are a little too quick to cry about stuff. Hopefully that will change soon.
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Post by Aaron2344 on Mar 15, 2008 11:16:36 GMT -5
I have posted deals for other teams when they asked.
But what Dave is doing is so gay, trying to sabotage a GM, haha.
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Post by Spencer on Mar 15, 2008 11:16:47 GMT -5
Once again, the only necessity of a trade to be accepted is confirmation by both teams.
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Post by Aaron2344 on Mar 15, 2008 11:17:18 GMT -5
I have posted deals for other teams when they asked. But what Dave is doing is so gay, trying to sabotage a GM, haha. and I think that's what is being complained about, posting a deal for another gm...i half read this thing, so i might be completely off
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Post by Spencer on Mar 15, 2008 11:17:23 GMT -5
I have posted deals for other teams when they asked. But what Dave is doing is so gay, trying to sabotage a GM, haha. I think its more gay that Dave has as much power as he does if so many people dislike him.
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Post by noves on Mar 15, 2008 11:18:04 GMT -5
I'm not crying, I think it's just a ridiculous notion that another GM can post a deal for two other GM's when he's not in it. If he wants to talk to them and get them to deals, fine, but having him post them is ludicrous.
I'm sure Aaron & I won't be the only ones to take issue with this either.
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Post by Spencer on Mar 15, 2008 11:18:07 GMT -5
This problem is overrated.
Make your team better and it wont matter!
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Post by Spencer on Mar 15, 2008 11:18:51 GMT -5
I'm not crying, I think it's just a ridiculous notion that another GM can post a deal for two other GM's when he's not in it. If he wants to talk to them and get them to deals, fine, but having him post them is ludicrous. I'm sure Aaron & I won't be the only ones to take issue with this either. I PMd Dave not to post deals. I guess we can still continue to talk about this though since its so throughly enjoyable.
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Post by noves on Mar 15, 2008 11:19:57 GMT -5
It has nothing to do with my team, my team's not in the same conference, I just take issue with it.
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Post by Spencer on Mar 15, 2008 11:22:06 GMT -5
It has nothing to do with my team, my team's not in the same conference, I just take issue with it. Nothing I said was directed at you, Im making generalizations. This problem is overrated. If people have problems with someone trying to "sabotage" them, they need to step it up and make some trades to get better. As far as people disliking Dave, thats cool. I just think its the flavor of the week. Everyone hates Dave now, about 2 months ago everyone hated Chris. Whatever.
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Post by Spencer on Mar 15, 2008 11:30:21 GMT -5
Also, I like everyone here. I like the GM core we have, and wouldn't want to change it by choice. But please, please, please, don't threaten to quit. If you want to quit, okay. Thats fine. Sad to see you go, but if this isn't fun for you, Id understand if you left. But please don't say I'm gonna quit if this happens, or I'm gonna quit if this doesn't happen.I hate when people threaten quitting and I'm pretty sure Ive shared these sentiments before.
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Post by Funky George! on Mar 15, 2008 11:49:25 GMT -5
If people want to quit over this, no offense, feel free. I don't have a problem with what happened, and like I said, if it was someone other then Dave there wouldn't even be a post about it. Give me a break, you can't seriously believe that. He's openly stated he's doing this to take down Martinez, and you think it's not a problem that a guy takes control of another team and starts making deals when he has his own agenda in it? Forget the agenda, you think it's ok for a guy to run two teams? You're not gonna say anything to Blue? To Dave? It completely undermines the expected fairness of the league. 100%. You have a guy making threats to take down guys in their contract year by taking hold of other GMs' teams, and it's not a big deal? You really think it's a personal thing against Dave? No, Spence. That's a crock of shit. Dave makes everything person, but it could be anyone and I'd be as pissed. It so happens he's the same guy Dan, Mark, Martinez, Nova and countless other guys continuously IM me to complain about or openly hate, but no, it has nothing to do with that. Look at it objectively. You want a league where a guy can make trades as two teams? Really?
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Mar 15, 2008 11:53:07 GMT -5
If you want to 'reprimand' me go ahead. Dave came up to me with about the idea of the trade, and I liked it... what did you want me to do? I could have easily objected to it if I didn't like the deal.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Mar 15, 2008 11:55:12 GMT -5
If people want to quit over this, no offense, feel free. I don't have a problem with what happened, and like I said, if it was someone other then Dave there wouldn't even be a post about it. Give me a break, you can't seriously believe that. He's openly stated he's doing this to take down Martinez, and you think it's not a problem that a guy takes control of another team and starts making deals when he has his own agenda in it? Forget the agenda, you think it's ok for a guy to run two teams? You're not gonna say anything to Blue? To Dave? It completely undermines the expected fairness of the league. 100%. You have a guy making threats to take down guys in their contract year by taking hold of other GMs' teams, and it's not a big deal? You really think it's a personal thing against Dave? No, Spence. That's a crock of shit. Dave makes everything person, but it could be anyone and I'd be as pissed. It so happens he's the same guy Dan, Mark, Martinez, Nova and countless other guys continuously IM me to complain about or openly hate, but no, it has nothing to do with that. Look at it objectively. You want a league where a guy can make trades as two teams? Really? Exactly, it's not about giving ideas. I give ideas all the time, but Dave went out and posted a deal. HE POSTED A DEAL FOR TWO OTHER TEAMS? What is the point of that? Seriously, Spencer? That's like Mark Cuban making a deal for San Antonio to spite Pheonix, that is absured. So you mean to tell me, if I make a trade on behalf of Orlando with Philadelphia, that's ok? That is bullshit. I could give two fucks if it were Dave, you, Nova, or whomever the fuck. This is abusing a "loophole" something you said you were going to eliminate. It's fine, you can do what you want, but if you think it's "not a big deal" then I guess we have a problem, because everyone who's posted in here so far doesn't find this to be correct.
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Post by GMGreggor on Mar 15, 2008 11:55:25 GMT -5
Well, as far as posting the deals I'm inclined to agree. Nobody should post other people's deals unless they are asked to because of computer problems etc.
However, if Chris does'nt like what Dave is doing he can take measures to make his team better. There's a definate personality conflict there but ultimately it's up to Martinez to make sure his team gets to the playoffs for the bet irregardless of what Dave does.
Thats the only surefire way to combat that.
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