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Post by Rocky on Apr 10, 2008 17:58:02 GMT -5
Where are you getting this ten question to three or four guys bullshit from? Congrats, you did that one. They pretty much never are like that. That is an exception, not the norm. I think that is pretty clear, and it's silly to me that you keep referencing that. I posted a poll a month ago where the majority wanted it reduced. Spence said to me in a PM no more than an hour ago that it'd be up to me/the league. So, I made it a league vote. I had the option to not make it a league vote, and I did anyway. If you want to do the job, do the job. It doesn't matter to me. I'm not enforcing anything off of my own opinion; we're voting. To me, 7+ questions and then posting the answers from someone is a ten minute job. In your case, you spent more time. Good. Some articles take two hours, some take ten minutes. That's the variation that happens when the only requirement to getting 50 points is to post an article, regardless of its quality. I have sympathy for someone like James who spends an hour(s) on an article and gets rewarded with 50 points, and then another person who asks 7+ questions to one person and gets the same reward. Your article was not the norm, so stop referencing it as such. If it was the norm, this wouldn't even be an issue. You went above and beyond in the same way that James goes above and beyond. James would still get the same 50 point total, and you would get the same point total (in your "category"). FoF and Hot Seats promote activity, but it isn't exactly monumental. They're awesome, so I completely understand wanting to promote them. But at the same time, I'd rather reward time as opposed to the activity that an article produces. Articles are written for RCs, and RCs are for individuals. I don't like the idea that someone can spend substantially less time on something and still get the same numerical reward as James. I don't think it is right. BBS is going to be just as active no matter what.This is my opinion on it. I actually might not believe what I'm saying as strongly as it is coming off, it's just the way responses have been directed towards me that have caused me to respond in this manner. My opinion is that it should be 25. I don't really care if it is. I see the reasoning for 50, no doubt. If it is kept at 50, then that is the point total I'm giving to it. It's really not something that bothers me, but it is something worth putting to a vote because the LAST time it was put to a vote, people voted to change the total. This is exactly why I want/need everything to have a set total, regardless of what it is. You told me to use my discretion in your first post... no. This is the stuff that happens. People feel much more strongly on something when they can relate it to their own work, and I'm not going to deal with it. The bolded part is the reason why it's not a league matter and is really just something you disagree with and want to change. It's how you feel about the system, and the system works just fine as is, promoting guys to write articles which I find are always the most interesting thing in BBS when they come out. It's a league matter, and I have an opinion. The fact that the last time it was put to vote it was voted 10-6 to change the rule made it a league matter. I've said ten times, I don't care which we choose (I have an opinion obviously, but if it's 50/50 I won't care), I just want a set total.
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Post by Outlawz on Apr 10, 2008 18:45:28 GMT -5
If you start grading artitcles then do that with everyone. Not just the interview type of articles. I always did the hot seats because everyone says they love them and it promotes activity. Yes maybe i might not take as long as James has in an article but if my articles produce a better audience and activity i should get rewarded for that. ( take a little offense to it because up until lately i was mianly the guy that did these kind of articles now you come in and want to overcomplicate something that has been working perfectly from the beggining. What do you get? 2 rc's? for what? counting? You take the same amount of time that James probably spent on 1 article. I think you should get 50 pts too then. Let's start a poll on that. . Fuck it let's start grading everything. No offense i think your being a fag. I dont think anybody would have a problem with it being 50/50.
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Post by Outlawz on Apr 10, 2008 18:46:50 GMT -5
I think answering the questions involves a lot more work so I would say 25 for the questions, 50 for the answers. Funny because you would never take the time to actually write out the questions.. You said you wanted a hot seat and i told you to do one instead and you just didn't say anything after that.
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Post by Rocky on Apr 10, 2008 18:47:20 GMT -5
Ha, this thing takes a solid 2+ hours, you have no idea, it is awful.
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Post by Rocky on Apr 10, 2008 18:49:11 GMT -5
If you start grading artitcles then do that with everyone. Not just the interview type of articles. I always did the hot seats because everyone says they love them and it promotes activity. Yes maybe i might not take as long as James has in an article but if my articles produce a better audience and activity i should get rewarded for that. ( take a little offense to it because up until lately i was mianly the guy that did these kind of articles now you come in and want to overcomplicate something that has been working perfectly from the beggining. What do you get? 2 rc's? for what? counting? You take the same amount of time that James probably spent on 1 article. I think you should get 50 pts too then. Let's start a poll on that. . Fuck it let's start grading everything. No offense i think your being a fag. I dont think anybody would have a problem with it being 50/50. You don't think anybody would have a problem with it? Christ, how dense are you people being. I put it up to a vote! I said whatever the vote comes out to is fine! Statements like "I don't think anybody would have a problem with it being 50/50" is obviously stupid since some voted against it, but again, I do not CARE. You completely missed the point because you're ridiculously sensitive about the Hot Seats.
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Post by Rocky on Apr 10, 2008 18:51:38 GMT -5
Fuck it, someone else do the job. I'm not.
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Post by Outlawz on Apr 10, 2008 18:59:44 GMT -5
The fact that no one has ever questioned until you brung it up is just mighty gay by you. No one woudl have cared enough to bring it up I dont care what happens. I'll just write bullshit articles instead of hot seat's and just make it more complicated.
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Post by Rocky on Apr 10, 2008 19:00:41 GMT -5
Yeah, that'd make it more complicated. That makes sense.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Apr 10, 2008 19:25:46 GMT -5
^PM
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Post by Funky George! on Apr 10, 2008 19:29:54 GMT -5
Fuck it, someone else do the job. I'm not. Hhahahah, why? Because people disagree with you? It's not personal! You put it to vote, and the league is speaking. People are saying how they agree or disagree, and ultimately it comes down to the vote. BFD!
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Post by GMGreggor on Apr 10, 2008 19:35:36 GMT -5
50 each
Alright,who's up for a quiz?
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Post by DB on Apr 10, 2008 19:40:12 GMT -5
a quiz? what kind
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Apr 10, 2008 20:58:39 GMT -5
word
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Post by Dave on Apr 10, 2008 22:59:48 GMT -5
I think it should be 25/50. Its so easy to copy and paste and make it bold. Don't make it out to a difficult thing because its not. If you are putting in a great deal of work like I did with the around the horn and changing colors etc. than maybe there are exceptions but if you are just copy/paste and bold 25 all the way.
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Post by GMGreggor on Apr 11, 2008 9:32:10 GMT -5
Is there a limit to the number of interviews you could do?
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Apr 11, 2008 9:32:40 GMT -5
there shouldn't be
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Post by A2J on Apr 11, 2008 9:53:22 GMT -5
The only thing I find confusing about this thread is when people decided to start giving a fuck about James.
He's a floppy haired kangaroo fucker, it's cool if he spends 10+ hours writing an article that gets 25 RC points, IMHO.
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Post by Scott on Apr 11, 2008 13:40:17 GMT -5
I went with 50-50. I think the interviewer (especially in FoF) has a lot of organizational work to do. Like Aaron said, they have to come up with 10 questions beforehand and then put together a nice-looking article with all the responses. While the interviewees each definitely do 50 points worth of work, I think the interviewer spends about as much time as each interviewee in organizing the final product.
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Post by Vernon on Apr 11, 2008 16:07:20 GMT -5
Voted 50.
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Post by Dave on Apr 11, 2008 21:54:54 GMT -5
If you make it 50 points there should be a minimum requirements set as to appearance and # of questions
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Post by Tigertecz on Apr 12, 2008 4:53:33 GMT -5
The only thing I find confusing about this thread is when people decided to start giving a fuck about James. He's a floppy haired kangaroo fucker, it's cool if he spends 10+ hours writing an article that gets 25 RC points, IMHO.
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Post by Outlawz on Apr 15, 2008 3:10:49 GMT -5
50/50 wins
Case closed.
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