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Post by Spencer on Apr 17, 2008 15:05:28 GMT -5
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Post by DB on Apr 17, 2008 15:06:27 GMT -5
1 yard
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Apr 19, 2008 11:46:41 GMT -5
Yee Go Rams!!!!!
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Post by GMGreggor on Apr 19, 2008 12:08:14 GMT -5
Yea, I always liked Air McNair. One of the toughest QB's I've seen.
Used to take some hellacious hits and still hold onto the ball till the last milli-second the next play.
Caught up to him though.
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Apr 19, 2008 12:09:37 GMT -5
You are right, too much punishment throughout his career;
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Post by Gossip Girl on Apr 19, 2008 12:53:56 GMT -5
unforunately this is how his career is going to be define. Awesome QB, put his body on the line everyday for the team and one of the entrepreneurs of the mobile QB |
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Post by noves on Apr 19, 2008 13:01:59 GMT -5
Hell of a player.
The 1 yard Super Bowl is still the best I've ever seen, but the Pats-Giants one does come close, it was such a good game, and to this day I'm still pissed the Rams won.
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Post by GMGreggor on Apr 19, 2008 13:03:40 GMT -5
unforunately this is how his career is going to be define. Awesome QB, put his body on the line everyday for the team and one of the entrepreneurs of the mobile QB OK, I have to make a point. The mobile QB is not a new revelation. There's been guys in the past that have had the ability to scramble very well. Fran Tarkenton,Roger Staubach,Joe Gilliam,Bobby Douglas,Steve Young,Randall Cunninham,Joe Montana, hell Bradshaw when he was young was a scrambler just to name a few. The only difference is guys used to scramble around behind the line instead of taking off down the field, but Mcnair wasnt even one of the first to do that. I liked him but just grow weary of the "he was an innovator of the scrambler". He just was'nt. I dont know why the media acts like scrambling is a new revelation in the NFL but it's not. |
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Post by Gossip Girl on Apr 19, 2008 13:13:49 GMT -5
unforunately this is how his career is going to be define. Awesome QB, put his body on the line everyday for the team and one of the entrepreneurs of the mobile QB OK, I have to make a point. The mobile QB is not a new revelation. There's been guys in the past that have had the ability to scramble very well. Fran Tarkenton,Roger Staubach,Joe Gilliam,Bobby Douglas,Steve Young,Randall Cunninham,Joe Montana, hell Bradshaw when he was young was a scrambler just to name a few. The only difference is guys used to scramble around behind the line instead of taking off down the field, but Mcnair wasnt even one of the first to do that. I liked him but just grow weary of the "he was an innovator of the scrambler". He just was'nt. I dont know why the media acts like scrambling is a new revelation in the NFL but it's not. I am perfectly aware these QB's were able to move around. The revelation was, as you said, that QB's are advancing the ball down the field with their legs instead of their arms. The media makes a big deal out of it because it is fun to watch QB's make fools of defenses by running instead of throwing while throwing in the risk element of getting hurt. Also, today it is looked on as a negative to who a QB who isn't mobile whereas in the past it was a positive to have a mobile QB. |
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Post by Gossip Girl on Apr 19, 2008 13:14:21 GMT -5
he was just one of the best at doing it and you have to admit that
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Post by cjmjones008 on Apr 19, 2008 14:22:39 GMT -5
McNair was a good QB but was only capable of winning on his own for a season or two. He took a lot of punishment early on and hasn't been good since his Co-MVP season. I always liked him as a player, but there is no way he should be in the hall of fame.
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Post by lock on Apr 19, 2008 14:27:33 GMT -5
Bye Air McNair
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Post by GMGreggor on Apr 19, 2008 16:58:40 GMT -5
he was just one of the best at doing it and you have to admit that OK, I have to make a point. The mobile QB is not a new revelation. There's been guys in the past that have had the ability to scramble very well. Fran Tarkenton,Roger Staubach,Joe Gilliam,Bobby Douglas,Steve Young,Randall Cunninham,Joe Montana, hell Bradshaw when he was young was a scrambler just to name a few. The only difference is guys used to scramble around behind the line instead of taking off down the field, but Mcnair wasnt even one of the first to do that. I liked him but just grow weary of the "he was an innovator of the scrambler". He just was'nt. I dont know why the media acts like scrambling is a new revelation in the NFL but it's not. I am perfectly aware these QB's were able to move around. The revelation was, as you said, that QB's are advancing the ball down the field with their legs instead of their arms. The media makes a big deal out of it because it is fun to watch QB's make fools of defenses by running instead of throwing while throwing in the risk element of getting hurt. Also, today it is looked on as a negative to who a QB who isn't mobile whereas in the past it was a positive to have a mobile QB. He was an excellent running QB. I'm not disputing that at all. He just isnt an innovator because of his running ability is my point. There were many before him. I think having a QB with mobility has always been considered a positive. Most coaches still prefer their QB's to stay in the pocket first though to follow their reads where they are also more protected so I'm not sure where you're getting it's considered a negative if they cant run though. Lot of QB's still taken very high that cant run particularly well. A strong accurate arm is still the prerequisite for a QB I think. The biggest drawback to running QB's is if they dont follow the gameplan and are too quick to rely on their athletic skills. For all the talk of how great it is to have a mobile QB most SB's have been won by more traditional pocket passers like Brady,Manning etc. and there's a reason for that. If a QB does'nt follow his reads and takes off too early too often he demoralizes a team. The receivers give up on their routes because they know if he gets in trouble he is running anyway so whats the point? The defense knows what their offense is trying to do as well and to see a lot of sacks that constantly places them in bad field position from QB's trying to run too much is demoralizing also. McNair was good in one aspect in that he would look downfield first and would run if the play broke down which is what you want. As opposed to Michael Vick,who I think looks to run waay too soon. Is he exciting? Yes. Is he gonna win a SB doing that? No, I dont think so. |
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Post by cjmjones008 on Apr 20, 2008 8:29:49 GMT -5
you have to be in the NFL to win a Superbowl
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Post by GMGreggor on Apr 20, 2008 9:42:45 GMT -5
you have to be in the NFL to win a Superbowl He'll be back in a yr or 2 or as soon as he gets parole. If you dont think a team's gonna take a chance on him you're crazy. |
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Post by DB on Apr 20, 2008 11:55:20 GMT -5
hes been throwing the ball around in the yard! C'mon! He is starting a game vs the guards soon I hear too.
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