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Post by Rocky on Apr 3, 2008 16:33:56 GMT -5
Mate, I had the MVP. Kobe was not the MVP Kobe was the playoff MVP. I'll take that. Yeeee.
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Post by Funky George! on Apr 3, 2008 16:33:59 GMT -5
Between Kobe, Baron and Webb, one must've been Finals MVP, no? MVP > Finals MVP True. Regular season>Playoffs
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Post by Dave on Apr 3, 2008 16:37:16 GMT -5
True. Regular season>Playoffs not what I said you twat
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Post by A2J on Apr 3, 2008 16:37:24 GMT -5
Tiger has more invested in my eyes. The Nets will NOT lose both Kobe and Baron. One will definitely come back. I've rarely seen a superstar of their calibre leave a team before, and never have I seen two massive stars split in the same period. The odds are way too low.
On the other hand, it's possible that Tiger loses EITHER Redd of Marion. In which case, his team is absolutely fucked because of how much he gave up for Zo - he's essentially forced to trade whoever he gets back for his picks, if he can even get them, and if not, his team is going to be terrible with no flexibility to improve it.
Man, this contract year can be a bitch eh?
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Post by Funky George! on Apr 3, 2008 16:39:54 GMT -5
The way I see it is, Mark has more to lose. Tiger has a really mediocre team right now that could be worse if he loses his two guys. Mark has a championship winner that could fall apart. If Zo were in FA for Tiger, they'd probably have an equal amount to lose. But he's gone, so his team is pretty depleted as is.
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Post by Rocky on Apr 3, 2008 16:40:19 GMT -5
Kobe, Baron, and Webber are free agents. I have the most invested.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Apr 3, 2008 16:40:35 GMT -5
if Tiger loses both of those guy he will probably get fired because he will have nothing of value for a long time
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Post by Rocky on Apr 3, 2008 16:41:23 GMT -5
The way I see it is, Mark has more to lose. Tiger has a really mediocre team right now that could be worse if he loses his two guys. Mark has a championship winner that could fall apart. If Zo were in FA for Tiger, they'd probably have an equal amount to lose. But he's gone, so his team is pretty depleted as is. The Zo point is huge. If Zo was a FA, I'd agree.
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Post by Funky George! on Apr 3, 2008 16:41:27 GMT -5
True. Regular season>Playoffs not what I said you twat Grow up.
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Post by Tigertecz on Apr 3, 2008 16:41:33 GMT -5
At the end of the day, I made the right decision. I traded picks for the eventual MVP, and ended up in the Conference Finals in my contract year. Who the fuck could've predicted that he'd retire at 33, having just made a deep playoff run and won MVP at 33?
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Post by Dave on Apr 3, 2008 16:41:59 GMT -5
I think the Magic have the most to lose out of anyone.....Omar Cook, Frank Williams, Kenny Anderson....those 3 pg's could be the difference between 10 wins and 12 wins
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Post by Tigertecz on Apr 3, 2008 16:42:40 GMT -5
The way I see it is, Mark has more to lose. Tiger has a really mediocre team right now that could be worse if he loses his two guys. Mark has a championship winner that could fall apart. If Zo were in FA for Tiger, they'd probably have an equal amount to lose. But he's gone, so his team is pretty depleted as is. The Zo point is huge. If Zo was a FA, I'd agree. Yeah but the point is that Zo is now gone, meaning that it's even more important for me to sign Marion and Redd both back, just to get to a shell of what my team was before Zo retired.
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Post by Funky George! on Apr 3, 2008 16:43:02 GMT -5
I think the Magic have the most to lose out of anyone.....Omar Cook, Frank Williams, Kenny Anderson....those 3 pg's could be the difference between 10 wins and 12 wins Hysterical. Stop embarrassing yourself.
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Post by Rocky on Apr 3, 2008 16:43:54 GMT -5
At the end of the day, I made the right decision. I traded picks for the eventual MVP, and ended up in the Conference Finals in my contract year. Who the fuck could've predicted that he'd retire at 33, having just made a deep playoff run and won MVP at 33? Oh no doubt. The Zo move was outstanding. It's insane that he retired when he did. I'd make the move even if I knew he was retiring, because he made it so you no doubt kept your job.
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Post by Dave on Apr 3, 2008 16:45:03 GMT -5
I think the Magic have the most to lose out of anyone.....Omar Cook, Frank Williams, Kenny Anderson....those 3 pg's could be the difference between 10 wins and 12 wins Hysterical. Stop embarrassing yourself. Embarrassed by what? Stop thinking you're above everyone like some hoity toity faggot from Connecticut
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Apr 3, 2008 16:45:25 GMT -5
Tiger has 'less' in the FA pool but without Marion and Redd he has nothing of real value without any of his picks. Mark might have more to lose value-wise but Tiger NEEDS at least one of those guys back to have to have any chance of getting his picks back to build a team(he doesn't have a New Orleans first until '09)
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Post by Dave on Apr 3, 2008 16:45:43 GMT -5
At the end of the day, I made the right decision. I traded picks for the eventual MVP, and ended up in the Conference Finals in my contract year. Who the fuck could've predicted that he'd retire at 33, having just made a deep playoff run and won MVP at 33? Oh no doubt. The Zo move was outstanding. It's insane that he retired when he did. I'd make the move even if I knew he was retiring, because he made it so you no doubt kept your job. Kobe did the same thing to me in the first BBS retired at 34 after winning the title and mvp
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Post by Funky George! on Apr 3, 2008 16:46:45 GMT -5
Hysterical. Stop embarrassing yourself. Embarrassed by what? Stop thinking you're above everyone like some hoity toity faggot from Connecticut I don't think I'm above anyone. It's just, all you do is go after me in the most random situations when I legit don't do anything to you, and it's enough. How many times should I say it?
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Post by Tigertecz on Apr 3, 2008 16:46:58 GMT -5
At the end of the day, I made the right decision. I traded picks for the eventual MVP, and ended up in the Conference Finals in my contract year. Who the fuck could've predicted that he'd retire at 33, having just made a deep playoff run and won MVP at 33? Oh no doubt. The Zo move was outstanding. It's insane that he retired when he did. I'd make the move even if I knew he was retiring, because he made it so you no doubt kept your job. Actually, if I knew he was retiring at the end of this one season I probably wouldn't have made the move. I would've traded the same amount of picks etc for more than one other player, that would've given me 40 wins and avoided getting fired, then build a winning team slowly. I traded for Zo because I thought give my team that extra push to be a contender for the next 3 years at least.
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Post by Tigertecz on Apr 3, 2008 16:50:06 GMT -5
Tiger has 'less' in the FA pool but without Marion and Redd he has nothing of real value without any of his picks. Mark might have more to lose value-wise but Tiger NEEDS at least one of those guys back to have to have any chance of getting his picks back to build a team(he doesn't have a New Orleans first until '09) This is what I think too. But whatever, I took a risk where the odds of this happening were slim, but it happened anyway. I just got a bad beat that's all. If I have pocket aces and force someone else all inpre-flop, and he has kings, then I get nothing on the board but he gets another king, it was still the right move pre-flop.
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Post by A2J on Apr 3, 2008 16:50:32 GMT -5
Yeah the point about it is that Zo is already gone - that makes this FA period significantly more important for Tiger than if he hadn't retired and was in the FA class. Clearly Mark has more to lose, but the significance of him losing those pieces is smaller than the significance of Tiger losing his pieces. His team will be absolutely fucked if he can't get both back.
Which is a shame, cause I really like Tiger, but really want Marion.
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Post by Dave on Apr 3, 2008 16:50:52 GMT -5
Embarrassed by what? Stop thinking you're above everyone like some hoity toity faggot from Connecticut I don't think I'm above anyone. It's just, all you do is go after me in the most random situations when I legit don't do anything to you, and it's enough. How many times should I say it? Yea your right you never do anything when I misspell Brandan Wright's name you make smart ass comments like the player doesn't exist. Your shit doesn't stink. You never do anything to provoke shit. I can't to wipe the floor with you this season. If anyone is dumb enough to accept Al "bust" Jefferson, Jose Calderon and a bunch of your future firsts for anyone noteworty more power to you but news flash Jefferson will never be better than Joe Smith and Jose Calderon is your average point guard. You have nothing!
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Post by Rocky on Apr 3, 2008 16:52:16 GMT -5
Well, here is my opinion, and I really like Tiger so I'm NOT being a dick (or trying to be). If I lose one of my two, I go from championship contender to a good team. If Tiger loses one of his two, he goes from irrelevant to irrelevant in the championship picture.
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Post by Dave on Apr 3, 2008 16:52:24 GMT -5
I agree with everything everyone has said about Tiger's team its so vital he resigns these guys especially when some moron might max Redd even though his 15ppg over his career shouldn't warrant that contract. Its he loses him its devastating.
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Post by A2J on Apr 3, 2008 16:52:59 GMT -5
I like Jose and Al Jeff. But I don't really have anyone to trade for them.
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