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Post by Spencer on May 9, 2008 16:57:04 GMT -5
Scot Pollard C 30 6'11'' 265 C C C A- B C Travis Knight C 31 7'0'' 235 C C- D+ B- B C Muhammed Lasege C 25 6'11'' 245 C+ F- D B+ B C Kwame Brown PF 23 7'1'' 245 C+ C C B- B C Samaki Walker PF 29 6'9'' 260 C+ C D B B- D Etan Thomas PF 27 6'9'' 256 B- C- D B B- C Shawn Marion SF 27 6'7'' 227 A- C+ C A B+ B Rod Grizzard SF 25 6'8'' 200 B C+ C B- C+ D Bobby Simmons SF 25 6'7'' 212 B- C C+ B- C C Michael Redd SG 26 6'6'' 224 C+ A- C A- C C Trenton Hassell SG 26 6'5'' 200 C B C A- C- B Earl Boykins PG 29 5'5'' 139 C+ A- B B D- C Luke Ridnour PG 24 6'2'' 177 C- A- B+ C D- C Rashad Wright PG 23 6'2'' 190 C C+ B- B- C- C
I'm helping Tiger out a bit before the deadline. I think the best thing to do with this squad is deal expiring and 2nds for decent players. Could really use a better PF/C type. id like to see if we could move Marion to SF and have Ridnour/Boykins off the bench.
Probably wont deal any 1sts unless I hear from Tiger first.
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Post by Funky George! on May 9, 2008 16:57:37 GMT -5
Can you not do this?
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Post by Spencer on May 9, 2008 16:58:46 GMT -5
Tiger is struggling. Im not gonna make any deals for him unless he okays it. He just needs some help being proactive.
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Post by Funky George! on May 9, 2008 16:59:12 GMT -5
Tiger is struggling. Im not gonna make any deals for him unless he okays it. He just needs some help being proactive. I have his 07. Please don't do this.
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Post by Spencer on May 9, 2008 16:59:50 GMT -5
We have your 07. Lets work a deal!
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Post by Spencer on May 9, 2008 17:00:14 GMT -5
What do you think i should do? Nothing? Hire someone else to help him?
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Post by GMGreggor on May 9, 2008 17:01:13 GMT -5
Tiger is struggling. Im not gonna make any deals for him unless he okays it. He just needs some help being proactive. Please don't do this.
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Post by Funky George! on May 9, 2008 17:01:35 GMT -5
We have your 07. Lets work a deal! Show me something.
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Post by Funky George! on May 9, 2008 17:02:40 GMT -5
What do you think i should do? Nothing? Hire someone else to help him? We both have his picks, haha.
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Post by GMGreggor on May 9, 2008 17:03:34 GMT -5
If he wouldnt ask for 2 arms and 2 legs and the first born for Marion he could dig his way out.
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Post by Spencer on May 9, 2008 17:03:44 GMT -5
Tiger is pretty busy and it sucks to see how poorly his team has been doing.
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Post by noves on May 9, 2008 17:06:30 GMT -5
If he wouldnt ask for 2 arms and 2 legs and the first born for Marion he could dig his way out.
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Post by GMGreggor on May 9, 2008 17:07:28 GMT -5
I thought maybe we could work out something beneficial to both of us sending his 1 and Nash for Marion and a little depth and I get without Tmac or JO in the deal with his first there's no way.
I mean cmon,if he's gonna be that difficult I say hell with it.
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Post by Spencer on May 9, 2008 17:10:29 GMT -5
I thought maybe we could work out something beneficial to both of us sending his 1 and Nash for Marion and a little depth and I get without Tmac or JO in the deal with his first there's no way. I mean cmon,if he's gonna be that difficult I say hell with it. Marion is better then anyone he could get with 1 pick though. Nash probably wouldn't bring much in a trade. Redd has no value in a trade. Best thing to do for him is to try and compete now with Marion.
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Post by Funky George! on May 9, 2008 17:23:30 GMT -5
I thought maybe we could work out something beneficial to both of us sending his 1 and Nash for Marion and a little depth and I get without Tmac or JO in the deal with his first there's no way. I mean cmon,if he's gonna be that difficult I say hell with it. Marion is better then anyone he could get with 1 pick though. Nash probably wouldn't bring much in a trade. Redd has no value in a trade. Best thing to do for him is to try and compete now with Marion. OK, well, first tell him Redd has no value, and second, it doesn't matter if Marion has better value than anyone with his pick if he gets Nash back! He definitely needs two-three talents instead of his weak Marion and nobody else core.
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Post by Rocky on May 9, 2008 17:27:34 GMT -5
Redd is awful, he has no value. Please don't help his team, I have his 08, thanks.
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Post by Spencer on May 9, 2008 17:30:05 GMT -5
Marion is better then anyone he could get with 1 pick though. Nash probably wouldn't bring much in a trade. Redd has no value in a trade. Best thing to do for him is to try and compete now with Marion. OK, well, first tell him Redd has no value, and second, it doesn't matter if Marion has better value than anyone with his pick if he gets Nash back! He definitely needs two-three talents instead of his weak Marion and nobody else core. Redd has no value in a trade, but he could have value as a player for his team. The best thin he can do is make himself a 500 team so his picks have less value, then he can try and get those picks back more cheaply. Rebuilding doesn't always have to be about trading your best player.
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Post by Funky George! on May 9, 2008 17:32:20 GMT -5
OK, well, first tell him Redd has no value, and second, it doesn't matter if Marion has better value than anyone with his pick if he gets Nash back! He definitely needs two-three talents instead of his weak Marion and nobody else core. Redd has no value in a trade, but he could have value as a player for his team. The best thin he can do is make himself a 500 team so his picks have less value, then he can try and get those picks back more cheaply. Rebuilding doesn't always have to be about trading your best player. I dunno. He's got one season after this before the Contract Year. I'd say rebuild before it's too late, unless you really think he has enough right now to get to 40. He'd need to re-sign Boykins and have good TCs to be at .500 with what he has now.
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Post by Spencer on May 9, 2008 17:34:49 GMT -5
Redd has no value in a trade, but he could have value as a player for his team. The best thin he can do is make himself a 500 team so his picks have less value, then he can try and get those picks back more cheaply. Rebuilding doesn't always have to be about trading your best player. I dunno. He's got one season after this before the Contract Year. I'd say rebuild before it's too late, unless you really think he has enough right now to get to 40. He'd need to re-sign Boykins and have good TCs to be at .500 with what he has now. He'd need to be super active. Hed need to parlay expiring and 2nds into talent. and that talent into more talent. Sign a good MLE. Then he'd have an outside shot at being a 40 win team. I think I could do it because I spend so much time on the boards, but Im not sure he can at this point. It definately creates a conflict of interest. Ill talk to Tiger and see if maybe I can hire someone that is decent to help him.
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Post by Funky George! on May 9, 2008 17:35:50 GMT -5
I dunno. He's got one season after this before the Contract Year. I'd say rebuild before it's too late, unless you really think he has enough right now to get to 40. He'd need to re-sign Boykins and have good TCs to be at .500 with what he has now. He'd need to be super active. Hed need to parlay expiring and 2nds into talent. and that talent into more talent. Sign a good MLE. Then he'd have an outside shot at being a 40 win team. I think I could do it because I spend so much time on the boards, but Im not sure he can at this point. It definately creates a conflict of interest. Ill talk to Tiger and see if maybe I can hire someone that is decent to help him. He doesn't want to step down?
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Post by Spencer on May 9, 2008 17:36:52 GMT -5
He'd need to be super active. Hed need to parlay expiring and 2nds into talent. and that talent into more talent. Sign a good MLE. Then he'd have an outside shot at being a 40 win team. I think I could do it because I spend so much time on the boards, but Im not sure he can at this point. It definately creates a conflict of interest. Ill talk to Tiger and see if maybe I can hire someone that is decent to help him. He doesn't want to step down? He offered to. I wanted him to stick it out. Its a tough decision because he's a highly skilled Gm when hes active, but he just cant be active right now.
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Post by Spencer on May 9, 2008 17:37:13 GMT -5
Plus, at this point Im not sure anyone i could hire would be better then what he gives right now.
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Post by Funky George! on May 9, 2008 17:40:17 GMT -5
Plus, at this point Im not sure anyone i could hire would be better then what he gives right now. As far as activity?
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Post by Spencer on May 9, 2008 17:41:04 GMT -5
Plus, at this point Im not sure anyone i could hire would be better then what he gives right now. As far as activity? Or Gming. I think if he does have free time he's have a better chance at righting the ship then someone like CC or Lums does.
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Post by noves on May 9, 2008 17:41:18 GMT -5
He really does overvalue Redd. It's insane.
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