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May 19, 2008 21:14:02 GMT -5
Post by cjmjones008 on May 19, 2008 21:14:02 GMT -5
What went up:
KG- Handles Emeka- D and Rebounding Noel- D and Outside Jones- D Tinsley- Outside and Handles (twice) McCants- D Jack- Inside and Handles
What Went down:
Mihm- Rebounding Harpring- D Gomes- Outside and Rebounding McCants- Rebounding Tinsley- D Blake- Handles Fisher- D Jack- Outside
TC was better than I initially thought. I was hoping for Kobe(+10) or Emeka to go up more than they did. I figured Mihm would go down somewhere since he has such a nice TC last year. Tinsley becoming a legit PG (ratings wise) was huge.
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aar
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May 19, 2008 21:19:26 GMT -5
Post by aar on May 19, 2008 21:19:26 GMT -5
Andrew Bogut C 21 7'0'' 245 B C C B C+ A Andrew Bogut C 21 7'0'' 245 B C C B B- A Would've liked more Johan Petro C 20 7'0'' 247 C+ C- D+ B C+ C Johan Petro C 20 7'0'' 247 C+ D+ C- B+ B- C QUALITY TC for Petro! Tiago Splitter PF 21 6'11'' 235 B- C- C- C+ B B Tiago Splitter PF 21 6'11'' 235 B- C- C C+ B+ C Solid! Can't be upset with that showing Joel Freeland PF 19 6'11'' 225 C+ D+ D+ B- C+ C Joel Freeland PF 19 6'11'' 225 C+ C- D+ B- C+ C Better than nothing Jerome Beasley SF 25 6'10'' 240 B B D+ C+ C+ A Jerome Beasley SF 25 6'10'' 240 B A- D+ B- C A This guy is a fucking monster! Danny Granger SF 23 6'9'' 228 C+ C+ C A- C+ B Danny Granger SF 23 6'9'' 228 C+ C+ C A- C+ B Weak Ricky Sanchez SF 19 7'0'' 220 B- C C B C C Ricky Sanchez SF 19 7'0'' 220 B- C C B C+ C Decent Lior Eliyahu SF 20 6'8'' 210 C+ C+ C- C C B Lior Eliyahu SF 20 6'8'' 210 C+ C+ C- C C ANothing much. Larry Hughes SG 27 6'5'' 193 B- C+ C B+ C+ B Larry Hughes SG 27 6'5'' 193 B- C+ C+ B+ C+ B hmmmm. Randy Foye SG 22 6'3'' 205 B- B- C+ B- C B Randy Foye SG 22 6'3'' 205 B- B+ C+ B- C B WOW! I love it. Ronald Murray SG 26 6'3'' 202 B- B+ C+ C- C B Ronald Murray SG 26 6'3'' 202 B- B+ C+ C C B Sure Shannon Brown SG 20 6'4'' 205 B- C+ C C C B Shannon Brown SG 20 6'4'' 205 B- C+ C C C B damn Nate Robinson PG 22 5'9'' 180 B+ C+ B B- C+ C Nate Robinson PG 22 5'9'' 180 B+ C+ B B- C+ C Geez! NOTHING! Shaun Livingston PG 20 6'9'' 186 B C B- B+ C B Shaun Livingston PG 20 6'9'' 186 B C B A- C- C I like. Travis Diener PG 24 6'1'' 175 C- B+ C+ C D+ B Travis Diener PG 24 6'1'' 175 C- B+ C+ C D+ B :/ All in all, a decent TC. Nobody got dramatically better.
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TC
May 19, 2008 21:54:38 GMT -5
Post by duceisinmyheart on May 19, 2008 21:54:38 GMT -5
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May 19, 2008 22:01:15 GMT -5
Post by cjmjones008 on May 19, 2008 22:01:15 GMT -5
He probably still does but I like him till Preseason or Opening Night
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Play
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May 19, 2008 22:05:21 GMT -5
Post by Play on May 19, 2008 22:05:21 GMT -5
Zach Randolph PF 25 6'10'' 272 B C- D+ B B+ B Zach Randolph PF 25 6'10'' 272 B+ C- D+ B B+ C improved inside
Ivan Chiriaev PF 21 7'1'' 235 C+ C+ C C+ C+ C Ivan Chiriaev PF 21 7'1'' 235 C+ C+ C+ B- C+ B Improved handling and defense....Steal?
Josh Howard SF 26 6'7'' 210 B B C+ B B- B Josh Howard SF 26 6'7'' 210 B+ B C+ B B- B Improved inside.
Linas Kleiza SF 21 6'8'' 245 B- B C C+ C C Linas Kleiza SF 21 6'8'' 245 B B+ C C+ C+ C Improved inside, outside and rebounding..looking very good.
Gerry McNamara PG 22 6'2'' 182 C B+ B- C C- C Gerry McNamara PG 22 6'2'' 182 C A- B C C- B Improved outside, handling, and scouted pot.
Very solid TC for us....Rip and Pargo stayed the same while Stro Swift declined....
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aar
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May 19, 2008 22:16:54 GMT -5
Post by aar on May 19, 2008 22:16:54 GMT -5
A lot of 2nd rounders had nice increases
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May 19, 2008 22:17:37 GMT -5
Post by Funky George! on May 19, 2008 22:17:37 GMT -5
Spence, wtf???
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May 19, 2008 22:24:51 GMT -5
Post by Spencer on May 19, 2008 22:24:51 GMT -5
Scared? I told you the pic is because the Warriors need to resign him.
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May 19, 2008 22:25:22 GMT -5
Post by Spencer on May 19, 2008 22:25:22 GMT -5
Josh Smith is a nasty SF.
WOO HOO! HOW BOUT SOME PRESEASON!
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May 19, 2008 22:26:59 GMT -5
Post by KJKeelty on May 19, 2008 22:26:59 GMT -5
Go for it.
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May 19, 2008 22:39:24 GMT -5
Post by Gossip Girl on May 19, 2008 22:39:24 GMT -5
nothing significant happened, ever.
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May 19, 2008 23:03:45 GMT -5
Post by Dave on May 19, 2008 23:03:45 GMT -5
Well overall I'm happy but slightly disappointed about Amare going down in inside scoring even know I knew he was borderline A-/B+ anyways.
Big improvements were Darko he looks a lot better as well as Brandon Bass he looks to be a very capable backup now. Lebron went up in rebounding but we wished he went up outside.
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Dave
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May 19, 2008 23:06:59 GMT -5
Post by Dave on May 19, 2008 23:06:59 GMT -5
why can't spence ever make Devin Harris good! Damnit
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May 19, 2008 23:33:19 GMT -5
Post by Rocky on May 19, 2008 23:33:19 GMT -5
Roy looks like he might develop into a superstar, which is awesome. And Deron went from B-/B-/B+/B to B-/B/B+/B+, retained his scouted A potential. Sick.
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May 19, 2008 23:39:48 GMT -5
Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on May 19, 2008 23:39:48 GMT -5
Pretty good tc: Josh Smith is a beast: B- C- C- A- B+ A to B C- C A- A- A
Aldridge went up in rebounds and went down in handles. Millsap went up in Potential but nothing else. Williams is a bust for sure.
Rondo: C C B B+ C A to C C+ A- B+ C A sick.
Overall good stuff but i was expecting alittle more from Aldridge. eh w/e
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May 19, 2008 23:41:28 GMT -5
Post by DB on May 19, 2008 23:41:28 GMT -5
Improvements Nenad up inside!! sick Camby rebounding up sick! Dampier inside up Terry outside and d up, handling down. pretty solid though.
mehs: Finley inside and d down but outside up... stoud outside down, handling up.
Down AI handling down, not that bad at all
salim nothing salmons nothing
Overall, not bad tc, good to see improvements from Nenad and Camby i really love that.
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Ducky
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May 19, 2008 23:57:09 GMT -5
Post by Ducky on May 19, 2008 23:57:09 GMT -5
Dwight Howard C 20 7'1'' 251 B D+ D A- A- A Dwight Howard C 20 7'1'' 251 B D+ D A A- A Hmm, not bad. Gotta use an RC on his inside scoring.
Ndudi Ebi SF 22 6'9'' 202 C+ C+ C- B+ C A Ndudi Ebi SF 22 6'9'' 202 C+ B- C- A- C B Nice for MLE
Overall I was expecting much. Everyone else was pretty much the same or worse. Cool.
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May 20, 2008 2:47:32 GMT -5
Post by White Boy on May 20, 2008 2:47:32 GMT -5
Michael Redd SG 27 6'6'' 224 B- A- C A- C B -This is my main positive.
No huge negatives. Marion went down in D... He'll be OK.
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May 20, 2008 5:00:02 GMT -5
Post by Sheryl Yoast on May 20, 2008 5:00:02 GMT -5
I need a backup center then I really should be good to go,.
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May 20, 2008 6:09:58 GMT -5
Post by A2J on May 20, 2008 6:09:58 GMT -5
The good was Ernest Brown and Craig Smith. Brown went up to A-/B+ in defense and rebounding and was blocking 2.4 shots per game in the preseason, so he looks like an very capable starting center. Doesn't come close to justifying that awful contract I gave him, but he'll be a useful player for some time. Craig Smith went nuts in TC - he improved his inside, outside, handles and rebounding. If he was an autopick in the 2nd round, that's awesome, if Spencer picked him for me, then that's just a really nice piece of luck. He's been extended for 3 years so maybe he can be a contributor.
The whatever was a lot of guys who did nothing.
The bad was West, Walker, Mason and Marbury which is really bad because they're my four best players. All of them declined, West in defense and handles, Walker in defense, Mason in handles and Marbury inside and handles. Does midseason progression do anything? Telfair and Mason both had it from my team and both got worse. These are made even more painful cause I just wasn't expecting them. I was expecting a small increase from Mason and maybe Marbs, hoping for a bounce back TC from Toine and expecting big strides from West. This TC really shattered any hopes I might have had about competing this year it looks like.
Back to the drawing board I suppose, but we've got some nice pieces here.
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May 20, 2008 6:21:32 GMT -5
Post by A2J on May 20, 2008 6:21:32 GMT -5
Also, I completely predicted Monta being a bust.
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May 20, 2008 10:05:47 GMT -5
Post by Aaron2344 on May 20, 2008 10:05:47 GMT -5
sammy d moves up to B, A-, B....can't wait to see what he does with one more TC, wouldn't surprise me if he's on the cust of A defense with the way he played last season
artest - B, B, A...scary to think he can shut down the opponent's best player and put up 20+ a night
sarunas still A+ outside, his turnovers and D despite the ratings are always extremely good, so no movement there doesn't bother me
antonio daniels - nice FA pickup, great backup for the 1/2....A-, B-, A-
AK still at A defense which was one of the things i wanted most
SJax - i wish i could find this guy starter's minutes, but he still A-, A- and extremely efficient
Mo Pete - up to B+ outside
Lo Wright - B+ defense, B rebounding...he'll be my main backup after the great season he had last season off the bench. given starters minutes, no reason he can't block 2+ a night.
great tc
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TC
May 20, 2008 11:46:12 GMT -5
Post by Spencer on May 20, 2008 11:46:12 GMT -5
The good was Ernest Brown and Craig Smith. Brown went up to A-/B+ in defense and rebounding and was blocking 2.4 shots per game in the preseason, so he looks like an very capable starting center. Doesn't come close to justifying that awful contract I gave him, but he'll be a useful player for some time. Craig Smith went nuts in TC - he improved his inside, outside, handles and rebounding. If he was an autopick in the 2nd round, that's awesome, if Spencer picked him for me, then that's just a really nice piece of luck. He's been extended for 3 years so maybe he can be a contributor. The whatever was a lot of guys who did nothing. The bad was West, Walker, Mason and Marbury which is really bad because they're my four best players. All of them declined, West in defense and handles, Walker in defense, Mason in handles and Marbury inside and handles. Does midseason progression do anything? Telfair and Mason both had it from my team and both got worse. These are made even more painful cause I just wasn't expecting them. I was expecting a small increase from Mason and maybe Marbs, hoping for a bounce back TC from Toine and expecting big strides from West. This TC really shattered any hopes I might have had about competing this year it looks like. Back to the drawing board I suppose, but we've got some nice pieces here. Craig Smith was an auto pick. I figured since you were away Id extend him as well.
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