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Jul 4, 2008 15:44:00 GMT -5
Post by Phoenix Phil on Jul 4, 2008 15:44:00 GMT -5
i'd rather have Bynum (who you picked) then Iggy
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Jul 4, 2008 15:44:49 GMT -5
Post by cjmjones008 on Jul 4, 2008 15:44:49 GMT -5
yeah but the point was i was projected 1 off from paul... i was thinking about taking bynum if i stayed at #2
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Jul 4, 2008 15:54:19 GMT -5
Post by A2J on Jul 4, 2008 15:54:19 GMT -5
We probably had one of the best TCs in the league, without question.
Fran traded inside for defense, leaving him with B+ B+ B- big man ratings ... I'll take that. Ernest Brown, my other depth guy up front, jacked his rebounding back to B+ and also improved his outside, so we're in really good shape at the center position.
Arthur Johnson improved his defense and rebounding. I'm going to try and avoid starting him this year, because he's still quite the defensive liability, but there's no denying one thing - he's sick as hell. Craig Smith kinda sucked. Kinda ... really sucked. Whatever.
David West. DAVID WEST. I have had so much damn faith in this kid and he's repaid me with gradual improvement after gradual improvement. No fucking more man. A- C+ D A- B- C. Eat it.
Mason improved his outside. A- B- C+ A- C- C. Again, tons of faith paying dividends.
Marbs only declined slightly inside, so he'll still be a top 5 PG this year most likely.
We've got a shot at contending here. Really, really solid looking squad across the board.
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Jul 4, 2008 16:00:14 GMT -5
Post by Speed Racer on Jul 4, 2008 16:00:14 GMT -5
Anyway, as I said, we had a solid TC.
Magloire got a little worse, but it was nothing that bad. His defense, which already sucked, just dropped a little.
Jarron Collins C 29 6'11'' 258 B- D+ F+ A- B C Jarron Collins C 29 6'11'' 258 B D+ D- B+ B+ C He'd look like a complete stud if his defense stayed the same, but he's still a quality big. Increased his inside, handling, and rebounding.
Quentin Richardson SF 28 6'6'' 238 B- A C B- C+ C Quentin Richardson SF 28 6'6'' 238 B A C B- C+ C Back to where he was a few seasons ago. I can live with that.
Antawn Jamison SF 32 6'9'' 237 A- B C- B C+ B Antawn Jamison SF 32 6'9'' 237 A- B+ C- B C+ C I think he is ageless. He continues to get better at a late age and should put up awesome numbers this season.
Donte Greene SF 20 6'10'' 220 C+ B- C C+ C B Donte Greene SF 20 6'10'' 220 B- B C C+ C B It appears that he could become a really solid player. Nice increases in scoring ratings for his first TC. I'll RC hiim for sure.
Stephane Lasme SF 25 6'8'' 215 C+ D+ C- B C+ C Stephane Lasme SF 25 6'8'' 215 B- C- C- B+ B- C Solid.
Gilbert Arenas PG 26 6'3'' 196 B A A- A C B Gilbert Arenas PG 26 6'3'' 196 B+ A A- A C C I'm going to guess that he'll be the MVP again.
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Jul 4, 2008 16:30:28 GMT -5
Post by Gossip Girl on Jul 4, 2008 16:30:28 GMT -5
I dont understand why Chris Pauls inside never goes up, I think he is pretty damn good slasher and what not
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Jul 4, 2008 17:16:07 GMT -5
Post by KJKeelty on Jul 4, 2008 17:16:07 GMT -5
OK TC, with a veteran team, didn't expect much.
Papaloukas was the only guy to have a subpar TC, the rest of the starters are about the same. Manu's still a top 10 talent. Batum did nothing, would have been nice to get something encouraging from the rook. No luck there.
Did get Kevin Martin back in FA, great bench guy, as well as Drew Gooden with the MLE. Gives us some good depth with those two plus Bowen and Armstrong coming off the bench.
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Jul 4, 2008 17:17:22 GMT -5
Post by nybombers3 on Jul 4, 2008 17:17:22 GMT -5
I dont understand why Chris Pauls inside never goes up, I think he is pretty damn good slasher and what not He shot 53% last season so I'm guessing his strength is pretty low.
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Jul 4, 2008 17:19:15 GMT -5
Post by Rocky on Jul 4, 2008 17:19:15 GMT -5
yeah but the point was i was projected 1 off from paul... i was thinking about taking bynum if i stayed at #2 I haven't followed any of this conversation at all.
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Jul 4, 2008 17:22:11 GMT -5
Post by Funky George! on Jul 4, 2008 17:22:11 GMT -5
yeah but the point was i was projected 1 off from paul... i was thinking about taking bynum if i stayed at #2 I haven't followed any of this conversation at all. Hahahaha, thought the same.
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Jul 4, 2008 18:09:48 GMT -5
Post by Gossip Girl on Jul 4, 2008 18:09:48 GMT -5
I dont understand why Chris Pauls inside never goes up, I think he is pretty damn good slasher and what not He shot 53% last season so I'm guessing his strength is pretty low. what are all the factors that determine inside rating. I know its around here somewhere I just dont feel like looking for it
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Jul 4, 2008 18:15:01 GMT -5
Post by nybombers3 on Jul 4, 2008 18:15:01 GMT -5
Inside scoring, strength and jumping. A PG (or any player really) can have pretty good inside, solid jumping and mediocre strength and still have C+. Say something like 75, 50 and 35. I'm guessing Paul's are around that range. Of course, I don't know how those numbers actually play out so I could very well be wrong.
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Jul 4, 2008 18:56:11 GMT -5
Post by Gossip Girl on Jul 4, 2008 18:56:11 GMT -5
fact of the matter is he is dirty as hell
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Jul 4, 2008 19:07:36 GMT -5
Post by Tigertecz on Jul 4, 2008 19:07:36 GMT -5
Decent TC for my young Hornets. Nothing out of this world, but nice improvements that are noticeable.
Joey Dorsey C 23 6'9'' 260 C+ D D- B- B- C Joey Dorsey C 23 6'9'' 260 B- D D B- B- C - Increases in inside and handling from my 2nd rounder. I'll take that for sure.
Carl Landry PF 25 6'9'' 248 B C- C- B+ B C Carl Landry PF 25 6'9'' 248 B C- D+ B+ B+ C - Despite dropping handles, that increase in rebounding makes him look like a stud big man. Hopefully he'll soon play like one!
Jeff Green SF 22 6'9'' 235 B- B- C+ B- C+ B Jeff Green SF 22 6'9'' 235 B- B C+ B- C+ B - Increases in outside shooting. He still looks like the jack of all trades type player. I just hope he develops better than Odom did.
Eric Gordon SG 20 6'4'' 220 C+ B C- C+ C- A Eric Gordon SG 20 6'4'' 220 C+ A- D+ C+ C- B - Scouted potential and handling dropped a notch but his outside shooting exploded! He's going to be a deadly shooter.
Jose Juan Barea PG 24 6'0'' 175 C B- B C+ D+ B Jose Juan Barea PG 24 6'0'' 175 C B B+ C+ D+ B - Increase in outside and handling. A couple more nice TC's and he'll be a very solid PG indeed.
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Jul 4, 2008 21:25:48 GMT -5
Post by James on Jul 4, 2008 21:25:48 GMT -5
Andrew Bynum B- C- D+ A B B to B C- D+ A B+ C After looking at Gallinari and measuring it up with the improvement of Green, I still love this deal for me.
Yi Jianlian B B- C C+ B A to B- B- C B- B B Lost inside but gained defense, was expecting a lot better but I'm not really going to complain here.
Sasha Pavlovic C+ A- C C+ C B to B- A- C C+ C C Thats a decent rating line, a nice pick-up. I'd say I should be able to get a pick out of him. Nice.
Lior Eliyahu C+ C+ C- C C+ A to B- B- C C C+ A Up inside, outside and handles, sick. He was the only FA left during days 4 and 5 with A potential so I thought it was worth the risk. Awesome.
Corey Brewer C+ C C B+ C A to C+ C C A- C A Sick. Hopefully he turns into a Bruce Bowen type player. Very valuable coming off the bench.
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