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Post by Rocky on Jul 6, 2008 22:55:02 GMT -5
CC to the Brewers ends this conversation. Except CC wasn't the main conversation No, not what I meant. CC is now on the Brewers, an NL Central team. It boosts them to a borderline elite team, thus boosting the NL Central. To me, the NL Central was better pre-CC. Now it isn't a question. |
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Post by Rocky on Jul 6, 2008 22:55:36 GMT -5
They've played extremely well this week. |
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Post by Ebener 12 on Jul 6, 2008 22:56:29 GMT -5
This is going to make the Brewers very hard to beat down the road if Sheets can stay healthy
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Post by Gossip Girl on Jul 6, 2008 23:15:41 GMT -5
They've played extremely well this week. Yeah I know, good series against the Phillies, tonights game was exciting. Howard has 123 strikeouts, record is 199. I hope the Mets can use the momentum from playing well lately after the allstar(0608) break. |
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Post by Ebener 12 on Jul 6, 2008 23:16:47 GMT -5
My cousin got the call up last week, JA Happ on the Phillies. Went to the same high school as me too. Get's his second start wednesday on ESPN.
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Post by Gossip Girl on Jul 6, 2008 23:18:09 GMT -5
My cousin got the call up last week, JA Happ on the Phillies. Went to the same high school as me too. Get's his second start wednesday on ESPN. sick, good for him. |
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Post by Rocky on Jul 6, 2008 23:19:54 GMT -5
Tomorrow's game is extremely important. Take 3 of 4, pull within 2.5 with 6 home games leading into the AS break. Regardless, they've won 4 games on their 8 game road trip, which is a pretty nice accomplishment considering it was 4 at STL, 4 at PHI. One more win would be sweet. I'm really curious to see how Pedro does. He has had his FB the whole time, which makes it kind of weird that the numbers haven't been there. He's gone 5 straight starts with 5+ earned runs or more. There comes a point where he stops being "Pedro Martinez" and starts being just a ridiculously ineffective pitcher. I have a ton of faith in him because his velocity has been fine (and I'll never worry about his control/off-speed pitches, even though they've both been off so far) but he needs to eventually start performing. Tomorrow would be a nice time to start.
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Post by Rocky on Jul 6, 2008 23:20:31 GMT -5
My cousin got the call up last week, JA Happ on the Phillies. Went to the same high school as me too. Get's his second start wednesday on ESPN. He's your cousin? That's sick. He pitched really well against the Mets on Friday. They destroyed him last year in his debut. |
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Post by Ebener 12 on Jul 6, 2008 23:21:49 GMT -5
Yeah, he was so nervous. He's been so good in the minors and should demand for a trade, because he would be a starter on most teams. That bullshit call against Wright had me throwing shit.
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Post by Ebener 12 on Jul 6, 2008 23:22:33 GMT -5
Mark, did you see that pitch in the 5th where they called it a ball for Wright? Would have ended the inning
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Post by Rocky on Jul 6, 2008 23:23:56 GMT -5
Yeah, he was so nervous. He's been so good in the minors and should demand for a trade, because he would be a starter on most teams. That bullshit call against Wright had me throwing shit. Well, he obviously cannot demand a trade, but yeah, his AAA numbers this year were very good. Looks like he got lit up last year, plus his one start in the bigs. I wonder how highly they value him. His stuff is mediocre, but he got it done on Friday, and he does have a good K rate. |
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Post by Rocky on Jul 6, 2008 23:24:50 GMT -5
Mark, did you see that pitch in the 5th where they called it a ball for Wright? Would have ended the inning Yeah. Those even out though. The strike zone on Friday was really narrow from left to right. |
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Post by Gossip Girl on Jul 6, 2008 23:24:58 GMT -5
Tomorrow's game is extremely important. Take 3 of 4, pull within 2.5 with 6 home games leading into the AS break. Regardless, they've won 4 games on their 8 game road trip, which is a pretty nice accomplishment considering it was 4 at STL, 4 at PHI. One more win would be sweet. I'm really curious to see how Pedro does. He has had his FB the whole time, which makes it kind of weird that the numbers haven't been there. He's gone 5 straight starts with 5+ earned runs or more. There comes a point where he stops being "Pedro Martinez" and starts being just a ridiculously ineffective pitcher. I have a ton of faith in him because his velocity has been fine (and I'll never worry about his control/off-speed pitches, even though they've both been off so far) but he needs to eventually start performing. Tomorrow would be a nice time to start. I like the part about "there comes a point when he stops being Pedro and just becomes a ridiculously ineffective pitcher, its very true though. |
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Post by Gossip Girl on Jul 6, 2008 23:25:39 GMT -5
Mets yeeeee
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Post by Rocky on Jul 6, 2008 23:25:44 GMT -5
Yeah, he was so nervous. He's been so good in the minors and should demand for a trade, because he would be a starter on most teams. That bullshit call against Wright had me throwing shit. He reminds me a lot of the D'Backs version (not MIL) of Doug Davis. |
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Post by Ebener 12 on Jul 6, 2008 23:26:31 GMT -5
He's got a very deceptive motion which helps his fastball alot. His curveball and changeup are + pitches for him as well. He was hurt all of last year, and probably shouldn't have pitched against the Mets them because he was injuired, but I mean who would pass that up when your fighting so hard for it? They value him to the point where they don't want to get rid of him, but he has been mentioned in a trade of him and victorino for bedard.
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Post by Ebener 12 on Jul 6, 2008 23:27:23 GMT -5
Mark, did you see that pitch in the 5th where they called it a ball for Wright? Would have ended the inning Yeah. Those even out though. The strike zone on Friday was really narrow from left to right. Simply put, even on that day it was a strike. All it came down to was a no name rookie pitcher against an all star. Made me sick |
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Post by Rocky on Jul 6, 2008 23:28:52 GMT -5
He's got a very deceptive motion which helps his fastball alot. His curveball and changeup are + pitches for him as well. He was hurt all of last year, and probably shouldn't have pitched against the Mets them because he was injuired, but I mean who would pass that up when your fighting so hard for it? They value him to the point where they don't want to get rid of him, but he has been mentioned in a trade of him and victorino for bedard. Yeah. I liked him. Then again, pitching against the Mets as a fairly inexperienced pitcher and having success isn't very telling. Last year's start notwithstanding, inexperienced pitchers tend to do very well against the Mets. It's weird. He sits in the high 80s, right? |
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Post by Ebener 12 on Jul 6, 2008 23:30:27 GMT -5
his fastball will reach 93 in the game, consistently around 87-90, but it's weird because he's always been a K pitcher, and led his AAA league in K's. It's the deception and it's a very live pitch,
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Post by Rocky on Jul 6, 2008 23:31:36 GMT -5
his fastball will reach 93 in the game, consistently around 87-90, but it's weird because he's always been a K pitcher, and led his AAA league in K's. It's the deception and it's a very live pitch, Yeah, more than a K per inning in the minors over his career. That's really impressive. He didn't have ace stuff, but taking a closer look at his minor league numbers, I like him a lot. I think the Doug Davis comparison is a good one. |
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Post by Ebener 12 on Jul 6, 2008 23:33:33 GMT -5
His biggest worry was his location, but he has been great with that this year. He didn't locate well last week, but that's expected when you just come up. If he get's the chance to settle down, he's going to make it for good.
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Post by Rocky on Jul 6, 2008 23:35:04 GMT -5
Really, really great HR rate too. Cool. Looks like a good fit for CBP. He's got a better HR rate in the minors than Pelfrey, and Pelf isn't a fly ball pitcher at all.
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Post by DB on Jul 6, 2008 23:38:40 GMT -5
thats pretty cool.
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Post by Ebener 12 on Jul 6, 2008 23:41:43 GMT -5
yeah, we all went to my aunts last week to watch it, found a neighbor with mlb package,
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Post by Play on Jul 7, 2008 2:10:07 GMT -5
7 all stars>>>2 even though Jermaine Dye got snubbed.
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