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Post by Speed Racer on Sept 27, 2008 0:40:55 GMT -5
McCain name-dropped. That's all he did. Plus, he fucked up half the names he referenced. It wasn't even close. This debate was a clean Obama win. Coming from an Obama supporter and a democratic? I'm independent and I'm most likely not voting for either candidate. However, I felt that McCain did pretty well. Also, wtf was up with Joe Biden referring Senator McCain as "John". Pretty classless if you like me. I really dislike Joe Biden. I really like Joe Biden. And if you aren't voting for anyone then shut the hell up.
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Post by Ducky on Sept 27, 2008 0:44:47 GMT -5
Coming from an Obama supporter and a democratic? I'm independent and I'm most likely not voting for either candidate. However, I felt that McCain did pretty well. Also, wtf was up with Joe Biden referring Senator McCain as "John". Pretty classless if you like me. I really dislike Joe Biden. I really like Joe Biden. And if you aren't voting for anyone then shut the hell up. I'm voting, just not likely for either of those 2.. Fucktard
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Post by Speed Racer on Sept 27, 2008 0:49:45 GMT -5
I really like Joe Biden. And if you aren't voting for anyone then shut the hell up. I'm voting, just not likely for either of those 2.. Fucktard Whatever. Your vote shouldn't count either way.
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Post by GMGreggor on Sept 27, 2008 0:58:37 GMT -5
And cleaned his clock on foreign policy? What debate did you watch? Obama thrashed McCain on Iraq. And honestly, both parties will say their candidate won. It was that type of debate - nobody really had a defining moment. I strongly disagree on that. Obama kept saying we should'nt have went to war,it was a mistake etc. Thats fine,thats his opinion,hell I'm not sure I agree with the decision either. BUT,we're fucking there now. What are you gonna do about it now? He never answered that. His past stance has been to set a deadline for withdrawl which is stupid. If you're having a rash of burglaries in your neighborhood and you put a big damn sign in the yard saying we'll be going on vacation monday. Thats in essence what that does. The bad guys just wait till you're gone then start raising hell. It's stupid. And I tought he was clueless on Russia. He hemhawed around until McCain came out and said look it's about oil. Then he starts chiming in on it. Dont see how Obama came out ahead on the foreign issues. The economy I can maybe understand why some thought he may have won on that I guess but to me they both sucked on that issue.
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Post by Jay on Sept 27, 2008 1:18:50 GMT -5
Also, wtf was up with Joe Biden referring Senator McCain as "John". Pretty classless if you like me. I really dislike Joe Biden. They know each other, and have for a long time. Obama hasn't really attacked McCain with anything. I get the whole "clean campaign" thing, but at some point he has to go at him. Right? Other than that, this debate was pointless. I really didn't learn anything new.
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Post by Sheryl Yoast on Sept 27, 2008 1:26:57 GMT -5
Elephants > Donkeys
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Post by Speed Racer on Sept 27, 2008 1:38:29 GMT -5
Donkeys > Elephants.
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Post by Sheryl Yoast on Sept 27, 2008 1:52:26 GMT -5
Pigs>Maniacs
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Post by Speed Racer on Sept 27, 2008 1:55:07 GMT -5
Maniacs >> Pigs.
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Post by Sheryl Yoast on Sept 27, 2008 2:02:26 GMT -5
Die
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Post by Speed Racer on Sept 27, 2008 11:12:14 GMT -5
Greg, 51% of the population feel that Obama 'won' the debate compared to 38% for McCain. So again, how did he win this debate?
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Post by youngstabullz on Sept 27, 2008 11:16:01 GMT -5
Greg, 51% of the population feel that Obama 'won' the debate compared to 38% for McCain. So again, how did he win this debate? Link?
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Post by Speed Racer on Sept 27, 2008 11:19:43 GMT -5
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Post by Jay on Sept 27, 2008 11:45:44 GMT -5
"The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey is not a measurement of the views of all Americans, since only people who watched the debate were questioned and the audience included more Democrats than Republicans." "It can be reasonably concluded, especially after accounting for the slight Democratic bias in the survey, that we witnessed a tie in Mississippi tonight," CNN Senior Political Researcher Alan Silverleib said. "But given the direction of the campaign over the last couple of weeks, a tie translates to a win for Obama."
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Post by youngstabullz on Sept 27, 2008 11:47:31 GMT -5
Too bad there votes are only minuscule looking at the bigger picture.
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Post by GMGreggor on Sept 27, 2008 12:00:50 GMT -5
Greg, 51% of the population feel that Obama 'won' the debate compared to 38% for McCain. So again, how did he win this debate? Does'nt mean anything,here. {{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?... MCCAIN 68% 223,082 OBAMA 30% 97,756 NEITHER 2% 7,945 Total Votes: 328,783 link www.drudgereport.com/Depending on where you go you can find different results. I just go by what I see,I dont listen to the post debate rhetoric. They're as biased if not more as most normal folks.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Sept 27, 2008 13:39:21 GMT -5
McCain name-dropped. That's all he did. Plus, he fucked up half the names he referenced. It wasn't even close. This debate was a clean Obama win. Coming from an Obama supporter and a democratic? I'm independent and I'm most likely not voting for either candidate. However, I felt that McCain did pretty well. Also, wtf was up with Joe Biden referring Senator McCain as "John". Pretty classless if you like me. I really dislike Joe Biden. I only saw the second half of the debate, and all McCain did was try to diminish everything Obama said. That doesn't mean he was right. I like Joe Biden... that's not classless, they've been in the Senate together for years. John would've done the same thing.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Sept 27, 2008 13:40:34 GMT -5
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Post by noves on Sept 27, 2008 13:44:44 GMT -5
Calling McCain by his first name was classless?
One of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
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Post by youngstabullz on Sept 27, 2008 14:06:25 GMT -5
Calling McCain by his first name was classless? One of the dumbest things I've ever heard. But he's a war hero! In all honesty, even as a Democrat, McCain won this and was continuously putting Obama on the defensive. Obama said how a lot of stuff is going wrong but never continued on to saying how to fix it.
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