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Post by AllStar0608 on Feb 2, 2009 0:08:33 GMT -5
3 stealers throw punches.....no ejections (bullshit). bullshit roughing the passer call while the stealers had a block in the back AND intentional grounding on the same play. almost no holding calls as darnell dockett gets grab and raped on every play in the open view of everyone in the backfield. mike holmgren was having nightmares. i wonder why? oh yeah cuz his team got fucked hardcore in the super bowl by refs too. No mention of the running into the holder call? you arent allowed to touch the guy. that was legit. Wilson slipped and ran over him so thats a penalty.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Feb 2, 2009 0:08:35 GMT -5
Harrison was definitely getting abused on a lot of those holding calls. I remember when Belichick always got a lot of praise for playing starters on special teams before anyone else really did. You always started hearing about how players would get revenge on special teams because of that. The camera was constantly on Harrison so anything he did was going to be seen. I'm sure plenty of players have done worse and not got ejected
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Feb 2, 2009 0:10:06 GMT -5
the holding calls on Gandy were legitimate. I don't think anyone is arguing that.
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Post by AllStar0608 on Feb 2, 2009 0:10:17 GMT -5
Lol. Yeah, there were some iffy calls, but allstar, you're a fucking nut if you actually think the game was decided by the refs. well think about it this way. instead of calling roughing the passer it would have either been intentional grounding or block in the back if they made the right calls on that play. they ended up scoring a TD on that drive thanks to the roughing the passer. they would have had to punt instead of scoring that TD. that roughing the passer call REALLY hurt zona. and it def. wasnt roughing the passer. of course zona had other opportunities to win but that was a major unfair advantage and it really does play a big impact on the games outcome.
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Post by Speed Racer on Feb 2, 2009 0:10:26 GMT -5
Maniac get off BBS and celebrate you idiot! I'm drunk. I'm high. I'm on cloud-nine right now. Amazing.
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Post by Rocky on Feb 2, 2009 0:10:58 GMT -5
Maniac get off BBS and celebrate you idiot!
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Post by AllStar0608 on Feb 2, 2009 0:11:03 GMT -5
Allstar lost all credibility with football when he told maniac that Bill Stewart is a lot better HC than Rich Rodriguez. The refs were calling a lot of penalties but most of them were easily justified. The Cardinals killed themselves by missing so many tackles and rarely being able to bring Big Ben down. when the fuck did i say this? the only thing i ever said was rich rodriguez spread O was starting to get figured out by big east teams. if im rich rod i would have never left. he will be fired from michigan in 5 years there or less and at WVU he would have had a lifetime contract pretty much.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Feb 2, 2009 0:11:42 GMT -5
Maniac get off BBS and celebrate you idiot! really
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Post by GMGreggor on Feb 2, 2009 0:11:49 GMT -5
Refs made some questionable calls. Seems like they always go Pitts way going way back to Lynn Swann pushing down Bennie Barnes of Dallas and calling Barnes for interference.
That roughing if memory serves correct tho was on 3rd down. They got a field goal off that drive. Take that away and it's a different game.
Ben played well though,I didnt think he had it in him after way he played against Seattle in his other SB.
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Post by Speed Racer on Feb 2, 2009 0:12:41 GMT -5
Fact: Arizona couldn't stop Pittsburgh on the last drive. They had their chance to win the game without the refs involved. Actually, the Steelers had a holding called against them on that last drive. The Steelers had the ball at the 12 yard line. 88 yards. Arizona couldn't stop them.
Refs didn't do that. The Steelers did. Best franchise ever.
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Post by AllStar0608 on Feb 2, 2009 0:12:57 GMT -5
That Harrison thing really was disgusting. I was just shocked when I saw that, one of the ugliest things I've seen. It was really just embarrassing to see. its common in stealers games.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Feb 2, 2009 0:12:58 GMT -5
Lol. Yeah, there were some iffy calls, but allstar, you're a fucking nut if you actually think the game was decided by the refs. well think about it this way. instead of calling roughing the passer it would have either been intentional grounding or block in the back if they made the right calls on that play. they ended up scoring a TD on that drive thanks to the roughing the passer. they would have had to punt instead of scoring that TD. that roughing the passer call REALLY hurt zona. and it def. wasnt roughing the passer. of course zona had other opportunities to win but that was a major unfair advantage and it really does play a big impact on the games outcome. trying to actually say a football game outcome was changed by 1 play in the first quarter is idiotic
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Feb 2, 2009 0:13:07 GMT -5
Kurt Warner is still amazing.
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Post by AllStar0608 on Feb 2, 2009 0:13:33 GMT -5
Hahaha, you sound like a bunch of pussies. James Harrison got mauled that entire game. Every single holding call on him was legitimate. AND HOW THE FUCK WAS THAT HOLDING ON THE SAFETY? Hartwig got run over - he didn't hold anyone. Refs were a non-factor in this game. They called penalties on both teams throughout the entire game. Allstar, FUCK YOU. HAHAHAHA. IDC that the Steelers won. I think they beat the Cardinals, but just barely. Refs didn't ruin the game. But if you defend that Harrison play, or justify it at all, it's ridiculous.he wont just defend him he will justify that it was the right thing to do and that he is the greatest player ever. this is they exact way every stealers fan on earth will respond.
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Post by AllStar0608 on Feb 2, 2009 0:13:55 GMT -5
IDC that the Steelers won. I think they beat the Cardinals, but just barely. Refs didn't ruin the game. But if you defend that Harrison play, or justify it at all, it's ridiculous. James Harrison had a 100-yard TD return in the Super Bowl. I justify that. James Harrison gets held every single play. He was facemasked about 300 times tonight. The man is a monster. i could have just read down 1 post to see my point made for itself.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Feb 2, 2009 0:14:01 GMT -5
Allstar lost all credibility with football when he told maniac that Bill Stewart is a lot better HC than Rich Rodriguez. The refs were calling a lot of penalties but most of them were easily justified. The Cardinals killed themselves by missing so many tackles and rarely being able to bring Big Ben down. when the fuck did i say this? the only thing i ever said was rich rodriguez spread O was starting to get figured out by big east teams. if im rich rod i would have never left. he will be fired from michigan in 5 years there or less and at WVU he would have had a lifetime contract pretty much. maniac sent me IMs last fall of a convo between you two Rich Rod won't get fired in 5 years. He will be running the big 10 in 5 years
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Post by AllStar0608 on Feb 2, 2009 0:14:22 GMT -5
id rather go 0-16 than have players like james harrison making dirty plays like that. hines ward and ike taylor also threw punches in that game. cheap pieces of shit.
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Post by DB on Feb 2, 2009 0:15:00 GMT -5
Lots of bullshit calls but they fucked themselves over at the end of the half though. It would of been a different game for sure.
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Post by AllStar0608 on Feb 2, 2009 0:16:03 GMT -5
Harrison was definitely getting abused on a lot of those holding calls. I remember when Belichick always got a lot of praise for playing starters on special teams before anyone else really did. You always started hearing about how players would get revenge on special teams because of that. The camera was constantly on Harrison so anything he did was going to be seen. I'm sure plenty of players have done worse and not got ejected but did those players get flagged? this one was seen all over the world and was plain as day and the ref saw it too.
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Post by GMGreggor on Feb 2, 2009 0:16:26 GMT -5
well think about it this way. instead of calling roughing the passer it would have either been intentional grounding or block in the back if they made the right calls on that play. they ended up scoring a TD on that drive thanks to the roughing the passer. they would have had to punt instead of scoring that TD. that roughing the passer call REALLY hurt zona. and it def. wasnt roughing the passer. of course zona had other opportunities to win but that was a major unfair advantage and it really does play a big impact on the games outcome. trying to actually say a football game outcome was changed by 1 play in the first quarter is idiotic Think that was the third quarter was'nt it? But to say one play cant impact a game isnt exactly bright either is it?
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Post by DB on Feb 2, 2009 0:16:27 GMT -5
Kurt Warner is still amazing. yeah, guy is a stud. What a great game.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Feb 2, 2009 0:16:41 GMT -5
id rather go 0-16 than have players like james harrison making dirty plays like that. hines ward and ike taylor also threw punches in that game. cheap pieces of shit. Chris Henry is the biggest piece of shit in the entire NFL and he's on the Bengals roster.
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Post by DB on Feb 2, 2009 0:17:11 GMT -5
trying to actually say a football game outcome was changed by 1 play in the first quarter is idiotic Think that was the third quarter was'nt it? But to say one play cant impact a game isnt exactly bright either is it? yeah that play was in the 2nd half, forget if it was 3rd or 4th.
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Post by AllStar0608 on Feb 2, 2009 0:17:29 GMT -5
well think about it this way. instead of calling roughing the passer it would have either been intentional grounding or block in the back if they made the right calls on that play. they ended up scoring a TD on that drive thanks to the roughing the passer. they would have had to punt instead of scoring that TD. that roughing the passer call REALLY hurt zona. and it def. wasnt roughing the passer. of course zona had other opportunities to win but that was a major unfair advantage and it really does play a big impact on the games outcome. trying to actually say a football game outcome was changed by 1 play in the first quarter is idiotic i was thinking the play was in the 3rd quarter. it definitely wasnt in the first quarter. it might have been in the 2nd. that definitely changes the game. it was a TD that wouldnt have been scored. arizona might not have gone to the huddle (which is the only way they are effective) so they still might lose, but that doesnt take away a TERRIBLE call that led to a TD that woudnt have been scored.
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Post by AllStar0608 on Feb 2, 2009 0:17:50 GMT -5
Kurt Warner is still amazing. he bette make HOF.
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