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Post by Play on Jan 20, 2009 19:27:44 GMT -5
Josh Smith + Gilchrist + Hmmmmmm hahaha Nobody really values Gilchrist though...I know I wouldn't want him on a long expensive contract.
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Outlawz
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Post by Outlawz on Jan 20, 2009 19:28:08 GMT -5
Josh Smith + Gilchrist + Hmmmmmm hahaha Nobody really values Gilchrist though...I know I wouldn't want him on a long expensive contract. true
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Ducky
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Post by Ducky on Jan 20, 2009 19:28:37 GMT -5
I think my offer was solid but ducky was looking to get a young guy he can use and some picks so i see why he does it.. i offered 8 1sts and expiring You and Heat were right behind Dan. I was seeing is Suns would do Jatobá and Machata, but he wouldn't push it..
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Post by Ebener 12 on Jan 20, 2009 19:28:41 GMT -5
I'll take him back.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jan 20, 2009 19:28:48 GMT -5
This hinges on what happens with St. Could... he was dubbed as a potential stud but he hasn't showed it thus far.
It's not a great deal for Ducky but it's not an absolute rape... I don't know what other offers he was getting.
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Post by Ebener 12 on Jan 20, 2009 19:29:03 GMT -5
Gilchrist doesn't deserve 5 a year IMO
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Post by Ebener 12 on Jan 20, 2009 19:29:27 GMT -5
He was a cancer to my team, no one should sign him
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Post by Ducky on Jan 20, 2009 19:29:31 GMT -5
Duck, I like you as a person but you are a terrible GM right now. Why would you rush this? Why not let the offers keep coming in? Cuz about 15 teams that had youth already PM'd me. I got pretty much all the offers I could. And I really like St. Cloud, I think he could be a B A C+ B+ C C type player down the road.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jan 20, 2009 19:29:41 GMT -5
I think my offer was solid but ducky was looking to get a young guy he can use and some picks so i see why he does it.. i offered 8 1sts and expiring You and Heat were right behind Dan. I was seeing is Suns would do Jatobá and Machata, but he wouldn't push it.. it's something I would've had to think about. I don't know if my team is close to being a contender though, even with Dwight.
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Jan 20, 2009 19:30:40 GMT -5
I also think that Cloud is gonna turn out to be great. Obviously like it for dan as well because this gets him at least 40 wins. in the West. And damn thats a big contract Howard is on.
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Post by GP on Jan 20, 2009 19:30:41 GMT -5
Nocedal and Thabeet>>>>>>>St. Cloud Jackson>>>>3 shitty 1sts stfu Ducky told me it was Nocedal and Jackson... stfu We've already established that Ducky lies.
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Play
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Post by Play on Jan 20, 2009 19:31:15 GMT -5
You and Heat were right behind Dan. I was seeing is Suns would do Jatobá and Machata, but he wouldn't push it.. it's something I would've had to think about. I don't know if my team is close to being a contender though, even with Dwight. Dwight, Dunigan, Avery and your other young wings would have been pretty good out west.
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Post by Ebener 12 on Jan 20, 2009 19:31:20 GMT -5
Duck, I like you as a person but you are a terrible GM right now. Why would you rush this? Why not let the offers keep coming in? Cuz about 15 teams that had youth already PM'd me. I got pretty much all the offers I could. And I really like St. Cloud, I think he could be a B A C+ B+ C C type player down the road. That sounds bad, if you think he will only be B A C+ B+ C C then why would you not take Josh Smith and a current B B+ C B+ C+ B + picks
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Jan 20, 2009 19:31:49 GMT -5
Wish Ducky would have responded to me letting me know he was ready to pull the trigger with dan, i would have probably upped my offer. No biggie.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jan 20, 2009 19:32:08 GMT -5
Devereux St. Cloud SF 21 6'7'' 227 B- A- C+ B- C A Eamon O'Callaghan SF 20 6'7'' 220 C+ A- C+ B C- B
yee
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Post by DB on Jan 20, 2009 19:32:44 GMT -5
LOL JOEEE
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Post by Ebener 12 on Jan 20, 2009 19:32:47 GMT -5
Wish Ducky would have responded to me letting me know he was ready to pull the trigger with dan, i would have probably upped my offer. No biggie. Exactly. He told me he was going to so I was typing up a PM bettering mine. It's just bad
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Ducky
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Post by Ducky on Jan 20, 2009 19:32:47 GMT -5
Lakers Carrington+Big Al+2 1sts
Knicks expirings+9 firsts
Grizz 8 firsts + fillers
Blazers St.Cloud+3 firsts+fillers(cap)
grizz Nocedal+action jackson+Thabeet
Suns ricky Machata+Hahn Owens+picks
Pistons Karron Thomson + picks
Suns Filipe Jatobá +3 1sts
Magic Machata+he wanted me to add
And some other offers, but ya..
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Post by Ebener 12 on Jan 20, 2009 19:33:30 GMT -5
I agree, mines not worthy
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jan 20, 2009 19:34:10 GMT -5
it's something I would've had to think about. I don't know if my team is close to being a contender though, even with Dwight. Dwight, Dunigan, Avery and your other young wings would have been pretty good out west. Maybe. I'll probably end up regretting not doing the deal but I also think Jatoba and Machata's value could skyrocket with another big TC from each one of them.
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Jan 20, 2009 19:34:14 GMT -5
Had i known you were about to pull the trigger on a deal i would have probably done the GST 18 and Cavs. I dont wanna say this stuff now though because its over. Good deal for both.
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Post by Ducky on Jan 20, 2009 19:34:24 GMT -5
Cuz about 15 teams that had youth already PM'd me. I got pretty much all the offers I could. And I really like St. Cloud, I think he could be a B A C+ B+ C C type player down the road. That sounds bad, if you think he will only be B A C+ B+ C C then why would you not take Josh Smith and a current B B+ C B+ C+ B + picks You never said picks, and I didn't want 2 big contracts to begin with. I wanted to clear up my contracts. Plus you were kinda unsure if you'd do it 100%. And I didn't want to wait.
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Post by Ebener 12 on Jan 20, 2009 19:36:10 GMT -5
That sounds bad, if you think he will only be B A C+ B+ C C then why would you not take Josh Smith and a current B B+ C B+ C+ B + picks You never said picks, and I didn't want 2 big contracts to begin with. I wanted to clear up my contracts. Plus you were kinda unsure if you'd do it 100%. And I didn't want to wait. thats because you posted a deal before I could even respond!!! lol it's ok Duck but your just bad at getting maximum value.
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Ducky
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Post by Ducky on Jan 20, 2009 19:38:23 GMT -5
You never said picks, and I didn't want 2 big contracts to begin with. I wanted to clear up my contracts. Plus you were kinda unsure if you'd do it 100%. And I didn't want to wait. thats because you posted a deal before I could even respond!!! lol it's ok Duck but your just bad at getting maximum value. We'll see. I'm pretty content with dropping a 27 million contract per year for 4 years (which ends at 34mil), while getting a nice young player + 3 1sts.
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Post by Outlawz on Jan 20, 2009 19:41:20 GMT -5
The deal aint horrible. Ducky basically got what he was looking for so cant fault him for that.
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