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[GMGreggor]

Feb 8, 2009 14:02:33 GMT -5 Spencer said:

This mess is all MLBs fault. Baseball was dying and steroids saved it. Now there is uproar? Completely lame.

Steroids didnt save it. They may have prolonged what should happen but I dont know if they saved it. They need to have a cap like the other pro sports among other things.

Steroid's are like duct tape. It may prolong the inevitable but it's still broke.

[Sheryl Yoast]

Feb 8, 2009 22:17:34 GMT -5 GMGreggor said:

Feb 8, 2009 20:12:00 GMT -5 Sheryl Yoast said:

I think steroids are blown out of proportion. I take adderall, should there be an asterisk by my diploma when I graduate?

Are you breaking schoolastic records?

Is everyone in sports who use steroids breaking records? Is my G.P.A a lot higher due to their use......100 percent yes. Am I still doing the work? Yes. Are people taking steroids getting an advantage. Yes. Are they still doing the same work as everyone else. Of course.

Maybe not in here or with anyone in BBS but there is a huge common misconception in the American public about steroids. It is the most tainted subject talked about in the American media. I guarantee you that 90 percent of the American public are less-informed on the topic due to media reports distributing faux information.

[GMGreggor]

Feb 8, 2009 23:51:14 GMT -5 Sheryl Yoast said:

Feb 8, 2009 22:17:34 GMT -5 GMGreggor said:

Are you breaking schoolastic records?

Is everyone in sports who use steroids breaking records? Is my G.P.A a lot higher due to their use......100 percent yes. Am I still doing the work? Yes. Are people taking steroids getting an advantage. Yes. Are they still doing the same work as everyone else. Of course.

Maybe not in here or with anyone in BBS but there is a huge common misconception in the American public about steroids. It is the most tainted subject talked about in the American media. I guarantee you that 90 percent of the American public are less-informed on the topic due to media reports distributing faux information.

If you're taking steroids that are prescribed for medical condition that's apples and oranges Pig. I used to work out a lot, was a gymrat with quite a few friends. Some of them started taking steroids and they just left me behind. Plus they changed man, started wanting to fight at a drop of the hat,aggresive as hell in general. To think it's just a minor annoyance is bullshit.

These pro and college guys would'nt be sacrificing their livelihood if it did'nt help. look at them,and look at pictures of guys that played same sport 25 yrs ago. Some is better training/nutrition. But a lot of them are doping like hell. Bigger and yet faster. The human species did'nt evolve to become bigger and faster in 20 yrs on it's own.

Lotta pros take roids and dont break records,they take them to hang around and get the money. Where the hell else do you start off making 300,00 base a yr out of college.

It not only taints the game it is a bad example for kids. Lotta high school and younger too I'd bet are juicing. That's not good. It's not worth it, so any penalty they impose is fine by me.

[Speed Racer]

I pretty much agree with everything Greg has said in this thread. Baseball can blow me.

[Jay]

Feb 8, 2009 20:12:00 GMT -5 Sheryl Yoast said:

I take adderall

[easy]

Feb 9, 2009 11:23:27 GMT -5 Jay said:

Feb 8, 2009 20:12:00 GMT -5 Sheryl Yoast said:

I take adderall

why do you find that to be funny?

[Ebener 12]

Feb 9, 2009 10:35:43 GMT -5 Speed Racer said:

I pretty much agree with everything Greg has said in this thread. Baseball can blow me.

Yeah because the Pirates suck

[easy]

lol

[Speed Racer]

Feb 9, 2009 12:48:54 GMT -5 Ebener 12 said:

Feb 9, 2009 10:35:43 GMT -5 Speed Racer said:

I pretty much agree with everything Greg has said in this thread. Baseball can blow me.

Yeah because the Pirates suck

Pretty much.

[Ebener 12]

McLouth was a stud for me last year in fantasy, got him off of FA lol

[Ebener 12]

I at least respect ARod for doing an interview and coming completely clean, not many other guys have done that, none with his stature

[Speed Racer]

Feb 9, 2009 15:26:43 GMT -5 Ebener 12 said:

McLouth was a stud for me last year in fantasy, got him off of FA lol

He is a stud. He'll be playing for the Red Sox or Yankees soon enough.

[Ebener 12]

Feb 9, 2009 16:05:38 GMT -5 Speed Racer said:

Feb 9, 2009 15:26:43 GMT -5 Ebener 12 said:

McLouth was a stud for me last year in fantasy, got him off of FA lol

He is a stud. He'll be playing for the Red Sox or Yankees soon enough.

Yeah, that is very true. Perfect example of why a Salary Cap is needed. If not, a team like Pittsburgh (multiple other teams) doesn't even have a remote chance.

[Speed Racer]

Feb 9, 2009 16:07:07 GMT -5 Ebener 12 said:

Feb 9, 2009 16:05:38 GMT -5 Speed Racer said:

He is a stud. He'll be playing for the Red Sox or Yankees soon enough.

Yeah, that is very true. Perfect example of why a Salary Cap is needed. If not, a team like Pittsburgh (multiple other teams) doesn't even have a remote chance.

Yep. The Pirates had such a nasty outfield last season and yet had to trade all of it for the 'future'. I was so sad when they broke up those three.

[AllStar0608]

Feb 9, 2009 16:07:07 GMT -5 Ebener 12 said:

Feb 9, 2009 16:05:38 GMT -5 Speed Racer said:

He is a stud. He'll be playing for the Red Sox or Yankees soon enough.

Yeah, that is very true. Perfect example of why a Salary Cap is needed. If not, a team like Pittsburgh (multiple other teams) doesn't even have a remote chance.

ya cuz teams like tampa and colorado had those big spending owners. and florida and many other teams. its harder to do but if u have the right people in ur FO u can win without spending 100 mill.

[Speed Racer]

Feb 9, 2009 16:56:46 GMT -5 AllStar0608 said:

Feb 9, 2009 16:07:07 GMT -5 Ebener 12 said:

Yeah, that is very true. Perfect example of why a Salary Cap is needed. If not, a team like Pittsburgh (multiple other teams) doesn't even have a remote chance.

ya cuz teams like tampa and colorado had those big spending owners. and florida and many other teams. its harder to do but if u have the right people in ur FO u can win without spending 100 mill.

It can be done, but not for a sustained period of time. That's the problem with baseball. Small-market teams have to subscribe to the 'win every 6 or 7 years and then blow it the hell up' strategy. They are at such a huge disadvantage when compared to teams like the Yankees, Red Sox, etc.

Bill Simmons said in one of his articles last year that he was really upset about losing to the Rays until someone reminded him that they'll all be playing for the Red Sox in 2-3 seasons. That's the problem with baseball. Small-market teams have no chance of sustaining any long-term success.

[Ebener 12]

Feb 9, 2009 16:56:46 GMT -5 AllStar0608 said:

Feb 9, 2009 16:07:07 GMT -5 Ebener 12 said:

Yeah, that is very true. Perfect example of why a Salary Cap is needed. If not, a team like Pittsburgh (multiple other teams) doesn't even have a remote chance.

ya cuz teams like tampa and colorado had those big spending owners. and florida and many other teams. its harder to do but if u have the right people in ur FO u can win without spending 100 mill.

yeah and almost all of them have to tear it down right after they win it. makes sense..

[AllStar0608]

Feb 9, 2009 16:59:04 GMT -5 Speed Racer said:

Feb 9, 2009 16:56:46 GMT -5 AllStar0608 said:

ya cuz teams like tampa and colorado had those big spending owners. and florida and many other teams. its harder to do but if u have the right people in ur FO u can win without spending 100 mill.

It can be done, but not for a sustained period of time. That's the problem with baseball. Small-market teams have to subscribe to the 'win every 6 or 7 years and then blow it the hell up' strategy. They are at such a huge disadvantage when compared to teams like the Yankees, Red Sox, etc.

Bill Simmons said in one of his articles last year that he was really upset about losing to the Rays until someone reminded him that they'll all be playing for the Red Sox in 2-3 seasons. That's the problem with baseball. Small-market teams have no chance of sustaining any long-term success.

the indians in the 90s showed teams how to do it. u have to sign ur players long term before they hit arbitration. basically u have to pay them more early to pay them less later, but in the end u keep them longer and dont have to compete with the big market teams.

the reds have been dumb about shit for years, but they are starting to lock up their young players before they hit into all of this stuff and it allows them to sign their players for cheaper. the players see it as getting their money guaranteed faster and they dont have the concerns of an injury ruining their shot at a big contract or them having an off year and seeing less money.

[Phoenix Phil]

yup... the Rays did it with Longoria and the Marlins with Hanley.

[Ebener 12]

lol dunn just got a 2 year 20 million deal. oooopppppsssssss, come on marty your losing it completely