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Post by jahallstar on Mar 5, 2009 15:45:45 GMT -5
Yeah I'll fix it.
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Post by Gossip Girl on Mar 5, 2009 18:49:37 GMT -5
Whitehorse is my highest ranking player at 93. We should really be losing more.
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Post by Gossip Girl on Mar 5, 2009 18:53:35 GMT -5
I'm surprised Favors is 8th. Outlawz, how much does FG% get taken into account? Ya know I think I'm going to have to adjust this a little bit after looking into the formulas a little more. Keep in mind that the formula I use is not the same formula that Outlawz and Martinez are using here. I changed mine a little to make it more accurate but I think FG% is not taken into account enough. Currently 23 ppg 12 rpg 49% shooting would tie with 24 ppg 12 rpg 39% shooting. I think that the 10% is worth much more than 1 ppg. I think I might make it worth 3 ppg. Thoughts? I think there definitely has to be more of a discrepancy. Player rankings are supposed to be about efficiency not effectiveness right?
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Post by jahallstar on Mar 6, 2009 9:11:09 GMT -5
Ya know I think I'm going to have to adjust this a little bit after looking into the formulas a little more. Keep in mind that the formula I use is not the same formula that Outlawz and Martinez are using here. I changed mine a little to make it more accurate but I think FG% is not taken into account enough. Currently 23 ppg 12 rpg 49% shooting would tie with 24 ppg 12 rpg 39% shooting. I think that the 10% is worth much more than 1 ppg. I think I might make it worth 3 ppg. Thoughts? I think there definitely has to be more of a discrepancy. Player rankings are supposed to be about efficiency not effectiveness right? Well not exactly. The per 48 minutes ones are about efficiency.
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Post by Outlawz on Mar 6, 2009 10:52:27 GMT -5
This is not my formula. Will from NBN gave me the formula. I've noticed that it values players the same way FBB does specially when you look at the all league teams and ultimately that's the most important factor. I rather stick with these rankings than jah's.
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Post by Outlawz on Mar 6, 2009 10:57:17 GMT -5
lol yeah no thanks to you i had to ask jah.. it was cuz i was using Firefox I'm just a little smarter than Outlawz I guess....Nothing to be ashamed of on his part. ![;)](http://forum.rscnet.org/images/smilies/banana.gif) Too bad you havent used those smarts when it comes to being a GM As far as the whole percentage thing.. Your forgetting stats do no consist of just points/rebounds/fg%... assists/to's/blks/stls/ also play into it and its those little stats that make the real difference between good/bad and great.
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Post by jahallstar on Mar 6, 2009 11:19:02 GMT -5
lol...It was a joke buddy.
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Post by jahallstar on Mar 6, 2009 11:21:33 GMT -5
And just fyi....It is very rare that a top player will shoot 35-39% from the field and such...So you won't see the flaws in the top 10 usually. Don't fight change. You simply can't deny that FG% is taken into account to little. The example I gave is 100% proof of that. I can tell you how to make changes if you like. It is very easy and will take about a minute.
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Post by jahallstar on Mar 6, 2009 11:29:13 GMT -5
As far as the whole percentage thing.. Your forgetting stats do no consist of just points/rebounds/fg%... assists/to's/blks/stls/ also play into it and its those little stats that make the real difference between good/bad and great. Not sure why you think I forgot about that.... 23 PPG 5 APG 5 RPG 2 TOPG 1 BPG 1 SPG 35% shooting 23 PPG 4 APG 5 RPG 2 TOPG 1BPG 1 SPG 47% shooting Who should be rated higher? I'm pretty sure the formula you use doesn't even take 3 PT % into account also. Long story short. It was a great baseline but improvements can be made. I missed the fact that FG% is being shafted until is was brought up here. I can admit that it is a flaw that needs to be fixed. Always strive to make things better. It is how we evolve.
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Post by easy on Mar 6, 2009 11:36:25 GMT -5
As far as the whole percentage thing.. Your forgetting stats do no consist of just points/rebounds/fg%... assists/to's/blks/stls/ also play into it and its those little stats that make the real difference between good/bad and great. Not sure why you think I forgot about that.... 23 PPG 5 APG 5 RPG 2 TOPG 1 BPG 1 SPG 35% shooting 23 PPG 4 APG 5 RPG 2 TOPG 1BPG 1 SPG 47% shooting Who should be rated higher? I'm pretty sure the formula you use doesn't even take 3 PT % into account also. Long story short. It was a great baseline but improvements can be made. I missed the fact that FG% is being shafted until is was brought up here. I can admit that it is a flaw that needs to be fixed. Always strive to make things better. It is how we evolve. The formula takes into account 3pt%
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Post by jahallstar on Mar 6, 2009 11:47:25 GMT -5
What %?
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Post by easy on Mar 6, 2009 11:52:54 GMT -5
i dont know but it does...
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Post by jahallstar on Mar 6, 2009 12:11:53 GMT -5
lol...how can you tell? Just because it is in the spreadsheet does not mean it counts. You have to look at the formula. It very well may...I do know that originally it did not though.
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Post by Outlawz on Mar 6, 2009 13:22:34 GMT -5
i didnt make the formula.. i just know it works for me.. i find that its pretty good when ratings players.. Not fighting change.. FBB hasnt changed
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Post by Skillz on Mar 7, 2009 12:27:21 GMT -5
New lineup:
C: Andrew Bynum (10, 3rd center) PF: Serge Ibaka (50, 8th PF) SF: Karron Johnson (66, 11th SF) SG: Delvon Roe (15, 3rd SF) PG: Mike Conley 19, 6th PG)
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Post by Skillz on Mar 19, 2009 18:14:35 GMT -5
50
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