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Post by Spencer on Mar 23, 2009 14:01:50 GMT -5
The Rule....
The Hard Cap
-The Hard Cap is $85,000,000. You cannot go over the Hard Cap. If you do go over, you have 48 hours to get under. If you do not get under, you must forfeit your next 2 first round picks(If their are multiple picks I will decide), and you will also lose a player to waivers. You will also lose your MLE and LLE, and all FA privileges (even Bird rights) over the next 2 years.
The Penalty...
No FA for the Heat for the next 2 years. No MLE or LLE. No FA offers Days 1-5. No Bird offers. No resignings.
MIA 22 and 24 1sts are forfeited.
Tahir Carrington goes to waivers.
I thought hard about the player and I really only considered Jackson and Carrington. Jackson is young, and sims well, but he is a FA to be, so MIA will have to trade him and probably wont get good value for him. Freeman is solid, but his contract is huge and there are tons of players like him on the market. I decided on Carrington because I quite like how he sims, and he's relatively cheap. People said there are players like him that can be had cheaply, and while ratings wise this may be true, he sims better then most players with his ratings. His %'s are really good. 48 and 89. He is an awesome mid range shooter. His TOs are low and his Steals are solid. He isn't a star player, but I always envisioned the player being taken for the HC penalty as being the 3rd or 4th best player on the team. This is why the value of the player sometimes differs.
This will be the extent to which I explain this decision. Feel free to complain about it if you wish, but in all likelihood I wont read it.
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Post by Funky George! on Mar 23, 2009 14:05:05 GMT -5
He isn't a star player, but I always envisioned the player being taken for the HC penalty as being the 3rd or 4th best player on the team.
He's like the 7th best player on Miami. This blows. What is the argument that there are a lot of players like Freeman on the market? It's about who Miami deserves to lose. Frankly, because of how lazy Eb was, I'd expect him get the harshest penalty anyone has gotten, or at least a fair punishment. He loses a guy who makes no impact on his team, and that actually just helps him with worrying about being up against the cap in future seasons. This was handled really poorly, IMO.
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Mar 23, 2009 14:05:21 GMT -5
But Ebener isn't quitting, right?
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Post by easy on Mar 23, 2009 14:07:53 GMT -5
Ebener got handed a get out of jail free card.
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Post by Spencer on Mar 23, 2009 14:08:14 GMT -5
But Ebener isn't quitting, right? If Ebener quits within the next day I will reverse the HC penaly and allow the new GM 48 hours to get under. If he quits soon after, I will lessen the HC penalty.
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Post by Play on Mar 23, 2009 16:20:50 GMT -5
He isn't a star player, but I always envisioned the player being taken for the HC penalty as being the 3rd or 4th best player on the team. He's like the 7th best player on Miami. This blows. What is the argument that there are a lot of players like Freeman on the market? It's about who Miami deserves to lose. Frankly, because of how lazy Eb was, I'd expect him get the harshest penalty anyone has gotten, or at least a fair punishment. He loses a guy who makes no impact on his team, and that actually just helps him with worrying about being up against the cap in future seasons. This was handled really poorly, IMO.
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Post by DB on Mar 23, 2009 16:23:35 GMT -5
He isn't a star player, but I always envisioned the player being taken for the HC penalty as being the 3rd or 4th best player on the team. He's like the 7th best player on Miami. This blows. What is the argument that there are a lot of players like Freeman on the market? It's about who Miami deserves to lose. Frankly, because of how lazy Eb was, I'd expect him get the harshest penalty anyone has gotten, or at least a fair punishment. He loses a guy who makes no impact on his team, and that actually just helps him with worrying about being up against the cap in future seasons. This was handled really poorly, IMO. I agree.
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Post by GP on Mar 23, 2009 16:27:25 GMT -5
Whatever.
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Post by Gossip Girl on Mar 23, 2009 16:47:09 GMT -5
He isn't a star player, but I always envisioned the player being taken for the HC penalty as being the 3rd or 4th best player on the team. He's like the 7th best player on Miami. This blows. What is the argument that there are a lot of players like Freeman on the market? It's about who Miami deserves to lose. Frankly, because of how lazy Eb was, I'd expect him get the harshest penalty anyone has gotten, or at least a fair punishment. He loses a guy who makes no impact on his team, and that actually just helps him with worrying about being up against the cap in future seasons. This was handled really poorly, IMO.
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Post by easy on Mar 23, 2009 16:57:43 GMT -5
He isn't a star player, but I always envisioned the player being taken for the HC penalty as being the 3rd or 4th best player on the team. He's like the 7th best player on Miami. This blows. What is the argument that there are a lot of players like Freeman on the market? It's about who Miami deserves to lose. Frankly, because of how lazy Eb was, I'd expect him get the harshest penalty anyone has gotten, or at least a fair punishment. He loses a guy who makes no impact on his team, and that actually just helps him with worrying about being up against the cap in future seasons. This was handled really poorly, IMO.
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Post by Skillz on Mar 23, 2009 16:58:35 GMT -5
I wouldn't take Carrington for free
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Mar 23, 2009 17:40:17 GMT -5
Probably should've been Josh Smith... Carrington is really mediocre. Oh well
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Post by Rocky on Mar 23, 2009 17:49:29 GMT -5
100% agree with Aaron. No Rubio, no Oden, whatever. IDK why Josh Smith was off-limits when David West wasn't though.
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Post by AllStar0608 on Mar 23, 2009 19:56:19 GMT -5
if the whole league thinks it should be josh smith then why not do so spence?
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Post by GP on Mar 23, 2009 20:02:21 GMT -5
This is not really a penalty but whatever.
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Post by Outlawz on Mar 23, 2009 20:08:20 GMT -5
I mean he'll have to move Oden because he expires in 2 years.. so hes basically losing picks, oden, carrington. I just hope he doesn't quit
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Post by Spencer on Mar 23, 2009 20:10:21 GMT -5
I think this penalty is huge.
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Post by GP on Mar 23, 2009 20:11:09 GMT -5
I think Ebs is done. This is pretty dismotivating. Need some new blood in here.
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Post by Spencer on Mar 23, 2009 20:13:26 GMT -5
Is dismotivating a word?
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Post by AllStar0608 on Mar 23, 2009 22:16:37 GMT -5
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Post by Ebener 12 on Mar 24, 2009 2:56:16 GMT -5
He isn't a star player, but I always envisioned the player being taken for the HC penalty as being the 3rd or 4th best player on the team. He's like the 7th best player on Miami. This blows. What is the argument that there are a lot of players like Freeman on the market? It's about who Miami deserves to lose. Frankly, because of how lazy Eb was, I'd expect him get the harshest penalty anyone has gotten, or at least a fair punishment. He loses a guy who makes no impact on his team, and that actually just helps him with worrying about being up against the cap in future seasons. This was handled really poorly, IMO. Why do you always have to act so intense? I had some days where I was really busy, that happens. How does that make me lazy? I want to stay here but I don't want to if people are going to whine about the penalty. I haven't even had a PM with Spencer. We had a mis-communicaton regarding the HC. He text'd me saying I was over. I said did anyone offer a deal? He said yes and told me it. I replied yeah. I thought he would know that meant yeah i'll obviously take the deal. He didn't and I wasn't on a computer this whole weekend.
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Post by Ebener 12 on Mar 24, 2009 2:56:48 GMT -5
I think Ebs is done. This is pretty dismotivating. Need some new blood in here. Feel free to quit
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Post by Ebener 12 on Mar 24, 2009 2:57:38 GMT -5
I mean he'll have to move Oden because he expires in 2 years.. so hes basically losing picks, oden, carrington. I just hope he doesn't quit what a coincidence, you make sense.
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Post by GP on Mar 24, 2009 3:10:05 GMT -5
I think Ebs is done. This is pretty dismotivating. Need some new blood in here. Feel free to quit I meant dis-motivating for you.
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Post by Ebener 12 on Mar 24, 2009 3:10:34 GMT -5
I meant dis-motivating for you. I'm just joking around, I know
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