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Post by dj on Apr 13, 2009 21:03:22 GMT -5
Hawks get:
Josh Smith
Raptors get:
Issel
Hawks 22 1st
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Post by Speed Racer on Apr 13, 2009 21:04:36 GMT -5
God, the Hawks franchise is raped.
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Post by Speed Racer on Apr 13, 2009 21:05:03 GMT -5
Obviously, awful for the Hawks. Just moving Issel for Smith would've been bad.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 13, 2009 21:05:40 GMT -5
This is veto worthy.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 13, 2009 21:06:25 GMT -5
No way I process this and Apn might just get fired tonight. Horrible horrible deal.
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Post by Rocky on Apr 13, 2009 21:06:54 GMT -5
I really don't think he can destroy the team for the next guy. It is ridiculous.
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Post by Skillz on Apr 13, 2009 21:07:04 GMT -5
hahahahha
i told him this on PM 5 minutes ago
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Post by Derwin on Apr 13, 2009 21:07:08 GMT -5
Ridiculous.
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Post by ApNeDtRiEeW on Apr 13, 2009 21:07:42 GMT -5
sure
either i miraculously make it and have a a ton of cap after next season or the guy who takes over has the cap. Sorry bout the picks though.
Issel has gone down the past 3 TC's and will never be the player he once was.
Smith/Hans/Cousins is nice though, no denying that
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Post by Skillz on Apr 13, 2009 21:07:48 GMT -5
I've given him too younger options in both bad trades he's made and he chose to go old and fucked his future gm.
he could have had chau. and he could have st cloud and orton in a deal for cruise
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Post by ApNeDtRiEeW on Apr 13, 2009 21:08:51 GMT -5
really? i see it as getting 3 great defenders for my frontcourt.
the pick i guess i dont care about...for that reason I can see people being upset.
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Post by nybombers3 on Apr 13, 2009 21:09:39 GMT -5
Obviously, awful for the Hawks. Just moving Issel for Smith would've been bad. Issel isn't exactly sexy looking. |
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Post by ApNeDtRiEeW on Apr 13, 2009 21:10:00 GMT -5
the next GM will have millions in cap to work with, the GM before me traded away my 23/24 picks so its not like he can buld through the draft.
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Post by Skillz on Apr 13, 2009 21:10:26 GMT -5
issel sucks
smith isn't near worth the 1st though, he's like 35
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Post by Speed Racer on Apr 13, 2009 21:10:42 GMT -5
Obviously, awful for the Hawks. Just moving Issel for Smith would've been bad. Issel isn't exactly sexy looking. No, but he's better than Josh Smith at this point. Smith is old. He sucks. Plus, this Hawks first blows. |
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Post by Spencer on Apr 13, 2009 21:10:59 GMT -5
Obviously, awful for the Hawks. Just moving Issel for Smith would've been bad. Issel isn't exactly sexy looking. I agree. I just think for this pick he could get something better. |
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Post by ApNeDtRiEeW on Apr 13, 2009 21:12:14 GMT -5
Issel isn't exactly sexy looking. No, but he's better than Josh Smith at this point. Smith is old. He sucks. Plus, this Hawks first blows. Maybe on offense but as far as an overall player id much much rather have an A/A- defender/rebounder at my SF spot than a C+ one. |
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Post by Derwin on Apr 13, 2009 21:12:15 GMT -5
Why is Issel playing so few minutes?
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Post by nybombers3 on Apr 13, 2009 21:12:46 GMT -5
Issel isn't exactly sexy looking. No, but he's better than Josh Smith at this point. Smith is old. He sucks. Plus, this Hawks first blows. Right now? Not exactly. Issel for Smith would've been fine with me. Stop thinking of Issel from 3-5 years ago. Adding the pick is overkill. |
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Post by Spencer on Apr 13, 2009 21:14:26 GMT -5
I dont think Issel is special at all, but Smith is old and this pick is very valuable. He shouldve tried to upgrade one of his crappy players with the pick, not one of his better players.
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Post by ApNeDtRiEeW on Apr 13, 2009 21:14:33 GMT -5
Issel isn't exactly sexy looking. I agree. I just think for this pick he could get something better. I didnt shop it around too much today but it recieved no interest since I put it in my trade block. Smith is better for me than Issel hands down, the pick will get worse. Just a matter of how much worse. And like I said...the new GM will have all the cap possible minus cousins to work with. |
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Post by dj on Apr 13, 2009 21:14:43 GMT -5
Smith is 17/10 as a non option... with A defense at sf, A- at pf/c... he's easily a better overall player than Issel, even at 35 years old.
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Post by Gossip Girl on Apr 13, 2009 21:15:13 GMT -5
Smith/Hans/Cousins FTW
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Post by Spencer on Apr 13, 2009 21:15:32 GMT -5
Smith is 17/10 as a non option... with A defense at sf, A- at pf/c... he's easily a better overall player than Issel, even at 35 years old. DJ, your opinion is completely useless here because you never do a trade unless you see it as a huge win. |
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Post by Spencer on Apr 13, 2009 21:15:57 GMT -5
I agree. I just think for this pick he could get something better. I didnt shop it around too much today but it recieved no interest since I put it in my trade block. Smith is better for me than Issel hands down, the pick will get worse. Just a matter of how much worse. And like I said...the new GM will have all the cap possible minus cousins to work with. Cap doesnt win shit. |
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