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Post by Gossip Girl on Apr 13, 2009 21:15:58 GMT -5
Smith is 17/10 as a non option... with A defense at sf, A- at pf/c... he's easily a better overall player than Issel, even at 35 years old. DJ, please don't try to justify this trade. I wonder how quickly he rushed to post this.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 13, 2009 21:16:20 GMT -5
Vetoed.
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Post by dj on Apr 13, 2009 21:16:46 GMT -5
Really? I gave away Aminu for free. I gave Philly Portlands pick so i could get expirings in order to resign Bueno in the off season...
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Post by Derwin on Apr 13, 2009 21:16:56 GMT -5
Trade out
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Post by Gossip Girl on Apr 13, 2009 21:17:09 GMT -5
You can give me Josh Smith
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Post by ApNeDtRiEeW on Apr 13, 2009 21:18:05 GMT -5
he does win the trade, Issel is younger and the pick right now is awesome.
But Issel has declined to the point where all he is good for is about 18-20 ppg with horrible defense, and I dont see how there is anyway this pick doesnt rise at least 4-5 spots from where it is now
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Post by nybombers3 on Apr 13, 2009 21:18:22 GMT -5
I dont think Issel is special at all, but Smith is old and this pick is very valuable. He shouldve tried to upgrade one of his crappy players with the pick, not one of his better players. I agree 100%. I'm just saying. Issel sucks ass.
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Post by dj on Apr 13, 2009 21:18:35 GMT -5
I traded the hornets his pick back for Orton, aminu and Donovan... yea, ill call bullshit on this one.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 13, 2009 21:18:48 GMT -5
Ive allowed worse trades to go through, but this needs to stop tonight. APN is a nice guy and a decent GM but he wasnt given much to work with to start and he dragged his feet in trading to get better. The MEM/ATL franchise is probably the 2nd worst franchise in the league and I need to stop the bleeding right now.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 13, 2009 21:19:25 GMT -5
I traded the hornets his pick back for Orton, aminu and Donovan... yea, ill call bullshit on this one. At the time that was actually a damn good trade for you.
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Post by dj on Apr 13, 2009 21:19:30 GMT -5
I guess i should have changed my name to Outlaws or something more popular.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 13, 2009 21:19:52 GMT -5
APN is fired. New Gm takes over tonight. Its abrupt and rather harsh but it has to be done.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 13, 2009 21:20:25 GMT -5
I guess i should have changed my name to Outlaws or something more popular. LOL, trade wouldve been vetoed faster if it was Outlawz. Everyone knows that, lol.
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Post by nybombers3 on Apr 13, 2009 21:21:58 GMT -5
Ouch.
The problem with the Hawks started in the off season IMO. He has no salary to move right now. He should've tried to sign guys to big 1 year contracts instead of just one guy. That way, he could've had a bunch of options. APN did ok when his back was to the wall though. Hopefully he sticks around as an assitant.
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Post by ApNeDtRiEeW on Apr 13, 2009 21:22:16 GMT -5
now im getting fired?
wow, fuck this
Issel<<<<Smith, he's an A defender, A- rebounder, A- inside. So much better for a chance to win. The only problem is the pick which won't be as good as it is now.
This is ridiculous
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Post by Spencer on Apr 13, 2009 21:23:01 GMT -5
Ouch. The problem with the Hawks started in the off season IMO. He has no salary to move right now. He should've tried to sign guys to big 1 year contracts instead of just one guy. That way, he could've had a bunch of options. APN did ok when his back was to the wall though. Hopefully he sticks around as an assitant. He didnt do that well though. I mean this trade and the last trade were both pretty horrible.
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Post by ApNeDtRiEeW on Apr 13, 2009 21:24:09 GMT -5
dont deserve this shit. not worth getting the boot anyway
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Post by dj on Apr 13, 2009 21:24:30 GMT -5
are going to go back and veto the Cruise trade?
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Post by Spencer on Apr 13, 2009 21:24:43 GMT -5
now im getting fired? wow, fuck this Issel<<<<Smith, he's an A defender, A- rebounder, A- inside. So much better for a chance to win. The only problem is the pick which won't be as good as it is now. This is ridiculous I gave you a long leash to make mistakes and you took too long to make your team better. I cant allow you to make bad trade after bad trade. Sorry man.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 13, 2009 21:25:11 GMT -5
are going to go back and veto the Cruise trade? Nope. Why would I? Its already processed.
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Post by Derwin on Apr 13, 2009 21:25:23 GMT -5
are going to go back and veto the Cruise trade? Don't bring me into this.
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Post by Spencer on Apr 13, 2009 21:25:42 GMT -5
dont deserve this shit. not worth getting the boot anyway Its possible no one agrees with me here, but I see a chance to actually make this franchise okay in the long term with this decision.
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Post by nybombers3 on Apr 13, 2009 21:26:16 GMT -5
Ouch. The problem with the Hawks started in the off season IMO. He has no salary to move right now. He should've tried to sign guys to big 1 year contracts instead of just one guy. That way, he could've had a bunch of options. APN did ok when his back was to the wall though. Hopefully he sticks around as an assitant. He didnt do that well though. I mean this trade and the last trade were both pretty horrible. I wouldn't say horrible. Not great but at least he tried.
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Post by ApNeDtRiEeW on Apr 13, 2009 21:28:03 GMT -5
now im getting fired? wow, fuck this Issel<<<<Smith, he's an A defender, A- rebounder, A- inside. So much better for a chance to win. The only problem is the pick which won't be as good as it is now. This is ridiculous I gave you a long leash to make mistakes and you took too long to make your team better. I cant allow you to make bad trade after bad trade. Sorry man. lol whats bad trade after bad trade? I made a move (maybe a little late) to get 2 awesome post guys to bring this team back, then I go out and find a SF with A-,A,A- ratings to help even more and because I lose my first this year im gone? ok....not going to argue anymore. peace
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Post by dj on Apr 13, 2009 21:28:21 GMT -5
dont deserve this shit. not worth getting the boot anyway Its possible no one agrees with me here, but I see a chance to actually make this franchise okay in the long term with this decision. it should have started with the last trade, when he dealt a 22 year old stud for a 30 and 35 year old. If you're gonna do stuff like this it has to be consistent.. not, oh its Dj, im gonna jump in...
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