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Post by GMGreggor on Jan 5, 2008 12:05:27 GMT -5
Think I've seen enuff of the BCS and it's so called
I'm pretty sure LSU and OSU arent the 2 best teams this year. The BCS has gotten lucky a few times in the past but by and large I think it takes too many teams out of it for really no reason other than the stupid BCS ratings.
I think I'd prefer they just go back to the old voting for title way.
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Post by KJKeelty on Jan 5, 2008 12:06:47 GMT -5
I'd like to at least see USC play the winner of this OSU/LSU.game.
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Post by GMGreggor on Jan 5, 2008 12:13:47 GMT -5
Agreed, and I hate USC.
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Post by Funky George! on Jan 5, 2008 12:36:41 GMT -5
USC is a great team, and I think they'd take the title this year, but it's not like they're getting shafted. Everyone knows the way the BCS works, and the top two teams in the BCS format are definitely the teams playing for the title.
So there's no controversy on who should be playing in the title game under the BCS, but that doesn't mean they're the two best teams. Teams put it together late in the season pretty damn often, especially when they're plagued by injury. They finish as better teams than the teams that were able to stay healthy and only lose once, or even twice this year. Since a computerized system won't give recognition to that, yet we can all acknowledge that USC has all the talent and is playing unbelievably, I just want a four team tournament. I don't care about the fifth team feeling like it's getting shafted, because that's nonsense, but it's definitely a productive idea to give four teams a shot. Because I don't think LSU/OSU is that dominant, just like Florida wasn't last year. These teams can be beat by the likes of USC, maybe Georgia and it would do so much for the popularity of bowl season.
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Post by KJKeelty on Jan 5, 2008 12:42:20 GMT -5
USC is a great team, and I think they'd take the title this year, but it's not like they're getting shafted. Everyone knows the way the BCS works, and the top two teams in the BCS format are definitely the teams playing for the title. So there's no controversy on who should be playing in the title game under the BCS, but that doesn't mean they're the two best teams. Teams put it together late in the season pretty damn often, especially when they're plagued by injury. They finish as better teams than the teams that were able to stay healthy and only lose once, or even twice this year. Since a computerized system won't give recognition to that, yet we can all acknowledge that USC has all the talent and is playing unbelievably, I just want a four team tournament. I don't care about the fifth team feeling like it's getting shafted, because that's nonsense, but it's definitely a productive idea to give four teams a shot. Because I don't think LSU/OSU is that dominant, just like Florida wasn't last year. These teams can be beat by the likes of USC, maybe Georgia and it would do so much for the popularity of bowl season. Yeah, I'd go for a Final Four type of deal too.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Jan 5, 2008 13:14:52 GMT -5
the BCS sucks... USC shouldnt have lost to Stanford so they dont really deserve to be there (which is the case you can make for everyteam this year)
playoff system seems like a good idea but it would cause more problems then most people think... it would come down to more of health and gameplanning in a week rather than may the best team win like bowl system works
i think going back to the old system would cause more controversy because there isnt a set winner either and too much controversy after having a set winner every year for the last 10 years
there isnt a real winning situation at this point... my idea which isnt perfect either is
1.add the cotton bowl to BCS when new Dallas Cowboy stadium is finished 2.though i dont want the big east to have a decided location for its BCS game make the Cotton Bowl the Big East BCS game 3. Play the 5 BCS Bowl Games (Orange Sugar Fiesta Rose Cotton) with conference winners and at large teams 4. After the games are played announce announce the BCS Standings and the top 2 ranked conference winners get to play for the Championship in the NCG (give them 2 weeks to prepare for game)
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Post by GMGreggor on Jan 5, 2008 15:23:24 GMT -5
I'd be fine with a final four. But the way it is now even more than the way it used to be it's bogus. Some conferences have title games. Thats not fair to them or the teams that dont.
Teams can catapult in the standings and fall like a rock because of them. And the conferences that dont have title games have teams that get leapfrogged because of the conferences that do sometimes.
And really why cant there be a playoff system? They have what 2 months after end of season till bowl games? Why cant they be playing then?Academics? That doesnt stop the basketball programs from playing. And I know they supposedly make money off the bowl games but wouldnt teams make just as much money scheduling good opponents at home since they wouldnt have to be so afraid of losing and losing precious spots in rankings?
Only a handful of bowls mean anything anyway,well really only 1 since thats the title game. Use other Bowl games as playoffs.
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Post by lock on Jan 5, 2008 16:34:16 GMT -5
Georgia and USC seem to be the top teams but bad losses hurt them. I would love a 4 team playoff system.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Jan 5, 2008 17:18:03 GMT -5
there is like are about 10 days between last games and bowl season greg... not 2 months
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Post by cjmjones008 on Jan 5, 2008 17:22:13 GMT -5
also greg... the long break probably has to do with there used to only be a couple of bowl games and they were on New Year's Day and they have continued to add them to fill the space in between
there is no way a team will make more by scheduling a good team in regular season that is good rather than a bowl game... most bowl games could not sell a ticket and make a ton of money because of tv contracts
also you apparently dont know you schedule your football schedule years in advance not in the offseason so its not like you know who is going to actually be good that year
most bowl games matter to teams because there is always a feel good story or team trying to rise up for a big win for the program or something... only one may result in a national championship but to say only one matters is stupid
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Post by cjmjones008 on Jan 5, 2008 17:24:29 GMT -5
also a 4 team playoff this year would have had lsu ohio st vt oklahoma
3 of those 4 are going to lose their bowl game and the other is overrated... 4 team playoff is not the answer either
there isnt a correct answer
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Post by GMGreggor on Jan 5, 2008 18:23:21 GMT -5
there is like are about 10 days between last games and bowl season greg... not 2 months Thats incorrect CJ. The regular college football season ended November 24. Conference championships were next weekend. Last Bowl game is Jan. 7th. Throw out the conf championships and you have basically a month and a half to crown a champion. Most teams dont really pocket as much money as you'd think from the Bowl games. Check this out from USA today www.usatoday.com/sports/football/sfc/sfcfs69.htm
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Post by cjmjones008 on Jan 5, 2008 18:39:58 GMT -5
the wvu pitt game was not a conference championship game and it was dec 1 or whatever... the lower bowls began what dec 20 this year... i know that used to be earlier
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Post by cjmjones008 on Jan 5, 2008 22:52:33 GMT -5
i misunderstood you on the money thing... i meant the people who run the games make regardless of the amount of fans that go
i don't think any team makes a profit on the earlier bowl games because they have to pay to transport normally around 150 people and pay for their rooms and food for about a week... games without big payouts arent going to cover that
scheduling big time opponents in regular season may result in more money for the home game but playing a cupcake every year and selling that game out other than playing a good school every other year and selling that out ownt make a huge difference in money from what i know... there are advantages of playing the small schools as are the big schools but playing the small schools has less risk
also its not like knowing that instead of being in the top 2 you have to be in the top 4 to have a chance at NT... people are still going to schedule cupcakes
the same goes for any amount of teams in playoffs
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