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Post by Phoenix Phil on Feb 28, 2008 19:03:50 GMT -5
I actually think the Bulls with either Grant or Rodman are similar,they're interchangeable to me. Grant was a better scorer but Rodman was a better def/reb. Six of one, half dozen the other you know. But lets go with Rodman since those were probably better teams I think. If Rodman covers McHale then Longley or Purdue cover Parrish which is a mismatch. The chief was a very good C. Not quite on superstar level but a notch below. I dont think the Bulls could match up with both the Celts bigs. Rodman did'nt shut down McHale. By the time Detroit was beating the Celts in playoffs McHale's back was so bad he was a shell of his former self. As was Bird. McHale was very underated and had an inside and outside game. Plus he had arms of I think a 7'7 guy or something like that which on a 6'10 frame was hell for any other PF. And Kareem was a great passing big man. I think if the Bulls went to double down on Kareem and he thorws it out to Byron Scott,Cooper,hell even Magic that makes for a short series with the Bulls. And then Worthy slashing to the basket. Those Lakers teams were the best I think I ever saw. Kidd and Barkley didnt play together. KJ was the Suns PG then. But none of those teams the Bulls beat were ever considered great. Even the Lakers in the Bulls first championship were without Worthy and Kareem. That was a testament to Magic's greatness in my view to get them there without them. Magic was the best player I ever saw,including Jordan. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one Aaron. Just saw that, I know KJ was Barkley's PG, didn't realize I wrote Kidd. I just don't think it's fair to reduce those Bulls teams to Jordan/Pipped. Rodman's a top five all-time power forward if you ask me. It would be like mentioning the 03-04 Pistons without mentioning Ben Wallace, except a way better edition. I like Rodman, but where does he fit in the top 5 with the likes of Duncan, Garnett, Malone, McHale, and Barkley around?
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Post by Funky George! on Feb 28, 2008 19:13:34 GMT -5
Just saw that, I know KJ was Barkley's PG, didn't realize I wrote Kidd. I just don't think it's fair to reduce those Bulls teams to Jordan/Pipped. Rodman's a top five all-time power forward if you ask me. It would be like mentioning the 03-04 Pistons without mentioning Ben Wallace, except a way better edition. I like Rodman, but where does he fit in the top 5 with the likes of Duncan, Garnett, Malone, McHale, and Barkley around? Right there. Best defender, rebounder out of any of those guys, and Malone, KG and Barkley don't have rings.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Feb 28, 2008 21:42:52 GMT -5
Not too diminish their value, but Rodman won those rings as a supporting player. He was the perfect player to compliment a star player, but there's no way he could ever play the role Malone and Barkley played for their teams.
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Post by Funky George! on Feb 28, 2008 21:59:04 GMT -5
Not too diminish their value, but Rodman won those rings as a supporting player. He was the perfect player to compliment a star player, but there's no way he could ever play the role Malone and Barkley played for their teams. Hey, there's gotta be something said for actually winning. Lakers, Celts, Pistons, Spurs, Rockets, Magic, Lakers again, Heat...these are teams that have all won with great play from their big men. Even when you go historically, big men win championships. The old Knicks had Reed/Lucas, everyone knows about the Celts and Lakers. The Bulls didn't win with a big man doing 25 ppg, but they still won. I'd say it had something to do with having the best rebounder and probably the best defender at the 4 during Rodman's stay. Rodman isn't a complete player, you're right. But if I have scorers like MJ, Pippen, Kukoc, I might prefer having the guy who's going to grab 10 offensive rebounds anyway. He's way underrated historically.
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Post by Spencer on Feb 29, 2008 0:46:56 GMT -5
Hernando, what exactly are you asking here? I think the question couldve been clearer.
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Post by Garf2000 on Feb 29, 2008 1:25:00 GMT -5
Funny guy.
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Post by GMGreggor on Mar 1, 2008 10:40:23 GMT -5
A thread is like a river to me. It has ebb and flows and will change directions on you. As did this thread.
Lakers are best team right now when healthy. I think they beat the Celts in the Finals.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Mar 1, 2008 10:43:01 GMT -5
The Lakers are the best team right now. I have had a feeling they are going to lose in round 2 for awhile now though.
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