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Post by Apollo on Aug 24, 2009 20:00:00 GMT -5
Marty, go fuck yourself. You are never right about anything we ever discuss, so STFU. There is only a handful of people here who know as much as I do about football. If there is one thing I'm confident in discussing it's football and there hasn't been one time where you've "proven me wrong." But no one ever "proves you wrong" of anything.
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Post by Skillz on Aug 24, 2009 22:14:23 GMT -5
i didn't know writing the word "preseason..." was overreacting.
I must be a spazz
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Post by Ebener 12 on Aug 24, 2009 22:15:54 GMT -5
i didn't know writing the word "preseason..." was overreacting. I must be a spazz lol you must be because that wasn't directed at the "preseason" comment. are you kiddin me?
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Post by Skillz on Aug 24, 2009 22:17:28 GMT -5
you said "you guys were overreacting" while marty was the only one being a dick.
Regarding football, Leon Washington is a man child.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Aug 25, 2009 8:12:05 GMT -5
you said "you guys were overreacting" while marty was the only one being a dick. Regarding football, Leon Washington is a man child. I was being a dick for saying the same exact thing that Jordan and Scott did in regards to Troy Williamson? You are a fucking moron... now THAT'S being a dick even if it is the truth.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Aug 25, 2009 8:14:48 GMT -5
There is only a handful of people here who know as much as I do about football. If there is one thing I'm confident in discussing it's football and there hasn't been one time where you've "proven me wrong." haha, go check the salary thread. when are you gonna figure it out? the same thread where everyone said I was right and you were wrong? Yeah, I remember that thread. and yes, I'm the one overexagerating claiming a guy who's had two solid(nothing spectacular) games in the PRESEASON is the steal of the off-season for the Jags. The Jags have one offensive weapon. His name is MJD. That's it.
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Post by Jay on Aug 25, 2009 10:06:03 GMT -5
Kevin Smith and CalvinJohnson. I'm happy.
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Post by Matt on Aug 25, 2009 10:58:56 GMT -5
That will change after week 1.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Aug 25, 2009 12:14:52 GMT -5
I think Ebener finally realized Williamson isn't making the probowl this year
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Post by Ebener 12 on Aug 25, 2009 12:17:17 GMT -5
I think Ebener finally realized Williamson isn't making the probowl this year holy shit. you are a moron. saying he's a steal for a 6th round pick makes him pro bowl worthy? quit being fucking stupid and putting words in my mouth.
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Post by Funky George! on Aug 25, 2009 12:18:45 GMT -5
k lets lock this
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Post by Ebener 12 on Aug 25, 2009 12:19:56 GMT -5
no, that's dumb. people disagree with me so they come in here and make up fucking stuff that i never even said. but no one cares, they just go along with it.
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Post by Ebener 12 on Aug 25, 2009 12:23:26 GMT -5
Kevin Smith and CalvinJohnson. I'm happy. If Stafford can be at least an average quarterback this year, then Johnson could be the #1 WR.
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Post by Funky George! on Aug 25, 2009 12:23:42 GMT -5
all they are doing is making jokes to get a rise out of you and you keep playing into it. entire thread is brutal, completely lacking any worthwhile nfl talk, needs to go away, etc.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Aug 25, 2009 12:25:32 GMT -5
A 6th rounder for Williamson was a steal for the Vikings
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Post by Ebener 12 on Aug 25, 2009 12:28:09 GMT -5
nice
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Post by cjmjones008 on Aug 25, 2009 12:31:02 GMT -5
I'm just saying. What warranted giving up a 6th rounder? Hes a bust who had a major issue with the team.
Would you have thought a 6th rounder for Reggie Williams would have been a steal?
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Post by Ebener 12 on Aug 25, 2009 12:34:39 GMT -5
The fact that he was a former 1st round pick who is one of the fastest guys in the NFL. If he sharpens up his route running and hands, then for a 6th round pick, you get a great deal.
He's got the physical ability, so it's alot easier to teach and mold a guy like that. Do you really think he had no shot of being good if Mike Tice (Coach with the Jags now), who drafted Troy and was with him the whole time lobbied to get him?
He is #2 right now on the Jags Depth Chart, for a 6th round pick, that is excellent value. I watched the game tape and the whole second quarter Williamson got doubled, but I'm sure that was just a coincidence too, dude has 0 ability.
Look at the former NFL DPOY. How many times was he cut?
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Post by Ebener 12 on Aug 25, 2009 12:37:21 GMT -5
The only thing I got pissed about was how much you guys exaggerrated my thoughts of him.
A steal for a 6th round pick doesn't equal the value of a pro bowler necessarily. If we get a guy who comes in and is a productive #2 for that pick, then it's absolutely a steal.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Aug 25, 2009 12:46:02 GMT -5
The fact that he was a former 1st round pick who is one of the fastest guys in the NFL. If he sharpens up his route running and hands, then for a 6th round pick, you get a great deal. I didn't even bother to read the rest because according to this statement Ryan Leaf would have been a steal if he could actually play QB.
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Post by Ebener 12 on Aug 25, 2009 12:47:45 GMT -5
The fact that he was a former 1st round pick who is one of the fastest guys in the NFL. If he sharpens up his route running and hands, then for a 6th round pick, you get a great deal. I didn't even bother to read the rest because according to this statement Ryan Leaf would have been a steal if he could actually play QB. You wouldn't read the rest because there's nothing you can bitch about. And what the hell are you talking about?
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Aug 25, 2009 12:58:25 GMT -5
and now reading the rest of your idiocy... I will comment on that.
Just because you have the athletic or as you put it "physical ability" to be strong and fast above the average doesn't mean it will translate into real life. Just look at Jerry Rice. He was never the strongest or fastest WR in the NFL but is among the best if not THE best WR to ever play this game. Hence why alot of guys have failed to make the transition into the NFL. It isn't about straight line speed. Williamson can not run a route and has hands of stone. How do you drop a wide-open bomb time after time after time?
So because a now current coach of yours(who was terrible when he was Minnesota by the way) drafted this guy, he has to have SOME kind of talent to be good? How long does it take to mold a WR? This isn't an Antonio Bryant, Donte Stallworth, Joe Horn, etc situation where they have shown signs of brilliance and it took them awhile to finally be considered "good." Troy Williamson in his what 3-4 years in the NFL hasn't had ONE good season to even warrant a statement that he will be good. He has the speed WHO CARES he sucks at everything else that counts to be a good WR in this league.
Surely, being the Jags fan that you are would know that the only reason he's listed as the #2 right now is because Mike Walker is out with an injury. Other than that... who would really start over him? Matt Jones? Or let's break Jimmy Smith and Keenan McCardell out of retirement! They'd go along great with Torry Holt! Give me a break... being a Bucs fan I know our secondary is no where near the caliber they have been in previous seasons... and the "doubling" you are referring to is called a zone-defense something the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have been running for years.
Really? He's the product of an incredible defensive system... don't you think there's a reason he was only good when he got to Pittsburgh? That's not to take away anything from Harrison but that system down in Pittsburgh fits he and the Steelers perfectly.
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Post by Funky George! on Aug 25, 2009 13:01:28 GMT -5
they released matt jones though
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Aug 25, 2009 13:02:07 GMT -5
they released matt jones though he's also suspended from the NFL.. hence why I was being sarcastic.
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Post by Ebener 12 on Aug 25, 2009 13:04:23 GMT -5
He just caught a bomb, if you are a Bucs fan I assume you saw it, it was the first fucking play of the game haha.
And go watch again (or for the first time) , the doubling was not the result of zone-defense.
Once again, you completely ignored what I was saying about Tice. He's a stud assistant coach and if he is lobbiying for a guy, then I will stand by him.
haha, yeah the 3-4 fits him perfectly but he went from being cut 3 times to the best defensive player in the league. terrible response there marty.
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