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Post by Spencer on Sept 8, 2009 19:09:23 GMT -5
1. Reward teams that don't owe picks.
Each year before RCs I will give each team that does not currently owe a 1st 1 RC. This would reward those that don't trade owed picks.
2. RCs for owed picks.
Allow teams to trade the rights to an owed pick for an RC, while also eliminating any owed picks in the future.
3. No more new owed picks
No trades with owed picks will be processed from here on out, and previous owed picks will still be owed.
4. Leave as is
Don't change the system.
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Post by dj on Sept 8, 2009 19:12:13 GMT -5
3. No more new owed picks
No trades with owed picks will be processed from here on out, and previous owed picks will still be owed.
What is forcing people to actually pay up?
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Post by Spencer on Sept 8, 2009 19:12:58 GMT -5
3. No more new owed picks No trades with owed picks will be processed from here on out, and previous owed picks will still be owed. What is forcing people to actually pay up? The fact that its a game and were supposedly friends. Why would people want to cheat? |
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Post by Spencer on Sept 8, 2009 19:14:12 GMT -5
We might do 2 polls. So well go from 4 to 2 choices, and then from 2 to 1.
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Post by Scott on Sept 8, 2009 19:14:04 GMT -5
Voted for RCs for Owed picks. Most people that I have dealt with have been fine with giving me owed picks if they owed them. Aaron, however, is sitting on his top 20 he has owed me (only 2 seasons though). We've talked about that in the past though, and I'm not concerned about him not paying it.
However, what made me want to do away with it was Play's downright refusal to follow through with these. Considering most people are good about paying picks, it's just not fair for people to knowingly offer picks and then have no intention of paying up.
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Post by Scott on Sept 8, 2009 19:16:02 GMT -5
I like the idea of having an Owed 1st. It carries more weight than a second but not as much weight as a defined 1st. These are real nice to have when the value in a deal needs a mediocre 1st in it. But, if there is a precedent set of someone refusing to pay up, I just think we might as well do away with the whole idea.
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Post by dj on Sept 8, 2009 19:16:06 GMT -5
3. No more new owed picks No trades with owed picks will be processed from here on out, and previous owed picks will still be owed. What is forcing people to actually pay up? The fact that its a game and were supposedly friends. Why would people want to cheat? Well, looking at the owed picks thread.. it appears people have failed to pay up... so if this happens, there should be some penalty for the team that doesn't pay and compensation for the team that is owed. |
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Post by Spencer on Sept 8, 2009 19:18:53 GMT -5
Most people do pay up, some don't. I mean we only have a couple that are beyond the date of payment it hasn't been that bad, but when Gms threaten to not pay up it becomes a problem. Ive never had a problem with owed picks until Play this year. I mean I don't value them, and whenever I run a team I don't trade for them, but its never been a big deal to me.
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Post by Speed Racer on Sept 8, 2009 19:19:50 GMT -5
The fact that its a game and were supposedly friends. Why would people want to cheat? Well, looking at the owed picks thread.. it appears people have failed to pay up... so if this happens, there should be some penalty for the team that doesn't pay and compensation for the team that is owed. You're off base here though. A GM is taking a risk when asking for an owed pick in a deal. Sure, it's a douchebag move to not pay-up, but it's not required either. However, the risk is assumed when trading for an owed pick. |
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Post by Pacman on Sept 8, 2009 19:20:18 GMT -5
i voted for no more new owed picks.
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Post by dj on Sept 8, 2009 19:25:34 GMT -5
Well, looking at the owed picks thread.. it appears people have failed to pay up... so if this happens, there should be some penalty for the team that doesn't pay and compensation for the team that is owed. You're off base here though. A GM is taking a risk when asking for an owed pick in a deal. Sure, it's a douchebag move to not pay-up, but it's not required either. However, the risk is assumed when trading for an owed pick. If you owe someone a 1st by a certain date, it's pretty straight forward. If you don't pay, you should be forced to pay. Now, if someone traded for an unspecified owed 1st, then your argument would be valid since the person owing gets to decide when to pay. |
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Sept 8, 2009 19:51:53 GMT -5
i absolutely hate owed picks... the only reason I have so many was because the last GM was an idiot.. I want them paid though and i don't know why you just can't enforce it???
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Post by Skillz on Sept 8, 2009 20:51:45 GMT -5
I say:
1. No more owed pick trades can be proccessed
2. Owed picks that are owed now can be used with the RC idea
so 2 and 3
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Post by manasrai on Sept 8, 2009 20:57:21 GMT -5
I'm fine with any of the options 1-3...I guess I like 3 the most though.
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Post by Outlawz on Sept 8, 2009 21:00:58 GMT -5
Me personally i've rarely taken owed 1sts and if people accept them they knowingly run the risk that the person might not pay up and more than likely will not pay up on time.
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Post by Spencer on Sept 8, 2009 21:06:13 GMT -5
I might do 2 and 3. I kinda like the idea of owed picks being done.
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Post by DB on Sept 8, 2009 21:06:18 GMT -5
3
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Post by chipper on Sept 8, 2009 21:32:38 GMT -5
Get rid of them, and how about give RCs to the people that have owed picks owed to them but don't owe any to anyone else? I don't know if I have any owed to me/owed from me, and I'm going to go check now.
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Post by Spencer on Sept 8, 2009 21:39:11 GMT -5
Im doing 2 and 3.
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Post by Pacman on Sept 8, 2009 21:40:11 GMT -5
i got a couple owed's i like to trade for rc's  |
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Post by chipper on Sept 8, 2009 21:40:27 GMT -5
Wait until the end of the season. |
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Sept 8, 2009 22:08:20 GMT -5
2 and 3 have the same votes lolz
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