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Post by Funky George! on Sept 8, 2009 20:59:56 GMT -5
Brock
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Rich Jones, Eamon O, ORL 38
BROCK!
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Sept 8, 2009 21:01:38 GMT -5
yeah. despite the player he is, nobody wants brock, might as well get something for him. not all that happy with this deal but it is what it is
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Post by Pacman on Sept 8, 2009 21:01:43 GMT -5
like this for suns... jones looks nice and eamon is solid. brock isnt that great anymore and he's overpaid imo.
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Post by Skillz on Sept 8, 2009 21:09:56 GMT -5
sick for the suns
Arguably the Magic's 3 best players are all much better at pg in xavier, oscar, brock.
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Post by Funky George! on Sept 8, 2009 21:10:29 GMT -5
lol @ xavier being top 3 on my team
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Post by Skillz on Sept 8, 2009 21:11:04 GMT -5
Xavier at PG is better than DJ or Chiba IMO
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Post by Funky George! on Sept 8, 2009 21:11:37 GMT -5
Xavier at PG is better than DJ or Chiba IMO not better than thompson at all
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Post by Funky George! on Sept 8, 2009 21:12:32 GMT -5
i'm not worried...brock is definitely our pg for the time being. he's totally undervalued. oscar played 1 game for us at sf and dropped 45 so i'm not worrying that he's not gonna be a great player.
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Sept 8, 2009 21:15:03 GMT -5
Brock %s are crazy and i remember mark talking about how sick he is at pg. I wanted him but
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Sept 8, 2009 21:22:24 GMT -5
Brock %s are crazy and i remember mark talking about how sick he is at pg. I wanted him but players %s are generally better off the bench. he's pretty efficient at PG thoughg
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Post by Rocky on Sept 8, 2009 23:13:08 GMT -5
Brock is an OK SG and a great PG. No really middle ground for him. He's a nasty PG though, seriously
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Post by Outlawz on Sept 9, 2009 1:52:03 GMT -5
brock is solid but had no value with that contract.. i think suns get a great deal
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Post by Tigertecz on Sept 9, 2009 7:35:23 GMT -5
What's so good about Brock? His numbers over his career are ok, but not great. How can he be considered a great PG with his highest ever apg figure being 7.1apg? The only award he's ever won is All Rookie First Team, and he's never even had a triple double. What's so great about this PG?
I don't get the fuss over him at all.
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Post by Tigertecz on Sept 9, 2009 7:35:56 GMT -5
And yeah, as previously mentioned, his contract is butt ugly.
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Post by Funky George! on Sept 9, 2009 11:08:44 GMT -5
What's so good about Brock? His numbers over his career are ok, but not great. How can he be considered a great PG with his highest ever apg figure being 7.1apg? The only award he's ever won is All Rookie First Team, and he's never even had a triple double. What's so great about this PG? I don't get the fuss over him at all. I'd like to think his career %s, turnovers, steals, averages, et al. are more important than the fact that he's never had a triple-double. Just my opinion! The guy shoots 50/91/46 for his career. He averages 1.3 turnovers in 33 minutes for his career. 18 PPG. His only deficiency is that he isn't a great passer, but his handles have gone up two categories in two seasons and he did 7 APG last year, having spent the first 20 days at SG. I'm not worried about that, consider I have Oscar in my lineup.
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Post by Tigertecz on Sept 9, 2009 11:38:18 GMT -5
What's so good about Brock? His numbers over his career are ok, but not great. How can he be considered a great PG with his highest ever apg figure being 7.1apg? The only award he's ever won is All Rookie First Team, and he's never even had a triple double. What's so great about this PG? I don't get the fuss over him at all. I'd like to think his career %s, turnovers, steals, averages, et al. are more important than the fact that he's never had a triple-double. Just my opinion! The guy shoots 50/91/46 for his career. He averages 1.3 turnovers in 33 minutes for his career. 18 PPG. His only deficiency is that he isn't a great passer, but his handles have gone up two categories in two seasons and he did 7 APG last year, having spent the first 20 days at SG. I'm not worried about that, consider I have Oscar in my lineup. Yeah I wasn't saying that you have to have a triple double to be a good player, I was just pointing out that fact having looked at his career page. He may be efficient at shooting the ball, but the fact that he's a really bad rebounder and not such a great passer just doesn't justify him being a "great PG" as was said in this thread earlier.
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Post by Tigertecz on Sept 9, 2009 11:38:33 GMT -5
And for that contract too, not worth it imo.
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Post by Spencer on Sept 9, 2009 12:13:39 GMT -5
Love this for Phil. If he was super active right now he could probably turn O'Callaghan into a 1st as well. Jones should be a nice forward to build around.
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Post by Spencer on Sept 9, 2009 12:15:08 GMT -5
I'd like to think his career %s, turnovers, steals, averages, et al. are more important than the fact that he's never had a triple-double. Just my opinion! The guy shoots 50/91/46 for his career. He averages 1.3 turnovers in 33 minutes for his career. 18 PPG. His only deficiency is that he isn't a great passer, but his handles have gone up two categories in two seasons and he did 7 APG last year, having spent the first 20 days at SG. I'm not worried about that, consider I have Oscar in my lineup. Yeah I wasn't saying that you have to have a triple double to be a good player, I was just pointing out that fact having looked at his career page. He may be efficient at shooting the ball, but the fact that he's a really bad rebounder and not such a great passer just doesn't justify him being a "great PG" as was said in this thread earlier. I think its because of BBS. There arent a lot of great PGs. Lots of high TO guys. Kennedy is a low TO guy that plays very well at PG. He isnt an assist guy, but he can score and shoot and he limits his TOs. AT PG he could be a 25-5-5 guy with less then 2 TOs. Thats rare here.
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Post by Spencer on Sept 9, 2009 12:15:24 GMT -5
trade in
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Post by Spencer on Sept 10, 2009 10:44:31 GMT -5
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