aar
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Post by aar on Sept 16, 2009 22:24:56 GMT -5
Grizzlies Trade:
Dave Bing
Red Robbins
Sonics Trade:
Gene Moore
Larry Miller
Billy Smith--filler
Sonics 2030 1st
Cancellation of the top 20 1st by 2033 i owed aar
Sonics 2030 and 2032 2nds!!!!!
I agree
Nice dealing Skillz
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Outlawz
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Post by Outlawz on Sept 16, 2009 22:27:31 GMT -5
I think bing fucking sucks but nice for aar.. he gives up literally nothing. Skillz wanted dandridge and bulls lotto. Bing is expiring and aar will max him and that will just lower his value so i guess i see skillz mentality
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Post by Skillz on Sept 16, 2009 22:27:51 GMT -5
I agree.
I like Moore a lot and if he can improve in 1-2 areas he can be a real nice player. Good shot blocker. Miller is solid too. Get a 1st in a good draft, cancel another owed.
BUT, the main reason i do this is to secure max cap space. We will have about 16-18 mil in cap now, something we wouldn't have after resigning Bing. Bing's TO's also piss me off. He went from 2.8 to 4 in one year which is annoying.
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Post by Skillz on Sept 16, 2009 22:29:28 GMT -5
506 Larry Miller SF 23 6'4'' 190 B- B C B B- B
328 Gene Moore C 24 6'9'' 227 B C+ C- B B B
idk how these guys are nothing. I think Moore can be a quality starter. B+ C+ C- B+ B+ C is realistic, and he's a good shot blocker. Miller could get to be a B B+ scorer, decent player.
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Dash
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Post by Dash on Sept 16, 2009 22:30:46 GMT -5
My offer was obviously better, but I didn't want to deal with the hard cap ramifications.
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Post by Skillz on Sept 16, 2009 22:32:19 GMT -5
Ya, sucks.
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Post by Skillz on Sept 16, 2009 22:33:09 GMT -5
At least we'll have a lot to build around. Beasley, Boone, Stone, Daniels, Smith, these 2 guys, lotto pick, another 1st, max cap.
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Post by Funky George! on Sept 16, 2009 22:34:53 GMT -5
yikes...great deal for aar. bing is gonna be a great player at some point.
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Outlawz
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Post by Outlawz on Sept 16, 2009 22:38:40 GMT -5
with his to's? ill bet he wont
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Play
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Post by Play on Sept 16, 2009 22:39:27 GMT -5
lol Skillz wanted Webb and Spurs first for Bing.
Webb>>>Bing
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aar
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Post by aar on Sept 16, 2009 22:40:40 GMT -5
The price is right for Bing
He has a really low greed rating, so I'm hoping he signs with me long-term at a discounted price and continues his mammoth improvement.
Either that, or I will shop him this year and see what kind of value is out there.
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Outlawz
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Post by Outlawz on Sept 16, 2009 22:41:21 GMT -5
If skillz didnt get value im sure there is none.
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Post by Funky George! on Sept 16, 2009 22:44:21 GMT -5
with his to's? ill bet he wont I put +11 into them, and he keeps improving. Skillz's team this year isn't very talented and I think that's part of the reason. Skillz has also gone very fast for very long periods of time this year, so I think Bing's handling looks worse than it is. If not, he can play SG. |
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aar
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Post by aar on Sept 16, 2009 22:44:36 GMT -5
If skillz didnt get value im sure there is none. Who knows? |
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Outlawz
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Post by Outlawz on Sept 16, 2009 22:46:34 GMT -5
with his to's? ill bet he wont I put +11 into them, and he keeps improving. Skillz's team this year isn't very talented and I think that's part of the reason. Skillz has also gone very fast for very long periods of time this year, so I think Bing's handling looks worse than it is. If not, he can play SG. That does make sense. I guess im just a bing hater. Never liked him but you make valid points. |
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aar
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Post by aar on Sept 16, 2009 22:53:49 GMT -5
Well, Bing's not playing PG if I have SVH
Plus if Jackson walks, I've got Bing as a great backup plan!
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aar
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Post by aar on Sept 16, 2009 23:09:00 GMT -5
Bing's stats last season:
11.8 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 9.0 apg, 2.6 topg 50% FG% in 37.4 mpg
Sick
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Outlawz
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Post by Outlawz on Sept 16, 2009 23:23:46 GMT -5
he aaightttttt lol
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Post by DB on Sept 17, 2009 0:09:13 GMT -5
ewww for skillz
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Sept 17, 2009 8:08:53 GMT -5
fail
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Post by noves on Sept 17, 2009 11:09:39 GMT -5
yikes.
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Post by Spencer on Sept 17, 2009 11:18:57 GMT -5
trade in
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Scott
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Post by Scott on Sept 17, 2009 11:23:08 GMT -5
Bing played awesome for me last year at PG, but I ran a very slow offense and he wasn't an option. Plus, I think that Sanford turned the ball over enough that Bing didn't have to lol.
Regardless, I traded Bing to Skillz for Denton (who I'm hoping to turn for a nicer player here shortly) and Gus Johnson. Love that trade right now as Bing would essentially be getting Denton's minutes as a combo guard, and that's not that much right now.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Sept 17, 2009 11:38:13 GMT -5
I don't like Bing at all. It isn't good value for skillz but I would hate having him on a max.
I put like +15 into brocks handles back in the day and he still turned it over 3+ times a game
no idea what he does now
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Post by Spencer on Sept 18, 2009 11:05:28 GMT -5
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