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Post by Sheryl Yoast on Sept 30, 2009 22:14:04 GMT -5
What an awful fight.
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Post by Dru on Sept 30, 2009 22:18:02 GMT -5
He lost to some fat white guy. wtf.
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Post by Sheryl Yoast on Sept 30, 2009 22:22:08 GMT -5
That guy would of been one hell of a fighter if he was 230 and not 264. You could see that he was worlds ahead of Kimbo as far as the mental aspect of the fight was going. However the fight was him just mounted on top of Kimbo and his inability to get that fat ass off of him. Terrible fight and now they keep hyping up Kimbo to come back next week for an injured competitor. Dana White is damn awful and is such a hypocrite. I don't want to watch Kimbo fight because he sucks. I wanna see some real fighters.
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Post by Rocky on Sept 30, 2009 22:22:14 GMT -5
Yeah, brutal. Couldn't keep that fucking guy off of him. He actually was good to start round 1 and round 2. Even fought off that early takedown in round 1. But fuck, he had no chance whatsoever once he got him in side control. He also wasn't nearly proactive enough in throwing punches, especially in round 2. Yeah he threw some early on but it was so clear that he had NO chance to do a thing once Roy took him down, so why not just come out throwing? What's the worst that could happen?
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Post by Rocky on Sept 30, 2009 22:23:41 GMT -5
That guy would of been one hell of a fighter if he was 230 and not 264. You could see that he was worlds ahead of Kimbo as far as the mental aspect of the fight was going. However the fight was him just mounted on top of Kimbo and his inability to get that fat ass off of him. Terrible fight and now they keep hyping up Kimbo to come back next week for an injured competitor. Dana White is damn awful and is such a hypocrite. I don't want to watch Kimbo fight because he sucks. I wanna see some real fighters. I don't know how that guy can take himself seriously at that conditioning level. I bet the belly actually does help him against inexperienced fighters like Kimbo, but it's really not that hard to get yourself into at least adequate shape. How the fuck is he 264 with that type of body? Truly a fat guy. Get into good shape, quit being a dick and he'd actually have a spot in the UFC.
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Post by Rocky on Sept 30, 2009 22:27:32 GMT -5
That crucifix drove me nuts. Those punches were as soft as can be but he couldn't move at all. I like Kimbo a lot though. Seems like a really good guy who works hard. I hope he gets better and I hope he does get to fight again.
So 2 of the 3 fights have been absolutely horrible, and Shivers-McSweeney was average at best. I fucking hate that guy McSweeney. I think Shivers was going to destroy him if he didn't have such ridiculously bad stamina.
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Post by Sheryl Yoast on Sept 30, 2009 22:29:38 GMT -5
That guy would of been one hell of a fighter if he was 230 and not 264. You could see that he was worlds ahead of Kimbo as far as the mental aspect of the fight was going. However the fight was him just mounted on top of Kimbo and his inability to get that fat ass off of him. Terrible fight and now they keep hyping up Kimbo to come back next week for an injured competitor. Dana White is damn awful and is such a hypocrite. I don't want to watch Kimbo fight because he sucks. I wanna see some real fighters. I don't know how that guy can take himself seriously at that conditioning level. I bet the belly actually does help him against inexperienced fighters like Kimbo, but it's really not that hard to get yourself into at least adequate shape. How the fuck is he 264 with that type of body? Truly a fat guy. Get into good shape, quit being a dick and he'd actually have a spot in the UFC. It is shocking to me that all these trainers, coaches, promoters, entourage who ever the hell was on Kimbo's corner couldn't come up with a legitimate strategy to use Nelson's awful conditioning to their advantage. If I am Rampage the game plan is quite simple, throw a three punch combo and fall back for 10 or so seconds and repeat. Wear the guy down.
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Post by Rocky on Sept 30, 2009 22:37:11 GMT -5
I don't get why he didn't throw more punches, especially in the second round. It was like he was trying to not get caught with anything to prove he's not just a puncher.
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Post by Apollo on Sept 30, 2009 22:44:36 GMT -5
I don't get why he didn't throw more punches, especially in the second round. It was like he was trying to not get caught with anything to prove he's not just a puncher. It looked like Kimbo was throwing the right amount of punches, he caught the guy a few times, then fatty grabbed onto him. That's where Kimbo started sucking. To be honest though, if this fat ass can sit on everyone he fights, he's going to be tough to beat. That's basically what Brock Lesnar does (around the same weight) except obviously Brock is a physical specimen and a freak athletically.
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Post by Apollo on Sept 30, 2009 22:45:23 GMT -5
I don't know how that guy can take himself seriously at that conditioning level. I bet the belly actually does help him against inexperienced fighters like Kimbo, but it's really not that hard to get yourself into at least adequate shape. How the fuck is he 264 with that type of body? Truly a fat guy. Get into good shape, quit being a dick and he'd actually have a spot in the UFC. It is shocking to me that all these trainers, coaches, promoters, entourage who ever the hell was on Kimbo's corner couldn't come up with a legitimate strategy to use Nelson's awful conditioning to their advantage. If I am Rampage the game plan is quite simple, throw a three punch combo and fall back for 10 or so seconds and repeat. Wear the guy down. Yeah, I'm surprised he got so close to the fatty. I don't think anyone is in good shape getting close to fatman unless it's with a KO punch.
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Post by Rocky on Sept 30, 2009 22:48:08 GMT -5
I don't get why he didn't throw more punches, especially in the second round. It was like he was trying to not get caught with anything to prove he's not just a puncher. It looked like Kimbo was throwing the right amount of punches, he caught the guy a few times, then fatty grabbed onto him. That's where Kimbo started sucking. To be honest though, if this fat ass can sit on everyone he fights, he's going to be tough to beat. That's basically what Brock Lesnar does (around the same weight) except obviously Brock is a physical specimen and a freak athletically. He caught him a little bit but I was expecting him to go more all-out in the second round when it was pretty clear that he was going to have to catch him with one to win. It was also stupid as hell to try and throw that knee. It got him off-balanced and Roy fell on him. True on the sitting thing, but Kimbo has no ground defense whatsoever. The more experienced guys would do so much better getting out of it. Isn't Roy Nelson a pretty experienced and successful heavyweight though? From everything I've read people think he's very good. One of the first comments I saw when the names first came out was how unfair it was that he was even on the show.
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Post by Apollo on Sept 30, 2009 22:55:49 GMT -5
It looked like Kimbo was throwing the right amount of punches, he caught the guy a few times, then fatty grabbed onto him. That's where Kimbo started sucking. To be honest though, if this fat ass can sit on everyone he fights, he's going to be tough to beat. That's basically what Brock Lesnar does (around the same weight) except obviously Brock is a physical specimen and a freak athletically. He caught him a little bit but I was expecting him to go more all-out in the second round when it was pretty clear that he was going to have to catch him with one to win. It was also stupid as hell to try and throw that knee. It got him off-balanced and Roy fell on him. True on the sitting thing, but Kimbo has no ground defense whatsoever. The more experienced guys would do so much better getting out of it. Isn't Roy Nelson a pretty experienced and successful heavyweight though? From everything I've read people think he's very good. One of the first comments I saw when the names first came out was how unfair it was that he was even on the show. The knee was the worst decision all fight, good observation. From what I've heard, Nelson is a great heavyweight fighter, and they said he was HW champ of IFL, so he's obviously experienced. Kimbo was definitely over-matched.
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Post by Rocky on Sept 30, 2009 22:58:51 GMT -5
Have you watched previous TUF seasons? I only got into UFC around June so this is my first one. How exactly is it set-up? If you lose you're done but can continue to train? And if there is an injury someone can step back in?
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Post by aar on Sept 30, 2009 23:01:13 GMT -5
Horrid to watch
Both of them are bad fighters
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Post by aar on Sept 30, 2009 23:04:19 GMT -5
I've met Kimbo and he's a really nice guy. I was rooting for him.
You'll be hard pressed to meet a UFC / MMA fighter that isn't a nice guy.
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Post by Rocky on Sept 30, 2009 23:06:00 GMT -5
Who else have you met from UFC? Mir seems really interesting. I was watching the Mir-Nog TUF the other day. He knows his stuff.
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Post by aar on Sept 30, 2009 23:08:27 GMT -5
Who else have you met from UFC? Mir seems really interesting. I was watching the Mir-Nog TUF the other day. He knows his stuff. I've met Randy Couture, Dana White, Clay Guida, Jon Jones, Stitch, Wanderlei Silva, Houston Alexander, Cain Velasquez, Heath Herring, Alan Belcher, Forrest Griffin, Marcus Davis - that's off the top of my head I've also met a bunch of WEC guys (Donald Cerrone, Urijah Faber, Mike Brown, Benson Henderson)
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Post by Sheryl Yoast on Sept 30, 2009 23:09:19 GMT -5
I've met Kimbo and he's a really nice guy. I was rooting for him. You'll be hard pressed to meet a UFC / MMA fighter that isn't a nice guy. Tito Ortiz always seemed like a douche bag.
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Post by Apollo on Sept 30, 2009 23:13:15 GMT -5
Have you watched previous TUF seasons? I only got into UFC around June so this is my first one. How exactly is it set-up? If you lose you're done but can continue to train? And if there is an injury someone can step back in? I've watched most of them. Usually when you lose, you're done, but yes, if there's an injury, they will bring someone back.
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Post by Sheryl Yoast on Sept 30, 2009 23:16:08 GMT -5
Who else have you met from UFC? Mir seems really interesting. I was watching the Mir-Nog TUF the other day. He knows his stuff. I've met Randy Couture, Dana White, Clay Guida, Jon Jones, Stitch, Wanderlei Silva, Houston Alexander, Cain Velasquez, Heath Herring, Alan Belcher, Forrest Griffin, Marcus Davis - that's off the top of my head I've also met a bunch of WEC guys (Donald Cerrone, Urijah Faber, Mike Brown, Benson Henderson) Love Jones and Velasquez. Herring is washed up, Griffin is overrated, Alexander has fallen off the face of the earth, don't know Belcher too well. I have a love hate relationship with Marcus Davis.
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Post by Sheryl Yoast on Sept 30, 2009 23:19:12 GMT -5
Marcus Davis whose nickname is "The Irish Hand Grenade" requests to fight in Belfast and then afterwards thanks the Belfast crowd saying he loves the people of Belfast. Terrible. I was happy when Dan Hardy kicked his ass even though he too is a punk because he was absolutely correct about every thing he said about Davis.
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Post by Rocky on Sept 30, 2009 23:20:02 GMT -5
I've YouTubed pretty much every relevant fight and I absolutely loved the Forrest-Rampage and Forrest-Bonnar
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Post by aar on Sept 30, 2009 23:22:12 GMT -5
Marcus Davis whose nickname is "The Irish Hand Grenade" requests to fight in Belfast and then afterwards thanks the Belfast crowd saying he loves the people of Belfast. Terrible. I was happy when Dan Hardy kicked his ass even though he too is a punk because he was absolutely correct about every thing he said about Davis. Davis told me in person that he wants Hardy to get hit by a truck and killed - he legitimately hates him
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Post by aar on Sept 30, 2009 23:24:19 GMT -5
I've met Randy Couture, Dana White, Clay Guida, Jon Jones, Stitch, Wanderlei Silva, Houston Alexander, Cain Velasquez, Heath Herring, Alan Belcher, Forrest Griffin, Marcus Davis - that's off the top of my head I've also met a bunch of WEC guys (Donald Cerrone, Urijah Faber, Mike Brown, Benson Henderson) Love Jones and Velasquez. Herring is washed up, Griffin is overrated, Alexander has fallen off the face of the earth, don't know Belcher too well. I have a love hate relationship with Marcus Davis. Jones was a really nice guy. I think that Velasquez has a social disorder, he doesn't like big crowds and doesn't have much to say. Say what you will about Herring, but he's gone longer with Brock than anyone else and beat Cheikh Kongo. Alexander will be back soon, he just did an independent fight. Belcher went the distance with the very hyped up Akiyama at UFC 100 and upset another hyped fighter in Denis Kang. Belcher will be a great fighter.
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Post by Sheryl Yoast on Sept 30, 2009 23:39:00 GMT -5
Marcus Davis whose nickname is "The Irish Hand Grenade" requests to fight in Belfast and then afterwards thanks the Belfast crowd saying he loves the people of Belfast. Terrible. I was happy when Dan Hardy kicked his ass even though he too is a punk because he was absolutely correct about every thing he said about Davis. Davis told me in person that he wants Hardy to get hit by a truck and killed - he legitimately hates him There is no doubt in my mind that Hardy is a punk with the whole outlaw facade he puts on. I don't like him at all. However IMO, everything he said about Davis is true though. If you want to support Ireland in great measures. Hell yes I am all for it. If you want to go fight in the UK and NIR and go tell the fans there great and you love them that is fine as well, awesome. However when you take the name the Irish Hand Grenade you are taking a very bold stance and you're sending a message. Once again I have no problem with this at all. However if you want to symbolize your self with the "Irish Hand Grenade" then go on record to say you love Belfast and their people, you love the UK and their people it seriously is like "Your nickname is a symbol of a weapon to kill friends, family, neighbors, etc of these people you saying you love." It is an example of hypocrisy at it's finest.
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