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Post by Rocky on Oct 21, 2009 14:38:07 GMT -5
STFU, we know you sell paper
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 21, 2009 14:38:49 GMT -5
STFU, we know you sell paper Yah... that too... ahem  |
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Post by FAIL on Oct 21, 2009 14:41:20 GMT -5
Do you like it? I think I'm going to get back into school in the spring and get an MBA. The market and business peaks my interest alot more than IT.
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Post by White Boy on Oct 21, 2009 14:46:22 GMT -5
Tiger you speak mandarin by any chance?
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 21, 2009 15:04:29 GMT -5
Do you like it? I think I'm going to get back into school in the spring and get an MBA. The market and business peaks my interest alot more than IT. Investment banking is such a huge industry there's so many different roles you can do. To me, working in front office in client facing roles is fantastic. Anything mid or back office though is boring as hell imo, and you aren't rewarded financially anywhere near as well as front office. Of course, front office jobs are much harder to get, and they're much more volatile as your job is never ever safe, but to me that's part of the excitement. In middle or back office you get paid pretty well for an office job, but you get no recognition and very little bonus, but your job is safe. You have to fuck up pretty badly to be fired. In front office, one small mistake can get you fired, but if you keep your arse on a seat and do well, you are rewarded very very well. That motivates me and I love it. Money makes me tick and I'm not going to deny it, but making money in sales is actually a job I like to do, mainly due to the client interaction. You have to maintain relationships well while understanding the technical side of things too, in order to negotiate pricing with traders and watch your P&L. I could talk forever about the industry but to answer your question simply, yes I do. Some parts of the job are tedious as fuck and irritate me no end, but that's the case with every job. I love the main sales part of my role. If you want to go for an MBA, good luck to you. I hate studying but an MBA adds so much to your CV, especially from a good business school. It can add a lot to your salary too. Having said that, there's a lot of scope for IT specialists in investment banking. Many banks are similar, but often what sets some apart from others is their IT infrastructure. Those that lack a good IT division struggle imo. So if you wanted to go down the IT route, there's opportunities in investment banking too. Like I said, it's such a broad industry. |
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 21, 2009 15:06:49 GMT -5
Tiger you speak mandarin by any chance? Very little. In fact I'd say no lol. I learnt a few hundred words as a kid, but not enough to have a conversation or read a newspaper or anything like that. I understand and speak a little Cantonese - good enough to order food at a restaurant lol, and I can speak TheoChew and Hokkien pretty much fluently. Having said that, my Spanish is probably my second best language after English lol. |
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Post by White Boy on Oct 21, 2009 15:14:47 GMT -5
Tiger you speak mandarin by any chance? Very little. In fact I'd say no lol. I learnt a few hundred words as a kid, but not enough to have a conversation or read a newspaper or anything like that. I understand and speak a little Cantonese - good enough to order food at a restaurant lol, and I can speak TheoChew and Hokkien pretty much fluently. Having said that, my Spanish is probably my second best language after English lol. I don't have the faintest clue what Hokkien and TheoChew are. I was really just curious, might be a good idea to learn mandarin for business ;D. |
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 21, 2009 15:20:36 GMT -5
OK so my parents always wanted me to learn Mandarin, and I hated it. Even when I was younger I knew I'd regret it going forward, but I just hated learning the language. I was learning French and Spanish at school and I had no problem with languages that use the alphabet, but learning an individual character for every word is another level. And I didn't want to go to Saturday school to learn. And now, I regret not learning because yes, it is useful. It adds a lot to your CV too, BUT, in investment banking, the universal language of business is still English.
Being in the UK our working hours cover the European market, but also the back end of the Asian markets, and the front end of the US markets. Our equivalent desks out in Hong Kong and in New York have to come through us and we all communicate in English. So yeah, sure, Mandarin's a big advantage, but it's not a necessity or anything unless you're planning on working out East and deal with clients who speak the language. That way it becomes one less barrier between you and your client and it's easier to build a relationship with them. Having said that, they'll still speak English lol.
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 21, 2009 15:22:43 GMT -5
Oh, and TheoChew and Hokkien are both Chinese dialects, both spoken by people in Penang in Malaysia where my parents are from. Not as common as Cantonese in mainstream oriental culture though. Do you know any Cantonese?
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Post by White Boy on Oct 21, 2009 16:09:55 GMT -5
Naw, basically all I know is that it's extremely similar to mandarin except there are quite a few more tones.
I really don't know mandarin that well. I mean just enough to get by and not get myself completely lost. I'm really going over there so that I'm forcing myself to learn. I don't really know what I want to do, but I'm positive if I can speak fluent Mandarin it's going to open quite a few more doors. If nothing else I can always go into lobbying (which I'm positive I'll hate but the money is really good) because I have so many connections. I've talked to a few guys I know and they've told me if I come back from Taiwan speaking fluent Mandarin they can hook me up with jobs just about anywhere I want.
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 21, 2009 16:13:54 GMT -5
Naw, basically all I know is that it's extremely similar to mandarin except there are quite a few more tones. I really don't know mandarin that well. I mean just enough to get by and not get myself completely lost. I'm really going over there so that I'm forcing myself to learn. I don't really know what I want to do, but I'm positive if I can speak fluent Mandarin it's going to open quite a few more doors. If nothing else I can always go into lobbying (which I'm positive I'll hate but the money is really good) because I have so many connections. I've talked to a few guys I know and they've told me if I come back from Taiwan speaking fluent Mandarin they can hook me up with jobs just about anywhere I want. Yeah but that's if you want to work in the East. Like for me, I'd never want to work in the East. I want to work in New York or London pretty much, so for me it may not be that helpful. If you want to work in China or Taiwan then of course, Mandarin will be necessary. The fact you can speak English is also a big plus I suppose. As for Cantonese, yeah it's similar to Mandarin. The characters are all the same but just pronounced differently, and Cantonese I suppose is like a casual version of Mandarin lol. I have a lot of friends from Hong Kong where Cantonese has been traditionally more popular, but I think nowadays if you go to school in Hong Kong you have to learn Mandarin. |
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Post by White Boy on Oct 21, 2009 16:17:24 GMT -5
Naw, basically all I know is that it's extremely similar to mandarin except there are quite a few more tones. I really don't know mandarin that well. I mean just enough to get by and not get myself completely lost. I'm really going over there so that I'm forcing myself to learn. I don't really know what I want to do, but I'm positive if I can speak fluent Mandarin it's going to open quite a few more doors. If nothing else I can always go into lobbying (which I'm positive I'll hate but the money is really good) because I have so many connections. I've talked to a few guys I know and they've told me if I come back from Taiwan speaking fluent Mandarin they can hook me up with jobs just about anywhere I want. Yeah but that's if you want to work in the East. Like for me, I'd never want to work in the East. I want to work in New York or London pretty much, so for me it may not be that helpful. If you want to work in China or Taiwan then of course, Mandarin will be necessary. The fact you can speak English is also a big plus I suppose. As for Cantonese, yeah it's similar to Mandarin. The characters are all the same but just pronounced differently, and Cantonese I suppose is like a casual version of Mandarin lol. I have a lot of friends from Hong Kong where Cantonese has been traditionally more popular, but I think nowadays if you go to school in Hong Kong you have to learn Mandarin. Oh yeah for sure, just in the global economy it makes you so much more marketable. I know quite a few people that speak Cantonese, I can understand some if it but the tones throw me off. There were a bunch of people in my mandarin class spoke fluent cantonese, which was pretty much bullshit. |
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 21, 2009 16:25:48 GMT -5
Yeah but that's if you want to work in the East. Like for me, I'd never want to work in the East. I want to work in New York or London pretty much, so for me it may not be that helpful. If you want to work in China or Taiwan then of course, Mandarin will be necessary. The fact you can speak English is also a big plus I suppose. As for Cantonese, yeah it's similar to Mandarin. The characters are all the same but just pronounced differently, and Cantonese I suppose is like a casual version of Mandarin lol. I have a lot of friends from Hong Kong where Cantonese has been traditionally more popular, but I think nowadays if you go to school in Hong Kong you have to learn Mandarin. Oh yeah for sure, just in the global economy it makes you so much more marketable. I know quite a few people that speak Cantonese, I can understand some if it but the tones throw me off. There were a bunch of people in my mandarin class spoke fluent cantonese, which was pretty much bullshit. Rofl. I know people at uni who did that. They actually got credit for their overall degree by taking a mid level Mandarin class when they were fluent in Cantonese. Meanwhile I had to take the highest level Spanish class offered to get credit for my degree since I had an A in Spanish at A-Level. It's a joke but that's the way it is unfortunately. |
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Post by White Boy on Oct 21, 2009 16:38:54 GMT -5
Oh yeah for sure, just in the global economy it makes you so much more marketable. I know quite a few people that speak Cantonese, I can understand some if it but the tones throw me off. There were a bunch of people in my mandarin class spoke fluent cantonese, which was pretty much bullshit. Rofl. I know people at uni who did that. They actually got credit for their overall degree by taking a mid level Mandarin class when they were fluent in Cantonese. Meanwhile I had to take the highest level Spanish class offered to get credit for my degree since I had an A in Spanish at A-Level. It's a joke but that's the way it is unfortunately. Yeah the worst part is that the teacher would get pissed at the white kids who weren't as good as all these asian kids. Like really, of course they know more than us you fucking idiot they speak a dialect of the goddam language. |
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 22, 2009 3:00:05 GMT -5
Rofl. I know people at uni who did that. They actually got credit for their overall degree by taking a mid level Mandarin class when they were fluent in Cantonese. Meanwhile I had to take the highest level Spanish class offered to get credit for my degree since I had an A in Spanish at A-Level. It's a joke but that's the way it is unfortunately. Yeah the worst part is that the teacher would get pissed at the white kids who weren't as good as all these asian kids. Like really, of course they know more than us you fucking idiot they speak a dialect of the goddam language. LEARN QUICKER!! |
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Post by FAIL on Oct 23, 2009 14:56:52 GMT -5
Chris McCandless had the right idea.
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Post by FAIL on Oct 27, 2009 8:38:40 GMT -5
1 yogurt
1 apple
1 hot pocket
1 bowl o soup
Solid.
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 27, 2009 8:40:04 GMT -5
What is a hot pocket?
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Post by FAIL on Oct 27, 2009 8:43:56 GMT -5
It's a frozen cuisine that is made of various fillings. The fillings usually consist of hunks of processed meat product accompanied by cheese and a sauce substance. This filling is wrapped in what seems to be a dough. You microwave for 2 minutes and feast.
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 27, 2009 8:46:42 GMT -5
So it's like a meaty pop tart?
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Post by FAIL on Oct 27, 2009 8:48:39 GMT -5
Yes, that is a great description.
I have meatball parmesan.
And they're "Lean Pockets" which is the lower fat version. So these are good for me.
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 27, 2009 9:28:38 GMT -5
No... just not as bad for you. I mean, just because you go for single cheeseburger instead of a double cheeseburger, doesn't make it good for you... it's just less bad than the double. I had a pork tonkatsu curry for lunch about an hour ago... man they taste so good... I chose to have it with brown rice instead of white rice, but it still doesn't make it healthy lol. Ah well, no more bad lunches for the rest of the week. I have already used up my "Friday lunch" quota today  |
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Post by FAIL on Oct 27, 2009 9:33:48 GMT -5
Wish I had an empanada.
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Post by Tigertecz on Oct 27, 2009 9:37:38 GMT -5
I don't know what that is.
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Post by FAIL on Oct 27, 2009 9:41:29 GMT -5
Martys mom makes em. I do believe they are mexican pastries.
Taco Bell has them too.
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