Tony Allen - Undecided

[A2J]

I dunno, but has anyone coasted over to the Spurs roster lately?

Carmelo Anthony SG 19 6'8'' 230 B B B- C C+ A

Proof in the pudding.

[A2J]

Oh, and what the FUCK is up with these ratings?

Spence you little joker you ... I think he'll be fun for teams to have but probably won't sim very well, that D+ outside is a killer.

[Ducky]

Also, why allen with B rebounding?

He averaged 3.8rpg in 25mpg last season.

[Tigertecz]

ducky said:

tigertecz said:

PG's rebounding are capped in FBB at C+
SG's rebounding are capped in FBB at B-
SF's/PF's/C's have no cap.

However, as far as I know, if you move a player to SG from say PF with a better than C+ rebounding rating, he will automatically drop to a C+. The only way he can actually acheive that B- rating is to improve through TC past the C+ barrier.

Also, if you move that player to SG, save the file so his rebounding drops to C+, then later decide to move him back to PF, his rebounding will remain at C+ rather than going back up to whatever it was previously.

Basically, if you want to play someone at SG from SF/PF/C with a good rebounding rating, don't actually "move" him to SG officially, just play him there in your DC. That way, as far as I know, his rebounding rating stays the same.

How come in UOSL2, when Durant had B rebounding, I was able to move him to SG without his rebounding dropping?

Cos you're a cheater?

This is my other theory:
It could be due to other behind the scenes ratings. Like FBB will cap the actual "rebounding" (defensive and offensive) ratings behind the scenes, but not ratings like strength and speed, meaning the other ratings that affect the overall rebounding rating might have originally been so high that it was enough to keep that overall B rebounding rating, yet his offensive and defensive rebounding ratings would have dropped to the capped level.

That's just what I think, but I could be totally wrong. Theory 1 (you're a cheater) seems more plausible to me though.

[Tigertecz]

a2j said:

I dunno, but has anyone coasted over to the Spurs roster lately?

Carmelo Anthony SG 19 6'8'' 230 B B B- C C+ A

Proof in the pudding.

And yeah, this is evidence that it drops when moved to SG. Try moving him back to SF and see if his rebounding rating bumps back up.

[Dave]

thats weird he was B- a few days ago at SG

[Funky George!]

Yeah, he was.

[Tigertecz]

Well he's not any more!

[Dave]

I did not know this I can rest assure Lebron will be a SF next season.

[DB]

i bet he gets 50 potential.

[Dave]

db said:

i bet he gets 50 potential.

who cares he is nasty as is

[Tigertecz]

I think it's OK too btw if you move someone from PG or SG to SF. They don't suffer from a capping like if you move a C to PG then back up to SF for example where they'll have the PG rebounding cap forever.

Then again, FBB is weird so I may be wrong lol.

Basically Krup, if you move Bron to SF, he'll be fine.

[Dave]

tigertecz said:

I think it's OK too btw if you move someone from PG or SG to SF. They don't suffer from a capping like if you move a C to PG then back up to SF for example where they'll have the PG rebounding cap forever.

Then again, FBB is weird so I may be wrong lol.

Basically Krup, if you move Bron to SF, he'll be fine.

I wanted to keep Lebron at SG so his outside shot and handling developed but I'm definitely going to move him to SF with the possibility of his rebounding increasing and he should still work on his outside shot too.

[DB]

I have never heard of someone's rebounding change because they move from the 5 to 2 or 1.

[Tigertecz]

db said:

I have never heard of someone's rebounding change because they move from the 5 to 2 or 1.

That's becuase you're a n00b.

[Tigertecz]

krupimpski424 said:

tigertecz said:

I think it's OK too btw if you move someone from PG or SG to SF. They don't suffer from a capping like if you move a C to PG then back up to SF for example where they'll have the PG rebounding cap forever.

Then again, FBB is weird so I may be wrong lol.

Basically Krup, if you move Bron to SF, he'll be fine.

I wanted to keep Lebron at SG so his outside shot and handling developed but I'm definitely going to move him to SF with the possibility of his rebounding increasing and he should still work on his outside shot too.

Does position matter for developing ratings? I didn't think it did, but I may be wrong.

[Dave]

tigertecz said:

krupimpski424 said:

I wanted to keep Lebron at SG so his outside shot and handling developed but I'm definitely going to move him to SF with the possibility of his rebounding increasing and he should still work on his outside shot too.

Does position matter for developing ratings? I didn't think it did, but I may be wrong.

Definitely does imo. I've experimented a lot with moving positions and you see a difference in TC with what develops. I had Sheed once and I moved him to PF and his outside went up every time I moved him to SF but would go back down if I moved him to PF. I've had 1/2 combo guys and their handles developed when you would move them to the 1 while they would go down at the 2.

In this sim we saw Artest do shit at PF at TC but he did well at SF. I think it matters even more when you go from small to big because I know FBB values weight and height in factoring defense which is often why you see bigs have stronger defense at SF but go down at PF/C. Guys like Bo Outlaw who is a good defender and played C in real life but was undersized gets no love at PF/C at defense but goes up at SF because he is barely over 200lbs.

I think Okur is another player who has really suffered from being at C his whole career while he might have developed a lot more at SF.

[Tigertecz]

krupimpski424 said:

tigertecz said:

Does position matter for developing ratings? I didn't think it did, but I may be wrong.

Definitely does imo. I've experimented a lot with moving positions and you see a difference in TC with what develops. I had Sheed once and I moved him to PF and his outside went up every time I moved him to SF but would go back down if I moved him to PF. I've had 1/2 combo guys and their handles developed when you would move them to the 1 while they would go down at the 2.

In this sim we saw Artest do shit at PF at TC but he did well at SF. I think it matters even more when you go from small to big because I know FBB values weight and height in factoring defense which is often why you see bigs have stronger defense at SF but go down at PF/C. Guys like Bo Outlaw who is a good defender and played C in real life but was undersized gets no love at PF/C at defense but goes up at SF because he is barely over 200lbs.

I think Okur is another player who has really suffered from being at C his whole career while he might have developed a lot more at SF.

Meh, I've seen players at PF/C develop their outside shot fine. But I don't know the official FBB coding behind it or anything.

[Tigertecz]

Anyone notice Melo back at SF btw?

Carmelo Anthony SF 19 6'8'' 230 B B B- C C+ A

Rebounding is stuck at C+ now.

[cjmjones008]

im guessing he played a couple of minutes at PG one game which dropped his rebounding

[Tigertecz]

cjmjones008 said:

im guessing he played a couple of minutes at PG one game which dropped his rebounding

I'm sure it's just because he played as a listed SG.

[cjmjones008]

i thought SG could have B- rebounding

[Spencer]

I checked Melos rebounding. Its 60 and 60, which I think has to be more then a C+. But its still listed at C+, so IDK.

[Funky George!]

admin said:

I checked Melos rebounding. Its 60 and 60, which I think has to be more then a C+. But its still listed at C+, so IDK.

Cool. Did you happen to check Calderon's potential? LMK.

[Dave]

admin said:

I checked Melos rebounding. Its 60 and 60, which I think has to be more then a C+. But its still listed at C+, so IDK.

Spence can you create a fake player at SF with ratings 60/60 and see what happens?