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Post by DB on Jul 15, 2008 18:52:15 GMT -5
NOW
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Post by cjmjones008 on Jul 15, 2008 19:01:45 GMT -5
If Favre goes to the Vikings or Bears I will either kill myself or quit watching the NFL... probably kill myself
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Post by cjmjones008 on Jul 15, 2008 19:03:22 GMT -5
I really don't see Favre going to the Jets unless they are the only option because he won't think they are an actual contender.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Jul 15, 2008 19:04:21 GMT -5
Is Billy Wagner retarded? It took him a good 5 seconds to realize what was going on.
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Jul 15, 2008 19:24:16 GMT -5
i hope the yanks win.
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Jul 15, 2008 19:24:23 GMT -5
yeeeee
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Post by Funky George! on Jul 15, 2008 19:24:34 GMT -5
hahahahaha
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Jul 15, 2008 19:26:07 GMT -5
dude i called you back!! wtf
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jul 15, 2008 19:29:48 GMT -5
jets are to gay to try something like this! come on phil u know! true, no balls but Marty is a fucking idiot for saying that the Jets will suck
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Jul 15, 2008 19:39:49 GMT -5
jets are to gay to try something like this! come on phil u know! true, no balls but Marty is a fucking idiot for saying that the Jets will suck The Jets will miss the playoffs again. They're going to learn the Redskin lesson, you don't build contenders by overpaying in Free Agency.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Jul 15, 2008 19:42:57 GMT -5
I don't see any way the Jets make the playoffs this year.
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Post by dj on Jul 15, 2008 19:55:52 GMT -5
Dark Knight should be good.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jul 15, 2008 19:58:18 GMT -5
true, no balls but Marty is a fucking idiot for saying that the Jets will suck The Jets will miss the playoffs again. They're going to learn the Redskin lesson, you don't build contenders by overpaying in Free Agency. I never once said they were going to make the playoffs. I think the QB situation needs to be resolved for us to have a chance. And as for you saying that the Jets building through FA... you really know very little about the team. Kerry Rhodes, Darrelle Revis, Vernon Gholston, David Harris... all great young defensive players that the Jets have drafted in the past 4 classes. D'Brick, Mangold, Leon Washington to name a few young of the offensive players... all big-time contributors on offense that the Jets have drafted in the past 3 classes. Traded down about only 15 spots in the 2nd round to get Thomas Jones, picked up a potentially beastly NT in Kris Jenkins by trading a 3rd and a 5th Not many teams have used the draft to build a great collection of young talent and impact vets as well as the Jets have. Unfortunately the team was an absolute mess when the Tannenbaum and Mangini arrived, so there's still some work to be done. However most the work they've done has been through the draft. And the only signing that the Jets made that I'd consider overpaying was the Pace signing
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Post by dj on Jul 15, 2008 20:00:12 GMT -5
I wanted Harris to fall to the Broncos in the 2nd round... didnt happen.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jul 15, 2008 20:09:36 GMT -5
I thought he was going to go the Patriots in the 1st round... I'm ecstatic he fell, he's already a beast.
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Jul 15, 2008 20:10:10 GMT -5
dark knight is going to be sooo good
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Jul 15, 2008 20:10:24 GMT -5
i cant wait. It looks incredible
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Post by cjmjones008 on Jul 15, 2008 20:15:58 GMT -5
The Jets will miss the playoffs again. They're going to learn the Redskin lesson, you don't build contenders by overpaying in Free Agency. I never once said they were going to make the playoffs. I think the QB situation needs to be resolved for us to have a chance. And as for you saying that the Jets building through FA... you really know very little about the team. Kerry Rhodes, Darrelle Revis, Vernon Gholston, David Harris... all great young defensive players that the Jets have drafted in the past 4 classes. D'Brick, Mangold, Leon Washington to name a few young of the offensive players... all big-time contributors on offense that the Jets have drafted in the past 3 classes. Traded down about only 15 spots in the 2nd round to get Thomas Jones, picked up a potentially beastly NT in Kris Jenkins by trading a 3rd and a 5th Not many teams have used the draft to build a great collection of young talent and impact vets as well as the Jets have. Unfortunately the team was an absolute mess when the Tannenbaum and Mangini arrived, so there's still some work to be done. However most the work they've done has been through the draft. And the only signing that the Jets made that I'd consider overpaying was the Pace signing Signing FAs like the Jets have done this offseason is what he is talking about. None of the guys they signed are great players and will only be short term answers. They may help the Jets compete the next season or two, but they are taking away playing time from younger guys which is going to hurt their development. The Packers are an extreme example of being built through the draft. The only starters signed in FA since Ted Thompson took over is Charles Woodson and Ryan Pickett. Ryan Grant is the only starer acquired by Ted Thompson through a trade. Every other player was either on the team prior to TT's arrival or drafted by him. Most of the backups have been draft picks in the past 4 drafts as well.
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Post by Funky George! on Jul 15, 2008 20:17:20 GMT -5
In my view, the Jets improved a good amount through FA but really did a horrendous, horrendous job. Couldn't be less impressed given the amount they spent. I think they're a seven win team with a pretty damn good future. If the defense puts it together this year (so much talent but they need to have some success at the line), they could fight for a WC spot but I doubt it. Chad definitely has a magical run left in him though. Just no protection last year.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Jul 15, 2008 20:17:35 GMT -5
The Jets will miss the playoffs again. They're going to learn the Redskin lesson, you don't build contenders by overpaying in Free Agency. I never once said they were going to make the playoffs. I think the QB situation needs to be resolved for us to have a chance. And as for you saying that the Jets building through FA... you really know very little about the team. Kerry Rhodes, Darrelle Revis, Vernon Gholston, David Harris... all great young defensive players that the Jets have drafted in the past 4 classes. D'Brick, Mangold, Leon Washington to name a few young of the offensive players... all big-time contributors on offense that the Jets have drafted in the past 3 classes. Traded down about only 15 spots in the 2nd round to get Thomas Jones, picked up a potentially beastly NT in Kris Jenkins by trading a 3rd and a 5th Not many teams have used the draft to build a great collection of young talent and impact vets as well as the Jets have. Unfortunately the team was an absolute mess when the Tannenbaum and Mangini arrived, so there's still some work to be done. However most the work they've done has been through the draft. And the only signing that the Jets made that I'd consider overpaying was the Pace signing So tell me this... how does a team that you say does not suck, NOT make playoffs? Isn't that a contradiction? I'm talking about Free Agency THIS year. They spent the most money out of any team this season in Free Agency, I never said that that was the ONLY way they acquired players. Mangold didn't play as well last season as his rookie season, and your "saviors" Tannebaum and Mangin were stupid to ship out Kendall to Washington and not fill anyone in his space last year. D'Brick has been solid, but shouldn't he show flashes that he can be a shut-down tackle? I didn't see that at all, that's not a top 5 pick, in my eyes. Woody and Kendall should help out D'Brick and Mangold tons... but the chemistry won't be there. You mean to tell me you don't think the Jets overpaid for Kenyon Coleman? LMAO get real. At WR, you have an aging and oft-injured Coles and Cotchery who's had one really good season, but more importantly, NO QB. Though all that is pointless because you agree they won't make playoffs, but they don't suck? LOL how does that work
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Post by Funky George! on Jul 15, 2008 20:17:42 GMT -5
(and yeah, he should be the starter)
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Post by GMGreggor on Jul 15, 2008 20:18:36 GMT -5
Jets suck.
No QB,RB,WR , only a soso OL, not a great defense.
They are'nt that good.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jul 15, 2008 20:23:22 GMT -5
Jets suck. No QB,RB,WR , only a soso OL, not a great defense. They are'nt that good. Are you serious? No RB, no WR? And the pass defense was in the top 10 after their bye week, and they just added a run-stuffer and NT to occupy blockers in Kris Jenkins. The only legitimate claims you make are about the QB and OL situations, but even so Faneca is a huge addition.
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Post by Funky George! on Jul 15, 2008 20:23:40 GMT -5
Greg, Jets are good at the skill positions aside from a shady situation at QB. It's the OL that sucked.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Jul 15, 2008 20:25:30 GMT -5
I win, Marty 92,234 - BBS 0
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