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Post by youngstabullz on Sept 20, 2008 14:17:31 GMT -5
I would put Oden in front of Durant easily. I'd actually probably put him in front of Howard. To be doing 31 ppg at age 23 is incredible, especially for a big man. I don't know if I've ever seen that before. Monta probably deserves a spot on this list. Not only is he having an awesome year for Dan, but I expect him to be B+/A/A-/A soon enough. Eh Oden is playin ga bit above his head at this moment honestly. Durant is going to lead the league in scoring for a few years in a row now that he's on an Atlanta team with not many other options and he is also 23 years old and putting up those numbers. |
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Post by Funky George! on Sept 20, 2008 14:19:50 GMT -5
I would put Oden in front of Durant easily. I'd actually probably put him in front of Howard. To be doing 31 ppg at age 23 is incredible, especially for a big man. I don't know if I've ever seen that before. Monta probably deserves a spot on this list. Not only is he having an awesome year for Dan, but I expect him to be B+/A/A-/A soon enough. Eh Oden is playin ga bit above his head at this moment honestly. Durant is going to lead the league in scoring for a few years in a row now that he's on an Atlanta team with not many other options and he is also 23 years old and putting up those numbers. WTF? Awful logic. Oden is on a 30-8 team and is outperforming Durant, who's doing it on bad teams. One guy has inflated stats, the other dominates on the league's best team. Playing over his head? He just got +10 inside, plays great defense, does 12 rpg, and the 30 ppg on 50% is amazing. Nothing about his ratings or performance suggests he isn't way more valuable than Durant. |
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Post by Funky George! on Sept 20, 2008 14:20:23 GMT -5
11 rpg*
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Post by Funky George! on Sept 20, 2008 14:23:31 GMT -5
I gave him salary relief and 2nd rounders for Okafor and he said no! This can't be serious. Can't be serious. Please don't let this be serious. |
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Post by youngstabullz on Sept 20, 2008 14:24:09 GMT -5
Durant is 6'11, has the handles to play PG and can score from ANY WHERE on the court and is 23 Years Old. Nontheless they are both pretty awesome players to start a franchise to build around.
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Post by Funky George! on Sept 20, 2008 14:27:35 GMT -5
Durant is 6'11, has the handles to play PG and can score from ANY WHERE on the court and is 23 Years Old. Nontheless they are both pretty awesome players to start a franchise to build around. He doesn't have the handles to play PG. It's not that close. An A-/A- SG that is NOT as good offensively as an A- inside big. He's not. One guy does 30.6 on 51% FG on a 30-8 team. The other guy does 30.8 ppg on 45% FG on an awful team. B- defense to Oden's A, too. |
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Post by youngstabullz on Sept 20, 2008 14:36:14 GMT -5
Durant is 6'11, has the handles to play PG and can score from ANY WHERE on the court and is 23 Years Old. Nontheless they are both pretty awesome players to start a franchise to build around. He doesn't have the handles to play PG. It's not that close. An A-/A- SG that is NOT as good offensively as an A- inside big. He's not. One guy does 30.6 on 51% FG on a 30-8 team. The other guy does 30.8 ppg on 45% FG on an awful team. B- defense to Oden's A, too. The thing that you are really negating is that Durant is the same height as Greg Oden so technically you can consider Durant as a big man as well. Also, Greg Oden has the best pure PG in the league dishing him the ball which DEFINITELY inflates his numbers while Durant has no one to give him open buckets which simply does deflate Durants numbers and inflates Oden's. Its pretty much a question on... Michael Jordan without the 6 titles or Duncan without the 3 titles. Me personally, I'd rather have MJ. |
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Sept 20, 2008 14:37:36 GMT -5
I gave him salary relief and 2nd rounders for Okafor and he said no! nothing in your brain told you that there was no chance he'd even respect you after that offer? seriously that's maybe the worst offer I've heard of from this league |
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Sept 20, 2008 14:38:24 GMT -5
He doesn't have the handles to play PG. It's not that close. An A-/A- SG that is NOT as good offensively as an A- inside big. He's not. One guy does 30.6 on 51% FG on a 30-8 team. The other guy does 30.8 ppg on 45% FG on an awful team. B- defense to Oden's A, too. The thing that you are really negating is that Durant is the same height as Greg Oden so technically you can consider Durant as a big man as well. Its pretty much a question on... Michael Jordan without the 6 titles or Duncan without the 3 titles. Me personally, I'd rather have MJ. I'm not following |
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Post by youngstabullz on Sept 20, 2008 14:41:13 GMT -5
I gave him salary relief and 2nd rounders for Okafor and he said no! nothing in your brain told you that there was no chance he'd even respect you after that offer? seriously that's maybe the worst offer I've heard of from this league Nothing in YOUR brain told you that there was no chance I'd respect you after you refer to me like that? Seriously, this is my first day as the GM and I made an offer which I obviously knew was not correct given the standards of the league... |
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Post by Rocky on Sept 20, 2008 15:20:26 GMT -5
nothing in your brain told you that there was no chance he'd even respect you after that offer? seriously that's maybe the worst offer I've heard of from this league Nothing in YOUR brain told you that there was no chance I'd respect you after you refer to me like that? Seriously, this is my first day as the GM and I made an offer which I obviously knew was not correct given the standards of the league... This confused me. Was it a serious offer or not? |
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Post by youngstabullz on Sept 20, 2008 15:22:25 GMT -5
Nothing in YOUR brain told you that there was no chance I'd respect you after you refer to me like that? Seriously, this is my first day as the GM and I made an offer which I obviously knew was not correct given the standards of the league... This confused me. Was it a serious offer or not? Honestly, I was just curious if he wanted salary relief and my best player + a bunch of 2nd rounders for him and I can completely understand when he said no. Thats it lol. |
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Sept 20, 2008 15:23:22 GMT -5
hahaha
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Post by Speed Racer on Sept 20, 2008 19:22:12 GMT -5
Remember when I said I didn't like this guy? I still don't.
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Post by youngstabullz on Sept 20, 2008 19:31:49 GMT -5
Remember when I said I didn't like this guy? I still don't. Why don't you like me?  |
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Post by Dave on Sept 20, 2008 23:01:43 GMT -5
Cool Lebron is the man and we'll definitely have the money for him. We've cleared so much cap and salaries that we will definitely be able to afford giving Lebron 20 mil a year.
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Post by Skillz on Sept 20, 2008 23:20:51 GMT -5
As much as i like Durant, wolves' argument is off base. How are Oden's stats inflated, aren't the nets one of the best teams in the league. If anything, Durant's are because he's the only one getting looks. Height doesn't play a huge factor in fbb so i don't know if that argument works either. However, for the future, i say its a tossup and i take durant because he's mine.
He will be A- A- B- A- B- C in his prime, while Oden will be A C C A A- C i'm guessing.
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Post by Dave on Sept 20, 2008 23:28:28 GMT -5
Look around the league there are a ton of talented SF. I'd give the edge to a PF/C in this league every time.
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Post by Rocky on Sept 20, 2008 23:29:09 GMT -5
Look around the league there are a ton of talented SF. I'd give the edge to a PF/C in this league every time. Completely agree. I think Oden is clearly superior to Durant, not much of an argument for me. |
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Post by cjmjones008 on Sept 20, 2008 23:37:50 GMT -5
it doesnt much matter guys... you are going to only get mihm robertson and a 2nd for any of the guys on this list
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Post by Gossip Girl on Sept 21, 2008 2:50:49 GMT -5
it doesnt much matter guys... you are going to only get mihm robertson and a 2nd for any of the guys on this list hahahaha |
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Sept 21, 2008 10:53:36 GMT -5
why does every new-comer to this league think we actually give a fuck about expirings and 2nds?
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Post by Ducky on Sept 21, 2008 11:38:14 GMT -5
DWIGHT! He should be #1.  |
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Post by noves on Sept 21, 2008 13:46:27 GMT -5
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Post by Gossip Girl on Sept 21, 2008 16:31:51 GMT -5
re-reading this made my day
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