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Post by duceisinmyheart on Oct 7, 2008 8:20:51 GMT -5
yeah now SHUT THE FUCK UP.
What did Peterson do? What did Bush do?
Bush kept the Saints in that game.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Oct 7, 2008 8:22:19 GMT -5
and that's what I'm talking about Reggie Bush is a game changer.
He changed the dynamic of that game and almost single-handedly won the game for the Saints.
NOW do you see my goddamn point?
Reggie Bush player > Adrian Peterson player
Adrian Peterson rusher > Reggie Bush rusher
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Post by Speed Racer on Oct 7, 2008 8:35:39 GMT -5
One game, dude. Plus, the Saints still lost.
Every GM in the NFL would take AP over Reggie Bush.
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Post by GMGreggor on Oct 7, 2008 8:40:37 GMT -5
Eh,Peterson is the only player they have on offense worth a crap. They have Gus fucking Frerotte at QB. They suck. Not to mention their coach sucks.
The next time they come up with an imaginative offensive gameplan will be the first.
You put Peterson on the Saints and he'd put up numbers that are scary.
Bush is a better punt returner maybe ok. But what else did he do? When they hand off the ball to him he's just looking for a place to fall down pretty much. I dont know why they dont just move him to the slot permanently. Thats what he looks like to me,a slot receiver pretty much.
And on that first return his unit sealed off that whole damn side of the field,hell Shaq could'a ran that one back .
I still stand by what I said, he's overated and not the 2nd pick in the draft good.
I'd still take Peterson and many others over him as my starting RB.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Oct 7, 2008 8:41:14 GMT -5
One game, dude. Plus, the Saints still lost. Every GM in the NFL would take AP over Reggie Bush. The only game you watched, he's been doing this all season. |
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Oct 7, 2008 8:50:52 GMT -5
What does this have to do with anything? That Minnesota offensive line is among best in the league and is the main reason why Peterson is able to break free in a lot of big runs too, not to take away from Peterson at all, but you put any back back there and he's a 1,000 yard rusher, see Chester Taylor.
The Saints drafted Reggie Bush for a reason, because he can put up "scary numbers" he doesn't have to rush for 200 yards a game, to put up those "scary numbers" as witnessed last night, which is why Reggie Bush is top 3 in total yardage. Though, this isn't "what if" shit Greg, if you go by that you can say "man if Barry Sander was on the Cowboys" or "if Randy Moss played his entire career with Tom Brady". You can make that arguement with ANYONE.
What else did he do? 7 catches for 64 yards? Well Greg, that's what they want Bush to do, get as many yards as possible. His rookie season and his second season he tried for the big play way to many times and would lose more yardage than he would gain. The Saints want him to just take the yardage given to him. That's why he "just looks for a place to fall." Slot receiver? LMAO get out of here. Why would you want a guy who creates problems for coverage out of the backfield in the slot position in every play? That's just stupid.
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Post by youngstabullz on Oct 7, 2008 14:04:17 GMT -5
You are comparing two COMPLETELY different players.
Bush is an all-purpose skill player, I doubt he'll ever be a 25+ carries a game guy.
Peterson is waht any GM in the league would want to build a franchise around, a complete pounder, and a couple back. A back who can make good cuts and can also do some of the finnese shit.
In all, it is going to be who ever stays healthier through out their careers to truly determine which player will be better but they are completely different players.
Bush is a reciever/off running back while Peterson is a hard core, old school running back. Fuck, Reggie wasn't even the main running back at USC.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Oct 7, 2008 14:14:05 GMT -5
You're an idiot, really.
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Post by youngstabullz on Oct 7, 2008 14:19:10 GMT -5
You are probably the dumbest person I've ever met, and I've met people pretty dumb, like your mother. HAHAHA dumb ass. |
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Oct 7, 2008 14:22:44 GMT -5
You are probably the dumbest person I've ever met, and I've met people pretty dumb, like your mother. HAHAHA dumb ass. You've met my mother? Cool! I'll ask her today |
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Post by Jay on Oct 7, 2008 15:17:14 GMT -5
Kevin Smith is better than both, and that's all that really matters.
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Post by GMGreggor on Oct 7, 2008 15:58:49 GMT -5
What does this have to do with anything? That Minnesota offensive line is among best in the league and is the main reason why Peterson is able to break free in a lot of big runs too, not to take away from Peterson at all, but you put any back back there and he's a 1,000 yard rusher, see Chester Taylor. The Saints drafted Reggie Bush for a reason, because he can put up "scary numbers" he doesn't have to rush for 200 yards a game, to put up those "scary numbers" as witnessed last night, which is why Reggie Bush is top 3 in total yardage. Though, this isn't "what if" shit Greg, if you go by that you can say "man if Barry Sander was on the Cowboys" or "if Randy Moss played his entire career with Tom Brady". You can make that arguement with ANYONE. What else did he do? 7 catches for 64 yards? Well Greg, that's what they want Bush to do, get as many yards as possible. His rookie season and his second season he tried for the big play way to many times and would lose more yardage than he would gain. The Saints want him to just take the yardage given to him. That's why he "just looks for a place to fall." Slot receiver? LMAO get out of here. Why would you want a guy who creates problems for coverage out of the backfield in the slot position in every play? That's just stupid. OK, how many pass plays were down the field for Bush? Bush is a glorified 3rd down/utility back. From what I've seen he drifts along the line of scrimmage waiting for an outlet pass. That is not a great versatile back as you put it. He does lead the league in receiving,but his avg per cth is only 8.4. Thats not great. He is not an every down back. You're right the Saints dont use him as they do Deuce in a typical RB role. That's because they cant. He sucks running the ball, he does'nt like contact. And I bet the Saints thought that he'd be much better at running the ball when they drafted him. His avg per rush is 3.3,that just sucks. I'll tell a big reason NO lost last nite New Orleans Rush Yds Avg Lng TD FumL R. Bush 12 29 2.4 10 0 1 Right there, if you cant run the ball you dont win on a consistent basis. Marshall Faulk I'd consider a great versatile back. He did'nt just catch swing passes out of the backfield he would run pass routes. And they would throw it to him downfield. Thats in addition to him being an excellent runner. When Bush lines up out wide I dont think I've ever seen him run a route and be the primary receiver. They use him as a decoy many more times than not. He does look like a top PR guy. OK, fine I'll give you that. But for the second pick in the draft I think I want more than just a great punt returner. And in close game teams just wont kick to him like they dont Hester unless they have good special teams. |
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