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Post by Spencer on Oct 16, 2008 11:14:29 GMT -5
K. So I had started a 1965 league file for our next installment of BBS. But, the more I think about it the more Id like to just continue this league far into the future. So, I think for the immediate future the college game will do to create draft classes. Ill probably give the college league about 5 years. See how that goes. If it works well, I could see us running about 20 years off, or until all the "real" players are retired. Then we need to decide what direction to go in.
My first thought was retro. I think it worked really well for us in the first version. I think some would be against this, some may not.
If we dont go retro we need to decide whether a restart would be most beneficial, or if the college game, or default fake draft classes will keep us interested.
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Post by Rocky on Oct 16, 2008 11:16:14 GMT -5
I love retro, and I'd rather we continue this league with retro than re-start with retro.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 16, 2008 11:16:26 GMT -5
Obviously getting Gms will continue to be tough if we never restart. Ive already got 2 or 3 guys that would join if we were starting fresh, not sure thats worth it though. As Ive stated before, I really want this league to have longevity. I want people to view this as their favorite version of BBS ever when its done.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 16, 2008 11:17:44 GMT -5
I love retro, and I'd rather we continue this league with retro than re-start with retro. I was thinking we could jump back to like 1975 for drafts. And slowly introduce FAs that were in the drafts previous to 75. People always argue that retro leagues are too predictable. I think this is a flawed concept. You never know how guys sim, and ratings, while important only tell half the story.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Oct 16, 2008 11:18:39 GMT -5
I love retro, and I'd rather we continue this league with retro than re-start with retro.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 16, 2008 11:18:42 GMT -5
And like I said, Id want to go retro only once we had retired all the real players. So like 15-20 years of college game draft classes.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Oct 16, 2008 11:19:22 GMT -5
and I hate a league where I don't know 90% of the players. That's why I didn't join UOSL when Ducky asked me to, it's boring to me when I don't know anything about certain players in real life.
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Post by Gossip Girl on Oct 16, 2008 11:20:38 GMT -5
I love retro, and I'd rather we continue this league with retro than re-start with retro.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 16, 2008 11:21:14 GMT -5
and I hate a league where I don't know 90% of the players. That's why I didn't join UOSL when Ducky asked me to, it's boring to me when I don't know anything about certain players in real life. Ya. Im hoping the college league gives everyone a little more insight on these players. Obviously it is tough to get excited about ratings when you have no idea who the name are. Thats why I love retro. Someone like Rick Mahorn can be a stud, and you know its unrealistic, but its still fun cause youve heard the name before.
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Post by jahallstar on Oct 16, 2008 11:21:20 GMT -5
I would like retro if the drafts were in random order.....ie..we would not know who would come out 10 years in advance.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 16, 2008 11:22:21 GMT -5
I would like retro if the drafts were in random order.....ie..we would not know who would come out 10 years in advance. I could probably work around that. Maybe run a random number generator to give me the order of draft years before we start.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 16, 2008 11:22:53 GMT -5
But I also think the 5 1sts rue would prevent a lot of what happened in BBS1.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Oct 16, 2008 11:23:21 GMT -5
yeah no more Silk / Reilly dynasties.
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Post by Jay on Oct 16, 2008 11:25:00 GMT -5
Never was a fan of retro. Never got these guys saying they don't want to be in a league with ""made up" prospects, but are perfectly fine projecting 11 year olds into the pros. I see no difference there.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Oct 16, 2008 11:25:17 GMT -5
I love retro
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Post by DB on Oct 16, 2008 11:27:10 GMT -5
yeah that was the only problem with BBS1 and we fixed it with the 5 firsts rule, so that is good.
I really like retro, I do not know why some people do not enjoy it, it is pretty fun to me. The ratings are not exactly how they were in real life, it is completely different. But I do agree, somehow we should not know exactly who is coming out in the upcoming draft, we can get ideas but nothing for certain, like we do pretty much now.
I would like to stay with this league though for a little longer, i love it. These college players will be interesting I think, new dynamic to the league.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Oct 16, 2008 11:27:59 GMT -5
I think it will be hard to get new guys to join up if we have a league filled of unknown college league guys which would likely make us restart
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Oct 16, 2008 11:29:00 GMT -5
Never was a fan of retro. Never got these guys saying they don't want to be in a league with ""made up" prospects, but are perfectly fine projecting 11 year olds into the pros. I see no difference there. I hate both, I don't prefer either or which is why retro is the way to go.
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Post by DB on Oct 16, 2008 11:29:08 GMT -5
yeah gms are annoying as fuck, they all want to join stupid new leagues that collapse after two weeks.
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Post by Rocky on Oct 16, 2008 11:30:01 GMT -5
Never was a fan of retro. Never got these guys saying they don't want to be in a league with ""made up" prospects, but are perfectly fine projecting 11 year olds into the pros. I see no difference there. Agreed with that. 11 year olds are fictional to me.
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Post by aar on Oct 16, 2008 11:30:03 GMT -5
I always thought a cool idea would be to randomly draw a year before each season and use the draft from that corresponding year.
So the league could start with 1965, then have 1983 the next year, then 2005, then 1968, etc.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 16, 2008 11:32:11 GMT -5
I always thought a cool idea would be to randomly draw a year before each season and use the draft from that corresponding year. So the league could start with 1965, then have 1983 the next year, then 2005, then 1968, etc. That seems like what the plan would be. Could be interesting.
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Post by Gossip Girl on Oct 16, 2008 11:32:12 GMT -5
I always thought a cool idea would be to randomly draw a year before each season and use the draft from that corresponding year. So the league could start with 1965, then have 1983 the next year, then 2005, then 1968, etc. intriguing, dont think it would really catch on though
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Post by Rocky on Oct 16, 2008 11:32:20 GMT -5
I always thought a cool idea would be to randomly draw a year before each season and use the draft from that corresponding year. So the league could start with 1965, then have 1983 the next year, then 2005, then 1968, etc. I'd rather us randomly pick a 5 year span, and then divvy up the top prospects throughout the 5 years. I'd rather someone not be able to tank in the 1996 class, have three lottos and land three complete superstars while someone else could tank in the Kenyon/Stro Swift draft and come out with nothing.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Oct 16, 2008 11:32:39 GMT -5
I always thought a cool idea would be to randomly draw a year before each season and use the draft from that corresponding year. So the league could start with 1965, then have 1983 the next year, then 2005, then 1968, etc. I've always loved this idea
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