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Post by Rocky on Oct 16, 2008 13:18:42 GMT -5
Hey Spence, remember that time when I signed Magic away from Hernando, and you reversed it because he didn't even bid? WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT ABOUT
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Post by Gossip Girl on Oct 16, 2008 13:19:16 GMT -5
Don't become Global.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 16, 2008 13:23:20 GMT -5
Hey Spence, remember that time when I signed Magic away from Hernando, and you reversed it because he didn't even bid? WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT ABOUT Boy was that a dick maneuver.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 16, 2008 13:23:59 GMT -5
How could we become Global? If I gave real potential to like 5 GMs and those 5 won the championship every year?
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Post by Ebener 12 on Oct 16, 2008 13:31:57 GMT -5
I'd be down with whatever. I think a cool idea would be to randomize the draft years. Would be awesome to see old stars mixed with new ones.
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Post by Skillz on Oct 16, 2008 13:46:38 GMT -5
I think we should extend this league as long as possible
I'm not a huge fan of RETRO honestly. I think fictional players are fun especially if we have some background about them (college league)
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Post by noves on Oct 16, 2008 14:17:54 GMT -5
I'm also not a fan of retro, but I'd give it a shot.
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Post by AllStar0608 on Oct 16, 2008 14:18:22 GMT -5
college > retro all day long.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Oct 16, 2008 14:19:10 GMT -5
No one likes retro, but they never give a reason why, it's dumb.
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Post by AllStar0608 on Oct 16, 2008 14:32:22 GMT -5
No one likes retro, but they never give a reason why, it's dumb. 1) i like the unknown of new players 2) if i wanted a league to turn retro i would look for one in the first place 3) i dont want to draft guys who IRL are closer to death than playing or are already dead 4) If you think people trade based on names now (which u have accused people of doing and they definitely do), it only gets worse when retro players show up. 5) Some of the players that are regarded as superstars in the past wouldnt be very successful in the type of game that is played now, but they will get rated like Gods. 6) The creativity is limited because these people already exist. You can create rookies for the league with abnormal skill sets, different backgrounds, college sim league and shit like that. That is FAR more exciting than recycling names from 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago. One of my favorite parts of NBN2 was that we had guys who were being created by Will/Play. There were different types of players. Not just your typical guys. Guys that have different skill sets that can be used differently and still be successful even though they arent the norm. Plus Play and Will created backgrounds to some of these players and wrote up detailed notes. The drafts were the reason I enjoyed NBN2. Ive been in retro leagues and they are just boring because there isnt anything creative, exciting, or new about the incoming players.
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Post by youngstabullz on Oct 16, 2008 15:52:41 GMT -5
It will be EXTREMELY hard to get new GMs into the league with all fictional players. They won't understand that background aspect of the league and it will disinterest them.
I am somewhat feeling this in UOSL.
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Post by James on Oct 16, 2008 16:58:54 GMT -5
IMO keep this league going..
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Post by Spencer on Oct 16, 2008 17:43:48 GMT -5
IMO keep this league going.. This isn't extremely insightful.
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Post by Dave on Oct 16, 2008 17:46:09 GMT -5
Keep this league going for a long time. I also don't even think we need to start the college league yet there are plenty of really good college players and high school kids who haven't been created. We hardly see the upperclassmen in drafts. Guys develop over college and sometimes we just go all out on hype(youth).
Also if we were to recreate the league I'd want to disable trading future picks for expansion draft picks. I think it creates an unfair advantage for teams.
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Post by Jay on Oct 16, 2008 17:50:21 GMT -5
How could we become Global? If I gave real potential to like 5 GMs and those 5 won the championship every year?
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Post by Spencer on Oct 16, 2008 17:54:07 GMT -5
Keep this league going for a long time. I also don't even think we need to start the college league yet there are plenty of really good college players and high school kids who haven't been created. We hardly see the upperclassmen in drafts. Guys develop over college and sometimes we just go all out on hype(youth). Also if we were to recreate the league I'd want to disable trading future picks for expansion draft picks. I think it creates an unfair advantage for teams. I dont want to make any more files with youngsters though.
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Post by Spencer on Oct 16, 2008 17:54:29 GMT -5
How could we become Global? If I gave real potential to like 5 GMs and those 5 won the championship every year? I dont understand why anyone would still be in that league.
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Post by Gossip Girl on Oct 16, 2008 17:58:12 GMT -5
What I meant by dont be global was don't have players like Michael Jordan, Bob Cousy, and Lebron James all be playing and amazing at the same time. Not fun.
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Post by Rocky on Oct 16, 2008 18:28:20 GMT -5
Keep this league going for a long time. I also don't even think we need to start the college league yet there are plenty of really good college players and high school kids who haven't been created. We hardly see the upperclassmen in drafts. Guys develop over college and sometimes we just go all out on hype(youth). Also if we were to recreate the league I'd want to disable trading future picks for expansion draft picks. I think it creates an unfair advantage for teams. Then people would draft the player that another teams wants, and send the player for futures. No way around it.
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Post by James on Oct 16, 2008 18:35:22 GMT -5
No restart.
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Post by Speed Racer on Oct 16, 2008 18:43:57 GMT -5
Keep this league going for a long time. I also don't even think we need to start the college league yet there are plenty of really good college players and high school kids who haven't been created. We hardly see the upperclassmen in drafts. Guys develop over college and sometimes we just go all out on hype(youth). Also if we were to recreate the league I'd want to disable trading future picks for expansion draft picks. I think it creates an unfair advantage for teams. I dont want to make any more files with youngsters though. Why? Just legitimately curious.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Oct 16, 2008 19:01:35 GMT -5
I think there are still a good pool of prospects (international and HS) to choose from, but I understand the move to the college game. Ten and eleven year old real life prospects are just as fake to me as the ones generated by FBCB. I have some concerns about the game, but hopefully they can be tweaked.
I'm not huge on using retro draft classes in the future, but if eventually that's probably where the league's going to go if we don't restart for a while.
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Post by Skillz on Oct 16, 2008 19:10:10 GMT -5
Spence, just a warning from SLOX. The college league worked very well but PG's are very overrated by FBB and the college league so you'll have to edit their ratings down.
yee
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Post by DB on Oct 16, 2008 19:33:51 GMT -5
Keep this league going for a long time. I also don't even think we need to start the college league yet there are plenty of really good college players and high school kids who haven't been created. We hardly see the upperclassmen in drafts. Guys develop over college and sometimes we just go all out on hype(youth). Also if we were to recreate the league I'd want to disable trading future picks for expansion draft picks. I think it creates an unfair advantage for teams. I dont want to make any more files with youngsters though. I can understand this, and it really does not bother me. Either way these guys are unknown to me, so some info about this is all we need. Does not matter where they come from, really.
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Post by James on Oct 16, 2008 19:44:13 GMT -5
No restart. Spencer if you want, in a Word document I can put together potential draftees and ratings up until 2025 using real players for you, so you would just have to develop the players in FBB and do the numerical data entry.
Just an option.
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