Post by Rocky on Oct 16, 2008 18:14:35 GMT -5
Is BBS what it used to be for you? Has BBS already experienced its best days?
BBS is certainly what it used to be for me mainly because there is still a solid core of guys that I enjoy being on the forum with. My new team direction will continue to keep me interested for quite a while. Even though I have been in the league longer than the newer GM's I didn't truly experience the BBS of old with GM's like Reilly, Tiger, a2j, and Hernando so it's not the same for me as it is for the other core guys.
Who has been getting on your nerves lately (Martinez and YB are not valid answers, give me something that I might not be able to guess)?
Blue. I love the kid but the whole Gilbert deal was a bitch to deal with. It took at least a week to get done and it felt like it took forever and then of course he asks for firsts on top of Gilbert because he doesn't have any futures. I felt like I needed to pull the trigger on something because the team was too good with Gilbert, and I liked the guys I was getting, so I did it anyway. The position I was in kind of sucked big time. Whatever, he owes me in the future.
Pig recently said, “I miss old BBS with the old GM's, I apologize but I hate these new guys,” in his “My Situation” thread. Is the (negative) impact of the new GMs overblown?
Yeah, I would have to say its a little overblown. It's like freshmen coming into High School or whatever other comparison you want to draw. Sure they are going to make their fair share of bad offers and trades, but it's all part of the learning curve. It's not fair to judge someone based on their first few weeks and even months as part of the league. If they are active, thats really all you can ask for.
On September 19, Pig said, “I have never until now been more optimistic and excited about any franchise of mine since Kobe-Ricky Davis-Granger-Bogut-Curry team from the last BBS,” after dealing Durant. He then proceeded to make 5 more trades from the 19th of September through October 10. Yet, yesterday he said, “I'm a hassle to talk trade with because odds are I don't want to talk about trades and it shows with no one even trying to contact me about any thing on my team in weeks,” in his “My Situation” thread. What do you make of this? Feel free to tell him that his players aren’t that good which is why no one is trying to trade for them.
I already responded with a long response to this thread but I will reiterate some of the finer points of my post while adding a few new ones. From what's been said it seems like Pig has been a GM of different interest levels throughout BBS. While it is easy to lose interest in your team when you aren't competing, it's for a reason. Sometimes you have to delay your gratification for a better team in the future. Not everyone can squeeze the most out of their players like Reilly. You have to stay with your team through thick and thin.
I do sympathize with Pigs position of having an overachieving team. However, this begs the question, why haven't you traded your overachieving players for worse players so you can improve your draft position? The moves you make to tank can be just as important as the moves you make to compete.
With this being said I honestly see no reason for Pig to leave the league, as it does have a decent future. I am sure he is going to miss it if he leaves, and this new downturn in interest has seemingly only been since everyone criticized his Durant trade, a move he felt trapped into making.
Outlawz has recently gone after Derwin for the way he behaved on the forums for a few weeks. Outlawz said something along the lines of if Derwin was not friends with Aaron’s crew then he would have taken a ton of a shit for how he was acting. Do you think this is true? Did you even notice this?
This is mildly true and I did notice this a bit. Maybe I noticed this a little more than others because he is a friend of mine IRL. Devin is new to the league and you kind of have to find your niche in the league before making any rash comments. It's cool though. I'm sure if someone disagrees with him, they will let him know. Fact of the matter is, adding an active GM to the league has been helpful.
Who are the top-5 GMs in your opinion? Who are the bottom 5 GMs?
Top 5
Dave- Winning
Outlawz- see Dave
Mark- Always finds a way to be a top 3 team in the East and seems to make all the right moves. Plus I love how all his players are B+ defense or better.
Dan- He is really on top of his game right now and has really put together an elite squad, despite his slow start.
Aaron Haberman- Everyone of the 4 GM's I listed above have come to him for advice on many, many occasions. He thinks about FBB more than he sleeps. The kid is full of reasons why he thinks things are and are not working, some seem crazy, others seem genius. While he may only have one championship in BBS and none in the current version he is always looking for a way to compete and always finds it.
Bottom 5
Allstar- Never does anything with his team to make it top notch.
DJ- see Allstar
Jah- see above 2
Donatello- The guy actually said he would rather keep Renardo Sydney than trade him for a better player because he would rather have a new GM keep Sydney than him remain in the league. He seems to be in the clear for the time being after he got Prince and Baron for a pile of dog shit from Galo, but I mean what kind of attitude is that?
Me- I traded Rose for Arenas without a real plan of action and waited a bunch of sims to trade him and still didn't end up with a great deal.
Who is the most overrated GM in the league?
Maniac- He loves the shit out of his team and is so happy with his core, but he has yet to do anything. He sucks DeJuan Blair like he is getting paid for it. We get it, he's good. If he wasn't from Pittsburgh he might as well be an afterthought. John Wall is good, won't be elite. DeRozan is great but like I said, do something already. The kid constantly talks about Pittsburgh like it's some sort of utopia. Once again, we get it, it's nice. We don't need hourly updates. And Jeff Reed being the best kicker? Be serious. Ok, this was more of a Pittsburgh rant than an overrated GM answer, so what? He is going to be mad at me. It's okay, we talk too much anyway. The only reason I am writing this is because we had this argument online while I was in class today. Good times.
Will Spence sim during his honeymoon?
If he has internet connection, there will be at least one sim. Seriously though, don't sim. Enjoy yourself.
BBS is certainly what it used to be for me mainly because there is still a solid core of guys that I enjoy being on the forum with. My new team direction will continue to keep me interested for quite a while. Even though I have been in the league longer than the newer GM's I didn't truly experience the BBS of old with GM's like Reilly, Tiger, a2j, and Hernando so it's not the same for me as it is for the other core guys.
Who has been getting on your nerves lately (Martinez and YB are not valid answers, give me something that I might not be able to guess)?
Blue. I love the kid but the whole Gilbert deal was a bitch to deal with. It took at least a week to get done and it felt like it took forever and then of course he asks for firsts on top of Gilbert because he doesn't have any futures. I felt like I needed to pull the trigger on something because the team was too good with Gilbert, and I liked the guys I was getting, so I did it anyway. The position I was in kind of sucked big time. Whatever, he owes me in the future.
Pig recently said, “I miss old BBS with the old GM's, I apologize but I hate these new guys,” in his “My Situation” thread. Is the (negative) impact of the new GMs overblown?
Yeah, I would have to say its a little overblown. It's like freshmen coming into High School or whatever other comparison you want to draw. Sure they are going to make their fair share of bad offers and trades, but it's all part of the learning curve. It's not fair to judge someone based on their first few weeks and even months as part of the league. If they are active, thats really all you can ask for.
On September 19, Pig said, “I have never until now been more optimistic and excited about any franchise of mine since Kobe-Ricky Davis-Granger-Bogut-Curry team from the last BBS,” after dealing Durant. He then proceeded to make 5 more trades from the 19th of September through October 10. Yet, yesterday he said, “I'm a hassle to talk trade with because odds are I don't want to talk about trades and it shows with no one even trying to contact me about any thing on my team in weeks,” in his “My Situation” thread. What do you make of this? Feel free to tell him that his players aren’t that good which is why no one is trying to trade for them.
I already responded with a long response to this thread but I will reiterate some of the finer points of my post while adding a few new ones. From what's been said it seems like Pig has been a GM of different interest levels throughout BBS. While it is easy to lose interest in your team when you aren't competing, it's for a reason. Sometimes you have to delay your gratification for a better team in the future. Not everyone can squeeze the most out of their players like Reilly. You have to stay with your team through thick and thin.
I do sympathize with Pigs position of having an overachieving team. However, this begs the question, why haven't you traded your overachieving players for worse players so you can improve your draft position? The moves you make to tank can be just as important as the moves you make to compete.
With this being said I honestly see no reason for Pig to leave the league, as it does have a decent future. I am sure he is going to miss it if he leaves, and this new downturn in interest has seemingly only been since everyone criticized his Durant trade, a move he felt trapped into making.
Outlawz has recently gone after Derwin for the way he behaved on the forums for a few weeks. Outlawz said something along the lines of if Derwin was not friends with Aaron’s crew then he would have taken a ton of a shit for how he was acting. Do you think this is true? Did you even notice this?
This is mildly true and I did notice this a bit. Maybe I noticed this a little more than others because he is a friend of mine IRL. Devin is new to the league and you kind of have to find your niche in the league before making any rash comments. It's cool though. I'm sure if someone disagrees with him, they will let him know. Fact of the matter is, adding an active GM to the league has been helpful.
Who are the top-5 GMs in your opinion? Who are the bottom 5 GMs?
Top 5
Dave- Winning
Outlawz- see Dave
Mark- Always finds a way to be a top 3 team in the East and seems to make all the right moves. Plus I love how all his players are B+ defense or better.
Dan- He is really on top of his game right now and has really put together an elite squad, despite his slow start.
Aaron Haberman- Everyone of the 4 GM's I listed above have come to him for advice on many, many occasions. He thinks about FBB more than he sleeps. The kid is full of reasons why he thinks things are and are not working, some seem crazy, others seem genius. While he may only have one championship in BBS and none in the current version he is always looking for a way to compete and always finds it.
Bottom 5
Allstar- Never does anything with his team to make it top notch.
DJ- see Allstar
Jah- see above 2
Donatello- The guy actually said he would rather keep Renardo Sydney than trade him for a better player because he would rather have a new GM keep Sydney than him remain in the league. He seems to be in the clear for the time being after he got Prince and Baron for a pile of dog shit from Galo, but I mean what kind of attitude is that?
Me- I traded Rose for Arenas without a real plan of action and waited a bunch of sims to trade him and still didn't end up with a great deal.
Who is the most overrated GM in the league?
Maniac- He loves the shit out of his team and is so happy with his core, but he has yet to do anything. He sucks DeJuan Blair like he is getting paid for it. We get it, he's good. If he wasn't from Pittsburgh he might as well be an afterthought. John Wall is good, won't be elite. DeRozan is great but like I said, do something already. The kid constantly talks about Pittsburgh like it's some sort of utopia. Once again, we get it, it's nice. We don't need hourly updates. And Jeff Reed being the best kicker? Be serious. Ok, this was more of a Pittsburgh rant than an overrated GM answer, so what? He is going to be mad at me. It's okay, we talk too much anyway. The only reason I am writing this is because we had this argument online while I was in class today. Good times.
Will Spence sim during his honeymoon?
If he has internet connection, there will be at least one sim. Seriously though, don't sim. Enjoy yourself.
