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Post by Apollo on Nov 5, 2008 0:02:57 GMT -5
Republicans shouldn't be worried Obama is president.... They should be worried that Nancy Pelosi now is one of the most powerful people in America because the Dems control the Senate and the House. Pelosi is a fucking tool. This is a good point.
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Post by Apollo on Nov 5, 2008 0:04:04 GMT -5
Republicans shouldn't be worried Obama is president.... They should be worried that Nancy Pelosi now is one of the most powerful people in America because the Dems control the Senate and the House. well hopefully with all the Dems riding Obama's coattails in these elections, he'll have more say in things. MY PRESIDENT IS BLACK And white.
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Post by AllStar0608 on Nov 5, 2008 0:30:23 GMT -5
My president is black, my Lambo's blue
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Post by AllStar0608 on Nov 5, 2008 0:33:40 GMT -5
Damn what is Immortal Technique going to rap about
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Post by AllStar0608 on Nov 5, 2008 0:34:28 GMT -5
he's gonna have to start rapping about his hoes and cash
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Nov 5, 2008 0:38:20 GMT -5
My president is black, my Lambo's blue and i been god damned if my rims aint too
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Nov 5, 2008 0:40:30 GMT -5
Will Smith '12
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Nov 5, 2008 0:41:01 GMT -5
brian peppers '12
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Post by AllStar0608 on Nov 5, 2008 0:41:42 GMT -5
will smith needs to go crawl in a hole and never come out
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Nov 5, 2008 0:42:56 GMT -5
will smith needs to go crawl in a hole and never come out HAHHAHAHHAHA LOLZ GTFO
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Post by AllStar0608 on Nov 5, 2008 1:20:29 GMT -5
woll smoth
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Post by xfactor on Nov 5, 2008 9:08:00 GMT -5
Never said you were… and I love how you assume that I think that too. I’m neither Republican nor Democrat, I’m pro whatever is good for this country. Yes, Regan didn’t do anything significant with the economy but statistically the economy got much worse under Bush Sr, look it up, especially towards the latter years of his term(sound oddly familiar?)
This isn’t the 1990’s… times are different. If we focused primarily domestically in terms of the economy, we are doomed for failure. Just look at things in a smaller perspective, it is no longer called Business really now it’s International Business and International Economics. That is why I like Obama’s plan because he realizes that the US isn’t the superpower that it used to be that “can take care of itself.” He realizes that we need help from others to still remain a “superpower” and by stimulating the foreign markets that can only improve our own as well. The economy could have been in much much worse shape hadn’t we had that incredible surplus of tourists coming in and buying anything 4-5 months ago. Bush and Cheaney and for the most part Republicans do not want to admit it… but yes the United States is no longer the dominant country in this world. We need help.
Well, don’t Republicans have much different philosophies than Democrats? So shouldn’t Dems think that we need to vote a Dem into office to fix things that a Rep messed up? What’s wrong with that. Again, Obama realizes the potential in international markets and a lot of people sure will be surprised.
Ohhhh scarryyyy…
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Post by Gossip Girl on Nov 5, 2008 13:43:23 GMT -5
WOOOOO
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Post by GMGreggor on Nov 5, 2008 17:03:20 GMT -5
I'm inclined to agree with Ashes on this with a few differences.
Reagan did'nt fuck up the economy. Might want to take a look at the interest rates and unemployment,inflation etc under Carter there first. Reagan pulled us out of it,I'm not sure how sound some of his economic principles are for the long haul but at that period in time it worked. Plus we had the USSR as a very real global threat at that time and he broke them. I know that was before most of you guys time but the USSR was basically Iran or Iraq under Saddam except with the firepower to back it up.
marty, Clinton benefitted a lot economically by just being the sitting President during the biggest technological boom in history. Computers,the internet which enabled much more worldwide trading and business etc. We were heading into a recession before Bill's term ended though. The Enron scandal and all that crap was under Clinton. Not to mention our intelligence took a beating under him. If our intel would'nt have been gutted we may never have invaded Iraq. He did make govt. cuts but a large amount was our intel agencies.
Anyway, I'm not so much repupblican as I'm anti democrat mainly because of their sorry ass behavior in the Senate and House and liberal judges making laws from the bench. The President has final say by and large but congress passes legislation and the judicial branch's respensibility isnt to make laws.
I'd love a 3rd party to gain a stronghold, but neither of the other sorry parties will ever let that happen I dont think.
Anyway, Barak on his own I dont think can do much damage,but if the Dems would have gotten a fillibuster proof majority I think this country would have been in trouble,and we still may be with the majority they have as is. I just hope Obama's judgement in advisors is better than the Ayers,Wright,Resco's etc.
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Post by GMGreggor on Nov 5, 2008 17:19:39 GMT -5
Also, just to add this thought. I shed no tears for the republicans. I'm basically a fiscal conservative with moderate to liberal even social views.
For a party that is supposed to be fiscally responsible they out spent even the democrats when they had the majority, Bush spent like a drunken sailor and so did the congress.
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Post by GMGreggor on Nov 5, 2008 17:28:57 GMT -5
Oh, and congrats to Obama, I think it was overdue,I just wish it would have been a more conservative black candidate.
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Post by Gossip Girl on Nov 5, 2008 18:03:27 GMT -5
Greg's a good guy.
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Post by Ducky on Nov 5, 2008 20:20:27 GMT -5
fucking Gordon is losing now for Oregon senate.
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Post by Sheryl Yoast on Nov 5, 2008 20:29:46 GMT -5
Missed this thread as I was rushed to the hospital last night (slept from 2 AM to 8 PM today). I have nothing to say. Not really in a mood to talk.
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Post by DB on Nov 5, 2008 21:03:49 GMT -5
Missed this thread as I was rushed to the hospital last night (slept from 2 AM to 8 PM today). I have nothing to say. Not really in a mood to talk. are you alright?
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Post by cjmjones008 on Nov 5, 2008 22:51:05 GMT -5
Missed this thread as I was rushed to the hospital last night (slept from 2 AM to 8 PM today). I have nothing to say. Not really in a mood to talk. are you alright?
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Post by Apollo on Nov 5, 2008 23:35:02 GMT -5
I'm inclined to agree with Ashes on this with a few differences. Reagan did'nt fuck up the economy. Might want to take a look at the interest rates and unemployment,inflation etc under Carter there first. Reagan pulled us out of it,I'm not sure how sound some of his economic principles are for the long haul but at that period in time it worked. Plus we had the USSR as a very real global threat at that time and he broke them. I know that was before most of you guys time but the USSR was basically Iran or Iraq under Saddam except with the firepower to back it up. marty, Clinton benefitted a lot economically by just being the sitting President during the biggest technological boom in history. Computers,the internet which enabled much more worldwide trading and business etc. We were heading into a recession before Bill's term ended though. The Enron scandal and all that crap was under Clinton. Not to mention our intelligence took a beating under him. If our intel would'nt have been gutted we may never have invaded Iraq. He did make govt. cuts but a large amount was our intel agencies. Anyway, I'm not so much repupblican as I'm anti democrat mainly because of their sorry ass behavior in the Senate and House and liberal judges making laws from the bench. The President has final say by and large but congress passes legislation and the judicial branch's respensibility isnt to make laws. I'd love a 3rd party to gain a stronghold, but neither of the other sorry parties will ever let that happen I dont think. Anyway, Barak on his own I dont think can do much damage,but if the Dems would have gotten a fillibuster proof majority I think this country would have been in trouble,and we still may be with the majority they have as is. I just hope Obama's judgement in advisors is better than the Ayers,Wright,Resco's etc. You're right, Reagan didn't fuck up the economy...in his time. You're right. He did a quick-fix to Carter's terrible, terrible job during his presidency. The lasting impact on some of Reagan's policies, though, did lead to an economic decline, which Bush Sr. inherited. (chris, this is why it "got worse" under Bush Sr. By your mentality, I can say the economy has gotten increasingly worse the last two years, where Democrats control Congress, the check writers of our Nation. Don't double standard this.) If people were generally better, some of Reagan's policies may have worked. In theory, cutting taxes for a business owner should allow said business owner to increase pay/give more benefits/give more bonuses, but due to human nature, it's only a matter of time before this idea failed. Just like communism failed in practice. Chris, foreign aid is a great thing, but to implement the scale that Obama (Not all him really, Biden too) wants to implement is NOT a great thing. It's simply too much. How does stimulating other countries markets help us right now, when we really need it? I think the figure is somewhere around $800 Billion or so. I'm all for foreign aid, but that is far, far too much. Especially in a time where we NEED to focus domestically. And how are you not worried about one party controlling the House, Senate, and being President? Do you have that much faith in Democrats? I know I don't have that much faith in either of the parties, as much as people want to blame Republicans for all of this, I say yeah blame them, but what about the Democrats? What did they do the last two years? Thank heavens they didn't get the filibuster-proof majority. I wish Obama the best and I hope he is a great president, because we need him to be, but like I said on the UOSL boards, I'm not going to hop on his dick until he actually does something.
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Nov 5, 2008 23:40:32 GMT -5
I bet he has a big dick
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Post by Apollo on Nov 5, 2008 23:46:32 GMT -5
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Post by Apollo on Nov 5, 2008 23:46:57 GMT -5
I thought it was Biden with the huge penis.
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