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Post by xfactor on Nov 21, 2008 12:33:35 GMT -5
Crawford to Warriors for Al Harrington
lmao
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Post by JBJB2FK on Nov 21, 2008 12:35:49 GMT -5
Bellinni might be in it
is it official?
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Post by xfactor on Nov 21, 2008 12:36:26 GMT -5
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Post by xfactor on Nov 21, 2008 12:39:01 GMT -5
Although this is what hoopshype.com has.
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Post by GP on Nov 21, 2008 12:44:23 GMT -5
Good deal for GS, not sure why NY does this.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Nov 21, 2008 12:45:08 GMT -5
The Knicks need some rebounding but damn, Crawford was playing really well in the D'Antoni system. Hopefully it's Rose and not Crawford. I'm not a Knicks fan but I wouldn't like to see this happen.
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Post by xfactor on Nov 21, 2008 12:45:53 GMT -5
there's no way Rose would go straight up for Al Harrington....
and this deal is official.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Nov 21, 2008 12:50:01 GMT -5
Harrington is unhappy in G-State... the Warriors have no bargaining power in the deal. Maybe another young player would have to be included but a Rose for Harrington type of deal could've happened...
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Post by aar on Nov 21, 2008 12:52:58 GMT -5
The Knicks trade arguably their best player for a guy who's value is at an all-time low.
Great job
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Post by xfactor on Nov 21, 2008 13:02:18 GMT -5
The Knicks trade arguably their best player for a guy who's value is at an all-time low. Great job he's at an all-time low because Warriors would never play him.. the Knicks needed a player of Harrington's type.. and while yes, losing Crawford(their leading scorer) is a bad sign... but behind D'Antonio and Walsh's master plan maybe they plan on bringing Marbury back into the mix?
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Post by Jay on Nov 21, 2008 13:20:08 GMT -5
Golden State obviously needed another chucker.
Anthony Morrow loses in all of this.
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Post by Spencer on Nov 21, 2008 13:48:36 GMT -5
Harrington cant board. Nice deal for GST.
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Post by Sheryl Yoast on Nov 21, 2008 13:50:56 GMT -5
YEA MAN JAMAL CRAWFORD WOOOOOO
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Post by xfactor on Nov 21, 2008 13:56:06 GMT -5
The Knicks are trading for Al Harrington, and really, it doesn't matter.
We can read quite a bit into it, you can let the deal worry or excite you if you're a fan of New York or just a general NBA hopeful, but it really is just something to chew on early in the season. It won't make any more of a difference in the long run than, say, the team's acquisition of Othella Harrington around this time of year back in 2000.
(I honestly came up with that comparison, and moved on to the next paragraph, before realizing they had the same last name. Promise. Still, I'm keeping it in.)
Here's why Knicks fans are hopeful: Al Harrington can score in bunches, sometimes. Not all the time. Sometimes his jumper isn't falling. Sometimes he doesn't know which move to go with on the low left block, and thinks himself out of a good shot.
Then there are times where, and I suspect we'll see a few of those over the next three weeks, the guy shoots the lights out and makes you think that he's something more than he is. That there's a hidden mini-star in there if you give the guy minutes. I used to think the same thing, and you know what? There's no mini-star, there. Check the per-minute stats.
There's just an average player (and that's no slight, really) who can score a bit who Donnie Walsh has now acquired three different times. That has to be a record of sorts. And, in a way, Walsh sort of acquired four times. He hung onto Harrington in 2003, choosing him over Brad Miller when it came time to pay the luxury tax piper, and it may have cost Indiana a ring.
And the worry, for some Knick fans, is that he'll cost David Lee minutes. Guess what? Wilson Chandler is costing David Lee minutes. David Lee's never going to get on Mike D'Antoni's good side, and his celebrated per-minute stats (honed under other coaches who pointlessly refused to play him starter-quality minutes) have even taken a dive. I don't blame the guy. Three straight highly-paid coaches who don't seem to think that 12 and 12 in 32 minutes is a good idea? Forget this.
In the end, Al's essentially a better version of Chris Duhon, in a less-defined role. He'll be around this year and the next (Knicks fans better hope; surely Donnie won't extend this guy and ruin that 2010 cap space ... right?), and take off in the summer of 2010.
What does this mean for the Warriors? It means Nellie still has his guys, and he wasn't wrong about Harrington's horrible rebounding, but let's be honest. If Al could shoot the lights out, it wouldn't matter that he was picking up three rebounds in 40 minutes, and Don Nelson would play him. Al's not a pure scorer, though. He's an OK scorer who deserves minutes as a sixth or seventh man on an OK team, and that's not enough for Nellie.
So rock on, Knicks fans. It's fun to get a little part for just an expiring contract, and Harrington will have some good games for you this year. It's just that, in the long run, it really doesn't matter which Harrington you bring in.
That reference I meant.
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Post by Spencer on Nov 21, 2008 13:58:27 GMT -5
YEA MAN JAMAL CRAWFORD WOOOOOO Azubuike is injured, not sure for how long but that should clear minutes for Crawford for the time being. Morrow has been sick, so I dont expect him to lose much time. Im guessing it will allow Nellie to rest Jackson and Maggette a little more. Warriors have quite a deep backcourt when Ellis is back, may open up some more trading possibilities. I had grown to hate Harrington, but he could be better as a higher scoring option in NY. He was very good in IND and ATL.
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Post by Skillz on Nov 21, 2008 14:47:09 GMT -5
Crawford was my favorite player.
Class act, unbelievably inconsistent, but sick when he's on. Most Knicks fans hate him, I like him. Still, we clear cap and are going to be in full tank mode. Everywhere else i've looked, people like it for NY and not for GSW. Funny that this board is different.
Personally, it makes sense for GSW. It makes sense for new york, but i'd have preferred to keep jamal.
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Post by xfactor on Nov 21, 2008 14:48:38 GMT -5
Skillz you must live in some imaginary world... everywhere I looked hates this for the Knicks.
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Post by Spencer on Nov 21, 2008 14:53:56 GMT -5
Obviously this is a good deal for GST. Crawford is someone I think that could be better under Nelson. He also brings another shooter which fits in well with our style. He will have to pass well to play alot though since we are deep small. Belinelli has been backing up Morrow, so now I see Crawford backing him up.
C-Biedrins-Turiaf PF-Maggette-Wright SF-Azubuike-Crawford SG-Morrow-Crawford PG-Jackson-Watson
Then when Monta is back....
C-Biedrins-Turiaf PF-Maggette-Wright SF-Jackson-Azubuike SG-Morrow-Crawford PG-Ellis-Watson
This also protects against Morrow being a fluke.
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Post by Skillz on Nov 21, 2008 14:57:53 GMT -5
Crawford will start for you, Spence.
He's not going to get any better under Nelson than he was under d'antoni/isiah. With isiah, jamal had the ball in his hands 24/7 and could do whatever he wanted. Under 'antoni, he is doing what he will do with Nelly.
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Post by Skillz on Nov 21, 2008 14:58:12 GMT -5
He will drive you crazy at times, but sometimes he's just awesome
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Post by Spencer on Nov 21, 2008 15:00:14 GMT -5
Crawford will start for you, Spence. He's not going to get any better under Nelson than he was under d'antoni/isiah. With isiah, jamal had the ball in his hands 24/7 and could do whatever he wanted. Under 'antoni, he is doing what he will do with Nelly. I cant see him starting unless its because of injury or because Morrow falls on his face. I love Morrow though. Warriors need bench scoring, I think Jamal could be that.
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Post by Gossip Girl on Nov 21, 2008 15:00:32 GMT -5
Awful for the Knickerbockers.
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Post by Spencer on Nov 21, 2008 15:01:23 GMT -5
Harrington sucks. I mean he has just been horrible most of the time. He cant defend or board. He plays best at PF because he can beat bigger players on offense, but he gets killed on the defensive end, cant board and makes bonehead plays.
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Post by Skillz on Nov 21, 2008 15:01:31 GMT -5
Randolph too now?
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Post by Spencer on Nov 21, 2008 15:02:17 GMT -5
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