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Post by AllStar0608 on Dec 16, 2008 17:24:57 GMT -5
oscar and wilt are superstars we dont hear about? if we go retro Dr J = Spur LOL, can you read? i was trying to be a badass like the nets
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Post by AllStar0608 on Dec 16, 2008 17:25:28 GMT -5
lets try to be a fucking smart ass when im actually holding a legit discussion over it. I wasn't at all talking to you. Aar got mad at me suggesting it'd be fun to have guys like Jesus Shuttlesworth in the league if we were going to go retro long-term. well it kind of bashes anyone who questions retro and likes fake players.
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Post by Spencer on Dec 16, 2008 17:25:30 GMT -5
Um, re read all my posts I guess. I guess the biggest thing is nothing in FBB is predictable, so how can retro be predictable? No one is 'right' or 'wrong'. You can go about it that way though, I guess I was being sarcastic because Im sick of hearing the same argument from like 5 people when it makes absolutely no sense to me.
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Post by Spencer on Dec 16, 2008 17:25:53 GMT -5
i was trying to be a badass like the nets At least Mark can read.
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Post by noves on Dec 16, 2008 17:25:56 GMT -5
It's fine to enjoy retro and dislike fake players, but this is the type of post that could piss people off. Running a league with fake players is just as fun as running it with real players, at least for a lot of GM's, no reason to mock it. Honestly, its just as frustrating and lame to consistently hear that retro is boring and predictable when BBS did it well a couple years ago. I would venture to say was much worse at making draft files then and it still worked fine. Many, if not most of us weren't here then, though. We have no idea how it worked. I'm basing this off of my previous retro experiences, as is everyone else.
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Post by Spencer on Dec 16, 2008 17:26:17 GMT -5
I wasn't at all talking to you. Aar got mad at me suggesting it'd be fun to have guys like Jesus Shuttlesworth in the league if we were going to go retro long-term. well it kind of bashes anyone who questions retro and likes fake players. I have felt as though the anti-retro side has been bashing the retro side.
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Post by GP on Dec 16, 2008 17:26:21 GMT -5
go fake for awhile... then go retro... This sounds like the best way to satisfy everyone.
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Post by Rocky on Dec 16, 2008 17:26:22 GMT -5
It's fine to enjoy retro and dislike fake players, but this is the type of post that could piss people off. Running a league with fake players is just as fun as running it with real players, at least for a lot of GM's, no reason to mock it. Honestly, its just as frustrating and lame to consistently hear that retro is boring and predictable when BBS did it well a couple years ago. I would venture to say was much worse at making draft files then and it still worked fine. 100% agreed.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Dec 16, 2008 17:26:22 GMT -5
My argument was about more than just predictability, you just chose to pick out that part.
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Post by AllStar0608 on Dec 16, 2008 17:26:38 GMT -5
i was trying to be a badass like the nets At least Mark can read. i could read and i knew what u meant.
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Post by Spencer on Dec 16, 2008 17:26:47 GMT -5
Honestly, its just as frustrating and lame to consistently hear that retro is boring and predictable when BBS did it well a couple years ago. I would venture to say was much worse at making draft files then and it still worked fine. Many, if not most of us weren't here then, though. We have no idea how it worked. I'm basing this off of my previous retro experiences, as is everyone else. Like I said before, what league was that in? It wasnt a league of this quality.
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Post by AllStar0608 on Dec 16, 2008 17:26:58 GMT -5
No one is 'right' or 'wrong'. You can go about it that way though, I guess I was being sarcastic because Im sick of hearing the same argument from like 5 people when it makes absolutely no sense to me. that isnt my argument if you are reading my posts.
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Post by Rocky on Dec 16, 2008 17:27:07 GMT -5
I wasn't at all talking to you. Aar got mad at me suggesting it'd be fun to have guys like Jesus Shuttlesworth in the league if we were going to go retro long-term. well it kind of bashes anyone who questions retro and likes fake players. Well no it kind of doesn't because I was referencing something that had nothing to do with you.
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Post by Spencer on Dec 16, 2008 17:27:27 GMT -5
At least Mark can read. i could read and i knew what u meant. K. Kiss.
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Post by Rocky on Dec 16, 2008 17:27:44 GMT -5
well it kind of bashes anyone who questions retro and likes fake players. I have felt as though the anti-retro side has been bashing the retro side. +1
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Post by noves on Dec 16, 2008 17:27:56 GMT -5
well it kind of bashes anyone who questions retro and likes fake players. I have felt as though the anti-retro side has been bashing the retro side. All-star aside, who has bashed the retro side? I've just discussed why I dislike retro.
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Post by Rocky on Dec 16, 2008 17:28:04 GMT -5
i was trying to be a badass like the nets Haha jesus allstar, shut the fuck up.
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Post by Spencer on Dec 16, 2008 17:28:05 GMT -5
I was being sarcastic because Im sick of hearing the same argument from like 5 people when it makes absolutely no sense to me. that isnt my argument if you are reading my posts. It is essentially the same argument. Predictable, not original, not unique.
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Post by AllStar0608 on Dec 16, 2008 17:28:09 GMT -5
well it kind of bashes anyone who questions retro and likes fake players. I have felt as though the anti-retro side has been bashing the retro side. meh. i think we are explaining why retro is not a wanted option while the other is just saying fake is stupid. my beef with retro is the lack of uniqueness but if u go into the 60s and 70s and pull out guys who werent just the cream of the crop then im far more interested.
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Post by Spencer on Dec 16, 2008 17:29:02 GMT -5
I have felt as though the anti-retro side has been bashing the retro side. All-star aside, who has bashed the retro side? I've just discussed why I dislike retro. While you may have not intended to bash those in favor of retro, I can see how your comments have come across as bashing. Intentions and actual actions dont always line up.
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Post by Spencer on Dec 16, 2008 17:29:50 GMT -5
I have felt as though the anti-retro side has been bashing the retro side. meh. i think we are explaining why retro is not a wanted option while the other is just saying fake is stupid. my beef with retro is the lack of uniqueness but if u go into the 60s and 70s and pull out guys who werent just the cream of the crop then im far more interested. I think a lack of caring would eventually arise with fake players. Plus the fact that getting new Gms would be virtually impossible, IE the NBN.
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Post by AllStar0608 on Dec 16, 2008 17:30:08 GMT -5
that isnt my argument if you are reading my posts. It is essentially the same argument. Predictable, not original, not unique. i dont mean predictable by outcome of the players. i just mean we will lack guys like karron thomas and stuff like that. and we wont have cool background stories and shit like that to go from. the creating of players (which i havent even done) for the draft file has really peaked my interest in this league as there is a lot more to read and some of the guys in this league are talented writers and have creative minds and it entertains me.
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Post by noves on Dec 16, 2008 17:30:21 GMT -5
All-star aside, who has bashed the retro side? I've just discussed why I dislike retro. While you may have not intended to bash those in favor of retro, I can see how your comments have come across as bashing. Intentions and actual actions dont always line up. Who have I bashed? Tell me.
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Post by AllStar0608 on Dec 16, 2008 17:30:38 GMT -5
i was trying to be a badass like the nets Haha jesus allstar, shut the fuck up. that was posted when i thought u were attacking me.
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Post by Spencer on Dec 16, 2008 17:30:45 GMT -5
It is essentially the same argument. Predictable, not original, not unique. i dont mean predictable by outcome of the players. i just mean we will lack guys like karron thomas and stuff like that. and we wont have cool background stories and shit like that to go from. the creating of players (which i havent even done) for the draft file has really peaked my interest in this league as there is a lot more to read and some of the guys in this league are talented writers and have creative minds and it entertains me. I disagree. Tom Tolbert(with the ratings I gave above) is just as interesting as Karron Thomas.
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