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Post by Funky George! on Jan 4, 2009 14:48:39 GMT -5
Atlanta played much more difficult schedule than Minnesota (NFC South>>>>NFC North) Ryan's a better QB than Frerotte/Jackson but the Vikings offensive line and defense as a whole is better than Falcon's Adrian Peterson is a better running back than Michael Turner but I feel like Turner did more for his team, especially by keeping a weak defense off the field. I'd have a hard time giving the MVP to a guy who fumbled as often as Peterson did as well the vikings had a tougher schedule than the falcons.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jan 4, 2009 14:51:08 GMT -5
The Vikings played a much tougher non-conference schedule, while the Falcons played a much tougher division schedule (teams they play twice a year)
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Post by Funky George! on Jan 4, 2009 14:51:42 GMT -5
The Vikings played a much tougher non-conference schedule, while the Falcons played a much tougher division schedule (teams they play twice a year) thanks for clarifying what a division schedule is, asshole
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Post by Funky George! on Jan 4, 2009 14:51:57 GMT -5
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jan 4, 2009 14:53:31 GMT -5
I wasn't trying to educate you, dick
im just saying that the Falcons played 6 games against really tough teams... on the other hand, the NFC North was absolutely horrific.
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Post by Funky George! on Jan 4, 2009 14:54:10 GMT -5
UGH fuck
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Post by DB on Jan 4, 2009 14:54:51 GMT -5
I meant drew brees not leading his team to the playoffs and they had a horrible record. Yeah a lot of that was not due to him but how can he be the most valuable player when his team did so bad. It is more than just your own performance, your team has to actually be doing good. Peyton stepped up big and turned the colts season around. I think other guys could of got the award but he proved how valuable he is in that stretch. How many qbs can turn a season around and do what he did. Michael Turner deserves it more than AP if you are going to say AP should get it. i don't think there's a comparison. turner's numbers are what they are because he dominated the rams and lions. that's not a weak argument, it's to say that he beat up on shitty defenses and that's got to go against you in measuring your value against a guy who still had more ypc. turner played in much better offense with a really great qb. AP went up against det twice and did not even come close to what MT did. Turner dominate carolina, chargers, bucs. I would definitely give it to MT over AP, his fumbles killed him.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jan 4, 2009 14:54:59 GMT -5
i love this
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jan 4, 2009 14:55:16 GMT -5
i don't think there's a comparison. turner's numbers are what they are because he dominated the rams and lions. that's not a weak argument, it's to say that he beat up on shitty defenses and that's got to go against you in measuring your value against a guy who still had more ypc. turner played in much better offense with a really great qb. AP went up against det twice and did not even come close to what MT did. Turner dominate carolina, chargers, bucs. I would definitely give it to MT over AP, his fumbles killed him. yeeee
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jan 4, 2009 14:56:35 GMT -5
best game of the year.
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Post by Funky George! on Jan 4, 2009 14:58:32 GMT -5
AP went up against det twice and did not even come close to what MT did. Turner dominate carolina, chargers, bucs. I would definitely give it to MT over AP, his fumbles killed him. yeeee turner had great games against tb and carolina, and he also had horrendous games against them. if he didnt rack up 400 yds againt det and stl in two games, we don't have this conversation. his numbers against playoff teams are well below his numbers vs other teams.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jan 4, 2009 14:59:23 GMT -5
dont quote me again
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Post by DB on Jan 4, 2009 15:00:14 GMT -5
AP had 4 fumbles vs det, 2 in both games! SHOVE IT!
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Post by Funky George! on Jan 4, 2009 15:00:58 GMT -5
awful game
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Post by Funky George! on Jan 4, 2009 15:01:23 GMT -5
the only good thing about this game is that it's probably pissing dave off.
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Post by Funky George! on Jan 4, 2009 15:01:34 GMT -5
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Jan 4, 2009 15:08:15 GMT -5
haha ed reed
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Post by Jay on Jan 4, 2009 15:13:13 GMT -5
Why is there a pest following my posts like I care?
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Post by Johnny "B. Good" Stamos on Jan 4, 2009 15:30:59 GMT -5
bro what does your ex look like! she hot? Big tatas? PICTURE
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Post by DB on Jan 4, 2009 16:10:13 GMT -5
haha
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Post by aar on Jan 4, 2009 16:11:27 GMT -5
Sick game by the Ravens
Ed Reed is awesome and so is Suggs
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Post by Gossip Girl on Jan 4, 2009 16:31:04 GMT -5
Only 20 hours left.
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Post by Derwin on Jan 4, 2009 16:32:46 GMT -5
Joe Buck!
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Post by Derwin on Jan 4, 2009 16:33:14 GMT -5
Troy Aikman!
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Post by Gossip Girl on Jan 4, 2009 16:33:29 GMT -5
I liked his dad better.
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