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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jan 12, 2009 13:50:47 GMT -5
I want Dawkins and Sphroles. No way the Chargers let Sproles go with LT's production being way down and making the mistake of letting Michael Turner go. It wasn't a mistake, no way they were going to give that much money to what would be their backup running back.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jan 12, 2009 13:54:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't be that excited about Bart Scott. Anyone remember Ed Hartwell? Hartwell left to go to a team with a different defensive scheme. Assuming Ryan goes to the Jets and Scott follows him, that wouldn't be the case.
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Post by easy on Jan 12, 2009 13:55:22 GMT -5
No way the Chargers let Sproles go with LT's production being way down and making the mistake of letting Michael Turner go. It wasn't a mistake, no way they were going to give that much money to what would be their backup running back. What are you talking about? The Chargers had enough money to re-sign Turner. LT was 29, had already been hurting and many people expected his production to be down from last season which it was. You mean to tell me the Chargers couldn't have offered a long-term contract to Turner that didn't take to much of a hit to their cap for the first year or two of the contract? I'm also fairly certain Michael Turner would have become the lead back by Week 5.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jan 12, 2009 14:02:44 GMT -5
Unless they are/were plan on letting LT go, there's absolutely no way that they'd want to have that much money tied up into the RB position. In that case they could have backloaded the contract, but even with decline in production, I just don't see the Chargers cutting or trading LT for the next 3-4 years...
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Post by easy on Jan 12, 2009 14:04:01 GMT -5
Unless they are/were plan on letting LT go, there's absolutely no way that they'd want to have that much money tied up into the RB position. In that case they could have backloaded the contract, but even with decline in production, I just don't see the Chargers cutting or trading LT for the next 3-4 years... so you think they're going to let Sproles sign somewhere else? Really? lol
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jan 12, 2009 14:06:45 GMT -5
... did I say that? I don't see Sproles getting quite as much as Turner got. Not to mention that he's less expendable than Turner because the Chargers don't have a solid #3 behind him.
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Post by easy on Jan 12, 2009 14:08:18 GMT -5
... did I say that? I don't see Sproles getting quite as much as Turner got. Not to mention that he's less expendable than Turner because the Chargers don't have a solid #3 behind him. Sproles CAN get similar Michael Turner money elsewhere as many people believe San Diego will need to shell out to re-sign him and at this point trading LT or even asking him to take a pay cut is not unthinkable anymore.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jan 12, 2009 14:10:10 GMT -5
we'll see. maybe they'll ask LT to take a paycut, but I'd be shocked if he was on another team next season.
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Post by Jay on Jan 12, 2009 15:42:48 GMT -5
It's looking like Jim Schwartz is in the early lead to be the next coach of the Lions (2 interviews). I've liked what I've read about him about his statistical analysis of the game, and what he's done with Tennessee's defense.
Plus I love his comment from his press conference today: When asked about Detroit's situation at quarterback in general, Schwartz said, "It's probably time to find a replacement for Bobby Layne.''
Bobby Layne was the QB who lead the Lions to 3 League Championships. His last season in Detroit was 1957. He was the last good QB in the franchises history.
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Post by jahallstar on Jan 12, 2009 15:52:18 GMT -5
I would be shocked if Sproles got the $15 mil signing bonus that Turner got. I could see 8-10 mil. 5 years 22 mil.
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Post by easy on Jan 12, 2009 15:57:48 GMT -5
He won't get $15 mill guaranteed, yeah, but $10 mill is a lock... 5 years is unlikely too 3 max.
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Post by Spencer on Jan 12, 2009 16:08:41 GMT -5
It's looking like Jim Schwartz is in the early lead to be the next coach of the Lions (2 interviews). I've liked what I've read about him about his statistical analysis of the game, and what he's done with Tennessee's defense. Plus I love his comment from his press conference today: When asked about Detroit's situation at quarterback in general, Schwartz said, "It's probably time to find a replacement for Bobby Layne.''Bobby Layne was the QB who lead the Lions to 3 League Championships. His last season in Detroit was 1957. He was the last good QB in the franchises history. Andre Ware!
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jan 12, 2009 16:24:39 GMT -5
Mike McMahon
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Post by Spencer on Jan 12, 2009 16:28:49 GMT -5
Rodney Peete!
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Post by Speed Racer on Jan 12, 2009 17:35:27 GMT -5
Sproles is going to get overpaid by some team. He's a great multi-purpose player, but he is certainly not an every down back. He just doesn't have the size or power to be on the field in a lot of situations.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Jan 12, 2009 18:46:08 GMT -5
I wouldn't be that excited about Bart Scott. Anyone remember Ed Hartwell? Hartwell left to go to a team with a different defensive scheme. Assuming Ryan goes to the Jets and Scott follows him, that wouldn't be the case. Then why was Hartwell not brought back? Scott is definitely a better player than Hartwell was. Having Reed, Lewis, Suggs, Ngata, and other beside him help him out a lot though. I don't see him being as productive anywhere else.
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Post by Phoenix Phil on Jan 12, 2009 19:07:19 GMT -5
I doubt Baltimore could afford to keep Hartwell for the amount Atlanta offered. They identified they had players on their team that could replace him adequately... the Ravens have drafted defense better than almost any team in the league.
Yeah Lewis/Ngata/Suggs and the rest of those guys are very talented, but I don't see how Scott wouldn't be productive in a scheme that he's very comfortable with, even if it's on a different team. You're acting like he'd have to adjust to a completely different system.
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Post by cjmjones008 on Jan 12, 2009 19:38:30 GMT -5
I meant why did they not bring back Hartwell now. He would be good but he would be keyed on a lot more when he rarely if ever is now
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