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Post by duceisinmyheart on Feb 6, 2008 13:45:04 GMT -5
no one likes your idea.
case closed.
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Post by noves on Feb 6, 2008 16:14:56 GMT -5
If Spence wants me to change my DC, I will. Frankly, my team blows ass either way, so it doesn't really matter.
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Post by Dave on Feb 6, 2008 16:27:22 GMT -5
If Spence wants me to change my DC, I will. Frankly, my team blows ass either way, so it doesn't really matter. Well to start off obviously Bobby Simmons shoots the ball better and handles the ball better than Moon. If I were you i'd want to give him more time on just a pure development standpoint. Oh yea he is also a better defender. Also Ken Johnson is clearly better than Antonis Fotsis. He is a better inside scorer and rebounder why would you not play him at C and move bender to PF to give him some more looks on the perimeter instead of burying him at C? These are just the two obvious moves to make your team slightly better but if you are trying to lose obviously your DC is the best possible. Also running Very fast with a shitty PG and poor option scorers? Come on, man up. |
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Post by Spencer on Feb 6, 2008 17:25:06 GMT -5
I dont like messing with peoples DCs. If a team is bad, like Novas, it doesnt really matter who he plays.
Dave, you have a very strong opinion about who should play, and who shouldnt play, but I feel as though you cant enforce how youd do it on everyone.
The tanking rule is the contract year. If you want to tank, tank. If you cant win, then you get fired.
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Post by Outlawz on Feb 6, 2008 19:09:22 GMT -5
It's just too much work krup. Whose going to keep up with that. Teams right now really suck do you really think changes would make a difference? If it was someone like toronto then ok. But i have a defensive big and 2nd round big as my best scorers. I mean what could a team like mine really do dc wise. Let's be real your bringing this up now because your part of the tanking group. This wouldnt of came up if you were winning. Be honest. Excuse you? Ive had plenty of 1-3 sims that have been followed by DC changes... if i was purposely tanking I would have just left the DC alone after a terrible sim... as you would know. The douche is right, there are a number of Gm's who are happy that they are losing at a high rate and because of that, they won't make changes to their DC's for fear of actually winning a few more games. There are some very bad teams out there that will lose a lot no matter what... but GM's could still be trying to find the DC that wins the most. But they don't, because they want to lose as much as possible to get the best lotto pick... it's done on purpose, not by accident. Spin it anyway you want, but that is what's up. Calm down buddy i meant if it was a team with as much talent as yours not making changes then it would be something to think about. I merely used your team as reference.  |
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Post by James on Feb 6, 2008 19:22:10 GMT -5
no one likes your idea. case closed. |
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Post by Tigertecz on Feb 6, 2008 19:51:59 GMT -5
I dont like messing with peoples DCs. If a team is bad, like Novas, it doesnt really matter who he plays. Dave, you have a very strong opinion about who should play, and who shouldnt play, but I feel as though you cant enforce how youd do it on everyone. The tanking rule is the contract year. If you want to tank, tank. If you cant win, then you get fired. I'm sure you don't like messing with people's DC's, but if there is a very obvious move to tank then you should change it IMO, then just let the GM know. |
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Post by Spencer on Feb 6, 2008 19:54:16 GMT -5
I dont like messing with peoples DCs. If a team is bad, like Novas, it doesnt really matter who he plays. Dave, you have a very strong opinion about who should play, and who shouldnt play, but I feel as though you cant enforce how youd do it on everyone. The tanking rule is the contract year. If you want to tank, tank. If you cant win, then you get fired. I'm sure you don't like messing with people's DC's, but if there is a very obvious move to tank then you should change it IMO, then just let the GM know. Ill step in if a team is playing obviously worse players, thats what a commish should do. I dont want to even think about nitpicking on whether a team should start a C+ C C B C SF or a C+ C+ C C+ C SF. If its blatant, Ill step in, otherwise well just go with the Contract year. |
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Post by Tigertecz on Feb 6, 2008 19:56:51 GMT -5
I'm sure you don't like messing with people's DC's, but if there is a very obvious move to tank then you should change it IMO, then just let the GM know. Ill step in if a team is playing obviously worse players, thats what a commish should do. I dont want to even think about nitpicking on whether a team should start a C+ C C B C SF or a C+ C+ C C+ C SF. If its blatant, Ill step in, otherwise well just go with the Contract year. Fair enough really. |
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Post by Spencer on Feb 6, 2008 19:58:11 GMT -5
There is a fine line between nice added features to a sim league and overkill. If things get too complex people lose interest.
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Post by Tigertecz on Feb 6, 2008 20:01:02 GMT -5
I agree, but when people tank while others are trying their best to win, even with a lack of talent doesn't sit right. I'm glad the contract year rule is in the league though. It'll get more interesting in a couple of seasons time.
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Post by Spencer on Feb 6, 2008 20:03:10 GMT -5
I agree, but when people tank while others are trying their best to win, even with a lack of talent doesn't sit right. I'm glad the contract year rule is in the league though. It'll get more interesting in a couple of seasons time. Tanking happens in every league. I dont think any losing team is so talented they should be much better. Maybe 5-8 wins more over the season, but nothing that would bring a team from lotto to elite. In BBS you have to win after you lose for a couple seasons, and IMO that really takes care of any tanking that goes on. If you tank, you better damn well be able to put a good team together quickly, because if you don't, youre on the Wait List. |
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Post by Tigertecz on Feb 6, 2008 20:04:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I know. We'll see I guess.
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Feb 6, 2008 20:06:07 GMT -5
like every rule, the contract year does have it's flaws, but for the most part when properly enforced, it works.
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Post by Dave on Feb 7, 2008 4:40:23 GMT -5
I'm sure you don't like messing with people's DC's, but if there is a very obvious move to tank then you should change it IMO, then just let the GM know. Ill step in if a team is playing obviously worse players, thats what a commish should do. I dont want to even think about nitpicking on whether a team should start a C+ C C B C SF or a C+ C+ C C+ C SF. If its blatant, Ill step in, otherwise well just go with the Contract year. I really wasn't trying to point out individuals here but Nova brought himself up. I mean if a team loses 19 straight you don't think they switch up their DC a bit? I mean come on this is my point teams should be forced to try new things if they continue to lose. Maybe a minimum amount of DC changes or something or if you are 2-8 or worse in your last 10 you have to switch up your DC |
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Post by duceisinmyheart on Feb 7, 2008 7:16:08 GMT -5
time to move on with this idea.
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Post by Tigertecz on Feb 7, 2008 9:26:02 GMT -5
Let it go.
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Post by Spencer on Feb 7, 2008 12:46:38 GMT -5
Dave, I understand where you are coming from, but in the long run, it doesnt matter. If teams are playing their better players, Im not gonna make them change tendencies, or change rotations. Its way too much work, and it would make the league less fun.
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