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Post by Rocky on Nov 11, 2009 9:56:28 GMT -5
damn, totally blows for martinez
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Nov 11, 2009 9:58:55 GMT -5
a second CY is a given now and the only thing I can hope for is re-signing Gilmore and hoping somehow someway I am able to sign big time FAs in my 3rd year but yeah other then that I'm fine.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Nov 11, 2009 9:59:51 GMT -5
at least tanking this year paid off, dropped out of lotto and I'm going to end up picking in the late 20s and getting some no name scrub... great season
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Nov 11, 2009 10:01:23 GMT -5
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Nov 11, 2009 10:02:19 GMT -5
Hes actually lucky he has multiple picks. I mean he loses a lotto pick, but he usually does a shitty job drafting anyway. right as was witness with Kareem Joffer, Leon Camby, Jared McGahee, Xavier Henry, Artis Gilmore and Rudy Tomjanovich.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Nov 11, 2009 10:04:10 GMT -5
yeah because I've quit before when things haven't gone my way... that makes so much sense guys! DUH!
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Post by FAIL on Nov 11, 2009 10:49:43 GMT -5
Perfect oppurtunity to pile on, but I legitimately feel bad.
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Post by Tigertecz on Nov 11, 2009 11:02:30 GMT -5
Marty, I get where you're coming from and it sucks... but regardless of who was responsible for knowing the salaries, the deadline was set to pass. Once the trade went through and the deadline sim was going to pass, that's it.
I'm not sure exactly the timing, but didn't the trade go through just before the deadline? So if Spencer "announces" the 48 hours to get under after the trade is done, the deadline was always going to pass as soon as him sims the next sim. He shouldn't have to delay the sim for 48 hours to give you the chance to get back under should he? He's just sticking to his sim schedule.
I may be wrong on the timing, because I haven't checked it all out, but if that's what I see off the top of my head.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Nov 11, 2009 11:10:18 GMT -5
Marty, I get where you're coming from and it sucks... but regardless of who was responsible for knowing the salaries, the deadline was set to pass. Once the trade went through and the deadline sim was going to pass, that's it. I'm not sure exactly the timing, but didn't the trade go through just before the deadline? So if Spencer "announces" the 48 hours to get under after the trade is done, the deadline was always going to pass as soon as him sims the next sim. He shouldn't have to delay the sim for 48 hours to give you the chance to get back under should he? He's just sticking to his sim schedule. I may be wrong on the timing, because I haven't checked it all out, but if that's what I see off the top of my head. According to End of Season Schedule the trade deadline was at 8 PM PST(I would assume) which is 11 PM EST, I am long asleep by then. Spencer is saying I knew of being over the HC after the Seattle trade. That's fine and would make sense had the Utah trade also been processed. Did I notice I was over the HC, yes I did but I was almost certain that the Utah trade would have put me at least 500k-1mill under. The Utah trade was processed AND uploaded (I would also assume) before last nights sim which like I stated earlier I am usually sleeping at around that time. I am merely 50k over. Is it my fault? Yes and no. Yes because I "should" take into account the HC with all my trades. No, because I did not take into account one trade being processed before another and me going over the HC by something as "insignicant" as 50,000. I could understand if I was a good 1 mill or 2 mill over, but 50,000 for real?
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Post by Tigertecz on Nov 11, 2009 11:19:34 GMT -5
Ya, 50k is still 50k over. If you go over HC no matter by how much and the deadline's about to pass, you're stuck with that salary for well over 48 hours.
As for the time deadlines, it's a deadline. I'm asleep for a lot of the time you guys do a lotta stuff, but you just have to deal with it. With drafts you send lists, with depth charts you try and pre-empt them. Same goes for trading I guess. Gotta pre-empt stuff.
I can sympathise with your situation here, but can't say it's the wrong choice by Spencer because he's just sticking to the rules that were laid out before. It may suck for you right now, but Spence isn't off on this ruling... If he wants to change it up now or something that's his perrogative of course.
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Post by Apollo on Nov 11, 2009 11:27:58 GMT -5
Ya, 50k is still 50k over. If you go over HC no matter by how much and the deadline's about to pass, you're stuck with that salary for well over 48 hours. As for the time deadlines, it's a deadline. I'm asleep for a lot of the time you guys do a lotta stuff, but you just have to deal with it. With drafts you send lists, with depth charts you try and pre-empt them. Same goes for trading I guess. Gotta pre-empt stuff. I can sympathise with your situation here, but can't say it's the wrong choice by Spencer because he's just sticking to the rules that were laid out before. It may suck for you right now, but Spence isn't off on this ruling... If he wants to change it up now or something that's his perrogative of course. I think you mean empathize.
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Post by Tigertecz on Nov 11, 2009 11:34:29 GMT -5
Ya, 50k is still 50k over. If you go over HC no matter by how much and the deadline's about to pass, you're stuck with that salary for well over 48 hours. As for the time deadlines, it's a deadline. I'm asleep for a lot of the time you guys do a lotta stuff, but you just have to deal with it. With drafts you send lists, with depth charts you try and pre-empt them. Same goes for trading I guess. Gotta pre-empt stuff. I can sympathise with your situation here, but can't say it's the wrong choice by Spencer because he's just sticking to the rules that were laid out before. It may suck for you right now, but Spence isn't off on this ruling... If he wants to change it up now or something that's his perrogative of course. I think you mean empathize. Meh same difference. I sympathise with/for him? I dunno how you'd say it come to think of it lol. But you get what I mean.
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Post by Tigertecz on Nov 11, 2009 11:34:49 GMT -5
When am I getting my BBSW title shot btw? SIM SIMMAH!
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Post by White Boy on Nov 11, 2009 11:35:59 GMT -5
Ya, 50k is still 50k over. If you go over HC no matter by how much and the deadline's about to pass, you're stuck with that salary for well over 48 hours. As for the time deadlines, it's a deadline. I'm asleep for a lot of the time you guys do a lotta stuff, but you just have to deal with it. With drafts you send lists, with depth charts you try and pre-empt them. Same goes for trading I guess. Gotta pre-empt stuff. I can sympathise with your situation here, but can't say it's the wrong choice by Spencer because he's just sticking to the rules that were laid out before. It may suck for you right now, but Spence isn't off on this ruling... If he wants to change it up now or something that's his perrogative of course. I think you mean empathize. I'm pretty sure he means sympathize.
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Post by Apollo on Nov 11, 2009 11:37:30 GMT -5
I think you mean empathize. Meh same difference. I sympathise with/for him? I dunno how you'd say it come to think of it lol. But you get what I mean. Well sympathy would indicate you have a strong regard or concern for martinez, which I doubt you do. Empathy would mean you can understand where he's coming from, IE "putting yourself in his shoes."
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Post by Apollo on Nov 11, 2009 11:39:05 GMT -5
I think you mean empathize. I'm pretty sure he means sympathize. Think so? I disagree. But tiger might be an all-loving kind of guy.
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Post by White Boy on Nov 11, 2009 11:41:20 GMT -5
Meh same difference. I sympathise with/for him? I dunno how you'd say it come to think of it lol. But you get what I mean. Well sympathy would indicate you have a strong regard or concern for martinez, which I doubt you do. Empathy would mean you can understand where he's coming from, IE "putting yourself in his shoes." Not quite, if sympathizes he could also be in agreement of a feeling. Which is where he was coming from I do believe. Either way sim some BBS wrestling. I want to kick Tiger's ass.
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Post by Apollo on Nov 11, 2009 11:41:47 GMT -5
Being sympathetic is actually having a growing concern for someone whereas empathetic is understanding of the person's situation. But meh, semantics I guess. Not really, but whatever.
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Post by Tigertecz on Nov 11, 2009 11:43:34 GMT -5
What if I have a growing concern for Mr Marty and also empathy for his situation? Maybe I mean both. Maybe I meant to say sempathise? Would that work?
Either way, the only solution is for you to sympathise and empathise with me and Jeff, sim some BBSW, and that way I can kick his ass, win a title, and I'll then sempathise with all the non title holders.
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Post by White Boy on Nov 11, 2009 11:44:01 GMT -5
Being sympathetic is actually having a growing concern for someone whereas empathetic is understanding of the person's situation. But meh, semantics I guess. Not really, but whatever. Sympathize 1. to be in sympathy or agreement of feeling; share in a feeling (often fol. by with).
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Post by Apollo on Nov 11, 2009 11:44:50 GMT -5
Well sympathy would indicate you have a strong regard or concern for martinez, which I doubt you do. Empathy would mean you can understand where he's coming from, IE "putting yourself in his shoes." Not quite, if sympathizes he could also be in agreement of a feeling. Which is where he was coming from I do believe. Either way sim some BBS wrestling. I want to kick Tiger's ass. Except Tiger took the same stance as Spencer. So the path of least resistance is being empathetic while still stating your stance.
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Post by White Boy on Nov 11, 2009 11:45:02 GMT -5
Tiger, I'm going to beat you eventually in a big match. You're a heel, I'm a good guy/cowboy. Good guys always win.
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Post by Tigertecz on Nov 11, 2009 11:45:34 GMT -5
Jeff you need to learn Chinese for your move, not English definitions. Tecz is still gonna kick Dick Cheese's ass though, from the UK, to the US, all the way to Taiwan.
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Post by White Boy on Nov 11, 2009 11:46:20 GMT -5
Not quite, if sympathizes he could also be in agreement of a feeling. Which is where he was coming from I do believe. Either way sim some BBS wrestling. I want to kick Tiger's ass. Except Tiger took the same stance as Spencer. So the path of least resistance is being empathetic while still stating your stance. I'm going to go back to the point that Tiger's a caring person. So therefore he was probably sympathetic to Martinez's plight.
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Post by Tigertecz on Nov 11, 2009 11:47:01 GMT -5
Tiger, I'm going to beat you eventually in a big match. You're a heel, I'm a good guy/cowboy. Good guys always win. Not unless my character changes to a face all of a sudden. And that ain't true anyway. There's historically been heel title holders... probably more often than not in fact. Either way, STFU and get ready to get a Teczbook!!
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