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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Nov 25, 2009 20:00:23 GMT -5
why do i want to be in a league where I am constantly insulted? you always complain when people attack you with insults but then you go and do the same thing.
God forbid I give my opinion on something and it isn't the same as yours.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Nov 25, 2009 20:01:29 GMT -5
Outlawz is really active. This is such a stupid argument. Martinez acknowledges it will create activity and has no reason to be against it. He's just a prick trying to save face. Outlawz doesn't have a computer right now. It's impossible to be active without a computer. I just went a month without my computer, it was so difficult to keep up. even mark knows outlawz isn't as active as he was
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Post by Funky George! on Nov 25, 2009 20:01:58 GMT -5
why do i want to be in a league where I am constantly insulted? you always complain when people attack you with insults but then you go and do the same thing. God forbid I give my opinion on something and it isn't the same as yours. Shut the fuck up. You were a dick, go ahead and back off and play the victim, but nobody cares if you leave. You've left a million times and you bring nothing when you're back.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Nov 25, 2009 20:03:35 GMT -5
why do i want to be in a league where I am constantly insulted? you always complain when people attack you with insults but then you go and do the same thing. God forbid I give my opinion on something and it isn't the same as yours. Shut the fuck up. You were a dick, go ahead and back off and play the victim, but nobody cares if you leave. You've left a million times and you bring nothing when you're back. Now I'm playing victim? Yes deflect everything I've responded with to your idea with insults and things that happened in the past.
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Post by Funky George! on Nov 25, 2009 20:04:35 GMT -5
Shut the fuck up. You were a dick, go ahead and back off and play the victim, but nobody cares if you leave. You've left a million times and you bring nothing when you're back. Now I'm playing victim? Yes deflect everything I've responded with to your idea with insults and things that happened in the past. Oy.
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Post by White Boy on Nov 25, 2009 20:26:00 GMT -5
I just ignored all Martinez related posts, which was basically the whole thread.
I see no reason why we can't fast forward until '78. We could either put all the relevant guys into the '78 class or Spence could sprinkle them in over the next 5 or so years. The only thing this would do is make some of the shittier 2nd round players people that have actually been heard of instead of scrubs who barely hung around the league. I don't see any harm in that. Might even make for a few more late steals. I just don't really see much downside.
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Post by Pacman on Nov 25, 2009 20:36:38 GMT -5
if we are going to do this make it begin in 2037 when i have my picks again. thanks.
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Post by Spencer on Nov 25, 2009 20:41:47 GMT -5
UOSLR is a sick league. But were more active.
BBS2000 has been going for 23 months. 303,869 posts, 13,203 posts per month.
UOSLR has been going for 10 months. 67,276 posts. 6728 per month.
BBS has been slower, but I think things are fine.
People do need to write more articles.
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Post by Spencer on Nov 25, 2009 20:48:54 GMT -5
Also, while you may know Magic, Bird, and some others, 78 doesnt mean people will know the drafted players more. Most of you werent even born until the mid 80s. Why fast forward to the late 70s?
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Post by DB on Nov 25, 2009 20:52:57 GMT -5
Because we will be in the 90s sooner.
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Post by White Boy on Nov 25, 2009 20:53:21 GMT -5
Also, while you may know Magic, Bird, and some others, 78 doesnt mean people will know the drafted players more. Most of you werent even born until the mid 80s. Why fast forward to the late 70s? The 1976 draft is pretty bad. I just looked it up. Maybe combine 76/77? The 1977 draft is better than I thought. Or just get rid of 1976 and sprinkle the guys in as time goes on? Either that or you're going to have to make shitty players good in order to have a reasonable draft. The only thing that might be cool is if you made some guys who flopped (John Lucas and Scott May come to mind) pretty good. Obviously it's up to you, I'm just throwing some ideas out there.
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Post by Spencer on Nov 25, 2009 20:57:48 GMT -5
Also, while you may know Magic, Bird, and some others, 78 doesnt mean people will know the drafted players more. Most of you werent even born until the mid 80s. Why fast forward to the late 70s? The 1976 draft is pretty bad. I just looked it up. Maybe combine 76/77? The 1977 draft is better than I thought. Or just get rid of 1976 and sprinkle the guys in as time goes on? Either that or you're going to have to make shitty players good in order to have a reasonable draft. The only thing that might be cool is if you made some guys who flopped (John Lucas and Scott May come to mind) pretty good. Obviously it's up to you, I'm just throwing some ideas out there. We need bad drafts too though. I think things are fine. I think activity has to come from you guys. I do lots of things. I mean draft notes have like 10 replies? Draft file has 10 replies? You can write articles to improve your team in season and there were 4 articles? I mean I think you each need to look at yourself and step it up a little. I dont think fast forwarding 4 years makes a difference to be honest.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Nov 25, 2009 20:59:17 GMT -5
Were not even in 1976 yet but I guess you ignored that like you ingnored my posts. My thoughts exactly Spencer thanks
That's what I've been trying to say people need to step it up no matter what I don't get why I'm attacked for saying that
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Nov 25, 2009 21:01:03 GMT -5
And yes that includes me
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Post by Matt on Nov 25, 2009 21:02:52 GMT -5
Don't like this idea, we'll get there soon, no need to jump up a few yrs. I say this even when I'm rebuilding starting next yr. A lot of the gms that support this are the main ones who will benefit from it.
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Post by Spencer on Nov 25, 2009 21:03:18 GMT -5
Were not even in 1976 yet but I guess you ignored that like you ingnored my posts. My thoughts exactly Spencer thanks I just dont see the benefit. I mean if it were fast forward to 82, or 85 thatd make more sense. I wouldnt want to do it because it messes with my vision. I want a league that lasts long term, and puts up a crazy amount of years.00-24 were real and fake players. 25 was retro. We could go from 25(65) to 60(00). That'd be 61 sim years. Thats ridiculous.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Nov 25, 2009 21:06:50 GMT -5
Were not even in 1976 yet but I guess you ignored that like you ingnored my posts. My thoughts exactly Spencer thanks I just dont see the benefit. I mean if it were fast forward to 82, or 85 thatd make more sense. I wouldnt want to do it because it messes with my vision. I want a league that lasts long term, and puts up a crazy amount of years.00-24 were real and fake players. 25 was retro. We could go from 25(65) to 60(00). That'd be 61 sim years. Thats ridiculous. I guess the way I said it people found insulting but I tried to say everything you just did and haberman went on on how I'm some negative asshole just trying to be against him which is hardly the case
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Post by White Boy on Nov 25, 2009 21:09:28 GMT -5
Were not even in 1976 yet but I guess you ignored that like you ingnored my posts. My thoughts exactly Spencer thanks That's what I've been trying to say people need to step it up no matter what I don't get why I'm attacked for saying that It's impossible to have a reasonable conversation with you. We're doing the 1974 draft right now, so in two years that would be the 1976 draft. I'm sorry that it is difficult for you to wrap your brain around that fact. I skipped the posts involving you because you turn every conversation into meaningless nonsense. Spence, in the end it's obviously up to you- I was just voicing my personal opinion. If you have a long-term vision for the league then I'm all for it. To be honest I was just trying to get through some shitty drafts, but I don't think skipping forward will have any tangible effect on activity. I don't understand why everyone flips out every two or three season when activity drops around days 75 to the end of the season, it happens in every league. Talking about boosting activity is not going to do much. The league is plenty active it's just a bit of a down season for most teams (myself included) so there's not a ton to talk about. I'm sure once the end of the season comes around activity will be booming again.
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Post by Spencer on Nov 25, 2009 21:11:06 GMT -5
I just dont see the benefit. I mean if it were fast forward to 82, or 85 thatd make more sense. I wouldnt want to do it because it messes with my vision. I want a league that lasts long term, and puts up a crazy amount of years.00-24 were real and fake players. 25 was retro. We could go from 25(65) to 60(00). That'd be 61 sim years. Thats ridiculous. I guess the way I said it people found insulting but I tried to say everything you just did and haberman went on on how I'm some negative asshole just trying to be against him which is hardly the case You implied Aaron wanted to do this because it benefited him. Of course hes gonna take it poorly.
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Post by Spencer on Nov 25, 2009 21:12:12 GMT -5
Were not even in 1976 yet but I guess you ignored that like you ingnored my posts. My thoughts exactly Spencer thanks That's what I've been trying to say people need to step it up no matter what I don't get why I'm attacked for saying that It's impossible to have a reasonable conversation with you. We're doing the 1974 draft right now, so in two years that would be the 1976 draft. I'm sorry that it is difficult for you to wrap your brain around that fact. I skipped the posts involving you because you turn every conversation into meaningless nonsense. Spence, in the end it's obviously up to you- I was just voicing my personal opinion. If you have a long-term vision for the league then I'm all for it. To be honest I was just trying to get through some shitty drafts, but I don't think skipping forward will have any tangible effect on activity. I don't understand why everyone flips out every two or three season when activity drops around days 75 to the end of the season, it happens in every league. Talking about boosting activity is not going to do much. The league is plenty active it's just a bit of a down season for most teams (myself included) so there's not a ton to talk about. I'm sure once the end of the season comes around activity will be booming again. This league has just been insanely active at certain points. You havent see it like that in your stint here. 13,000 posts a month over 2 years is insane.
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Post by Spencer on Nov 25, 2009 21:14:36 GMT -5
I also like new ideas to create activity, but I wont make major changes that go away from how I see things.
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Post by Funky George! on Nov 25, 2009 21:17:35 GMT -5
Were not even in 1976 yet but I guess you ignored that like you ingnored my posts. My thoughts exactly Spencer thanks I just dont see the benefit. I mean if it were fast forward to 82, or 85 thatd make more sense. I wouldnt want to do it because it messes with my vision. I want a league that lasts long term, and puts up a crazy amount of years.00-24 were real and fake players. 25 was retro. We could go from 25(65) to 60(00). That'd be 61 sim years. Thats ridiculous. I think the vision thing is cool but what's the point in dragging out a slow period? We could do 61 sim years regardless, really, and they'd be more active years if we got to more interesting files. If you don't think it's worth it to fast forward to 78, then in my opinion the best option would be to fast forward to 83, not stay where we are. I'm really not enjoying the league half as much as I used to because it's impossible to talk trade with so many guys, and nobody is ever really posting consistently anymore. Guys don't post on weekends or only post in the sim thread, etc. I think the league will be a lot better when the draft classes are more interesting and I don't see the point in waiting. As far as people who are benefitting the most go, I really don't think that has anything to do with the argument. I have my pick in 35. I suggested 35=78 and I don't even have a pick for the years that would be MJ, Magic, Hakeem, Patrick, Barkley, etc. I just think the league will be better when we get out of the phase of retro that has guys nobody saw play and mostly a lot of no-names.
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Post by SOME BIG ASS TDS on Nov 25, 2009 21:20:14 GMT -5
Were not even in 1976 yet but I guess you ignored that like you ingnored my posts. My thoughts exactly Spencer thanks That's what I've been trying to say people need to step it up no matter what I don't get why I'm attacked for saying that It's impossible to have a reasonable conversation with you. We're doing the 1974 draft right now, so in two years that would be the 1976 draft. I'm sorry that it is difficult for you to wrap your brain around that fact. I skipped the posts involving you because you turn every conversation into meaningless nonsense. Spence, in the end it's obviously up to you- I was just voicing my personal opinion. If you have a long-term vision for the league then I'm all for it. To be honest I was just trying to get through some shitty drafts, but I don't think skipping forward will have any tangible effect on activity. I don't understand why everyone flips out every two or three season when activity drops around days 75 to the end of the season, it happens in every league. Talking about boosting activity is not going to do much. The league is plenty active it's just a bit of a down season for most teams (myself included) so there's not a ton to talk about. I'm sure once the end of the season comes around activity will be booming again. people were talking about skipping all the way to the 80s I'm sorry that you feel the need to excuse my discussion on this over possibly one petty arguement that I purposely acted stupid because you were annoying. Wish they had the ignore button in real life huh?
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Post by Spencer on Nov 25, 2009 21:21:02 GMT -5
Just reading some of the other posts...
Everyone could be more active. No one is at peak activity. This includes me.
Martinez, you need to put more time into your team. You need to challenge yourself to be better.
Aaron, you need to really concentrate on each trade. I think you lose some trades that arent that big of a deal, and then you look at your team and it isn't as good as it could be.
Everyone else, just make small trades. Make your team slightly better each day. Tweak your DC. Make a small trade. Do an article. it all adds up.
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Post by Spencer on Nov 25, 2009 21:22:31 GMT -5
I just dont see the benefit. I mean if it were fast forward to 82, or 85 thatd make more sense. I wouldnt want to do it because it messes with my vision. I want a league that lasts long term, and puts up a crazy amount of years.00-24 were real and fake players. 25 was retro. We could go from 25(65) to 60(00). That'd be 61 sim years. Thats ridiculous. I think the vision thing is cool but what's the point in dragging out a slow period? We could do 61 sim years regardless, really, and they'd be more active years if we got to more interesting files. If you don't think it's worth it to fast forward to 78, then in my opinion the best option would be to fast forward to 83, not stay where we are. I'm really not enjoying the league half as much as I used to because it's impossible to talk trade with so many guys, and nobody is ever really posting consistently anymore. Guys don't post on weekends or only post in the sim thread, etc. I think the league will be a lot better when the draft classes are more interesting and I don't see the point in waiting. As far as people who are benefitting the most go, I really don't think that has anything to do with the argument. I have my pick in 35. I suggested 35=78 and I don't even have a pick for the years that would be MJ, Magic, Hakeem, Patrick, Barkley, etc. I just think the league will be better when we get out of the phase of retro that has guys nobody saw play and mostly a lot of no-names. What is uninteresting about this draft file? Sexy wings? A big time C? Some very good late lotto bigs? I dont get how this is a boring draft class. Also, there have been big time steals in all the retro drafts. Yet people continue to give up their 2nds.
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